Vegan Shoes!

Just resurrecting this thread to mention
Many plastic shoes are not actually vegan as they contain glue.
Vegan shoes should not.
This makes the real vegan shoes a bit pricier.

Lots of cheap shoes aren't leather anyway, sure some that are branded vegan cost more due to the branding but it's also sometimes the glue etc as well as the main material. Lots of people pay over the odds for a parricular brand, not sure why some find it so weird that at times that applies to vegans too.

It is weird on here how critical and ignorant many are about a vegan diet, especially as the thread didn't even mention food! Seemingly someone on a vegan diet must eat a perfectly balanced and nutritious diet whereas many non vegans eat a tonne of crap with little nutrients. Why the higher standards? Defensiveness? Plenty of people don't get their RDAs, a lot of vegans are more aware and make more of an effort tbh.

I don't think running marathons particularly means anything regarding nutrition, DH eats a load of crap food and still manages 2 marathons a month.

For those worried about nutritionally deprived children, DD who is a lifelong vegan runs marathons, weight trains and walks miles. In her vegan trainers, obviously.

A friend has managed to produce a strapping 6ft 4 vegan DC. He doesn't look especially stunted to me.

I haven't eaten meat or dairy for over 50 years. According to a consultant, I have the bones of a 30 year old, and at a recent routine check up for a non-diet related issue, the doctor was asking me for nutritional advice.

It's a case of knowing what you are eating, not shovelling random crap into your mouth. Also exercising appropriately too, of course.

Vegan shoes are improving in quality and range all the time.

I assume they are vegan because not only are they plastic but that the glue and other bits have no animal products. Which means every single part of them will be in landfill forever.

Plastic shoes are fucking horrible things.

@MrsMikeDrop maybe you could compare worldwide milk intake with osteoporosis.
While some scientist worry that low dairy consumption can lead to osteoporosis. Others have noted the correlation between hip fractures (a common measure at population level) and high dairy intake. Hence ongoing research that seems to show, kale may be the older lady's best friend, plus; vit D, pre-biotics, probiotics, gut biome, fibre.......with a general feeling of this being something we haven't got quite right yet.

On going research, totally fascinating, feck all to do with vegan footwear.

If you want to start a thread on how awful you feel a vegan or plant based diet is, go ahead.

Yes, obviously. But some products make it much easier. Same with iron.

No, not always.

Vegan leather is often made from polyurethane, a polymer that can be made to order for any designer’s whim. It can also be made from innovative and sustainable materials such as pineapple leaves, cork, apple peels, other fruit waste

And for those saying that it is environmentally unsound, a lot of vegan "leather" is made from recycled plastic.

I always smile at " Vegan leather"
It's plastic then?!

Wow. This post has gone off at a tangent.

Should we get back to the original question?!

Who says vegan kids don’t grow? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’ll tell my almost 6’ 13 year old
with size 10 feet shall I? What a load of rubbish. Plus we balance a couple of ready made items with fresh sides alongside cooking from scratch every day of the week. I quite often make my own seitan from vital wheat gluten and mostly it’s just fruit, veg, grains and pulses.

oh and I have a great pair of vegan DM’s and just got a bargain pair of vegan super dry trainers for £17.99 delivered in their sale.

Critical thinking is not allowed

Yes. Are you aware that milk is the not the only way to get calcium?

Which essential nutrient is that? Please include peer reviewed citations. Also WTF does your limited scientific knowledge have to do with shoes?

Vegan shoes can be plant based or oil based. They are certainly going to be highly processed, unless we all start wearing espadrilles, UK is a bit damp for that.
Yes companies have jumped on the bandwagon and often charge a premium, but on the other hand it also raises awareness of how things are produced. So really, the usual swings and roundabouts.

I'm sure it happens, just like exploitation happens in anything. Who made the phone that you're reading this on now? How about the chair you're sitting on. I'm sure many worse things happen in the supply chain of most of the products you use everyday. Do you drive a car? Do you have children? What is dumb is basing conclusions about an industry on your Google search that is heavily biased based on other things you search on. It's called critical thinking 🤔

Calcium from plant sources is actually more bioavailable than from dairy, there are no essential amino acids that you can’t get from plant foods, children raised vegan do grow, b12 can be supplemented and plenty of plants contain iron (although at a population level iron is low so it is added to most cereals and bread so that most non-vegan people are actually supplementing with iron even if they are unaware. All flour other than wholemeal must also have calcium, niacin and thiamine added to it).

They seem to have all missed that in their arguing.

I would be exploited as a human if I was denied the essential nutrition that animal sources provide. But that doesn't worry you, right? It's only animals and 'climate' you are concerned about

This

Pluse plastic trainers that are so ubiquitous now are so uncomfortable, and impossible to break in.

Someone told me on here a while back that a lot of cheap plastic shoes can have materials such as glue with animal origins so those marketed as vegan are being clear that this isn't the case.

It’s not dumb at all. It’s an example of cruelty in farming and one of the reasons vegans don’t want wool. Many farmers aren’t deliberately cruel but all farming exploits animals. It’s all abuse imo.

And just because some farmers aren’t deliberately cruel doesn’t mean the footage of animals being kicked and punched and worse, isn’t real I’m afraid. It happens.

I thought vegan shoes were just cheap shoe zone type synthetic material., bit now triple in price as currently fashionable to be vegan

Do they do Gluten Free shoes yet?