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Aggressive school mum

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OhWhatNowYouFish · 31/01/2023 14:17

Our two sons, both KS2 are usually friends but sometimes fall out. Yesterday they fell out and pushed each other and ended up with a graze each. I spoke to my son (again) saying that since he only falls out with this boy, it might be better to just play with his other friends instead, and move on from this friendship. The other mum is very angry, doesn't acknowledge her son's responsibility in any of this, and every time it happens sends me angry texts. She started texting me last night about it and most of today, including trying to get mutual friends involved.

When she text, I said that I think they're equally to blame, but she went on and on and in the end I said that we're just repeatng ourselves and I have nothing further to add. She, however, continued to send angry texts last night and on and off today, which I haven't acknowledged. I'm due to pick my son up soon and am dreading her marching across the playground causing an argument. She's naturally quite loud and aggressive whereas I find any confrontation absolutely mortifying. I don't know what to do.

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Hellybelly84 · 31/01/2023 15:59

Adding to above- keep a record of everything so far and show the school. Email as well as speaking to them in person, as then its all on their records. Make sure its seen by the Head and your child’s teacher.

I would send a message to the parent clearly stating not to contact you again in any form (phone or in the playground) and you will be informing the school of their behaviour. Then block the number.

sylv165 · 31/01/2023 15:58

Oh god I am having the same thing with my 11 year old dd. Had a minor falling out with a friend yesterday, both girls were as bad as each other as far as I can tell, both sulked for a couple of hours but were best of friends again by the end of school. Total non-event, but culminated in passive aggressive mother texting the class WhatsApp to let everyone know that her daughter had been severely bullied by another pupil in school, and that she would be speaking to the teacher as she wouldn’t want any other child to have to go through what her daughter was subjected to 😱😱😱. Teacher has phoned and said she spoke to both girls and from her perspective it was just a normal disagreement and all resolved, but this mum is clearly a loon and won’t let it drop. Dd is at after-school club today but I’ll have to see the mum tomorrow and have no idea whether to avoid her, act normal or give her hell about publicly accusing my dd of bullying. I think probably shutting it down is best - girls will be girls, teacher has sorted it, come to me directly in future if there is a problem, etc. But I feel really awkward so you have my sympathies OP!!

Hellybelly84 · 31/01/2023 15:55

I would call the school, tell them a full account and if she is using threatening behaviour towards you, I would be inclined to ask the school to make her wait outside the gates and her child be brought out to her. No one should be worried about picking up their children from school. I would also be asking the school to do their best to keep the boys apart (difficult but they can encourage mixing with others).

Steakandquinoa · 31/01/2023 15:54

You are behaving like an adult, she is not. Keep your cool, especially in front to the children

Blessedwithsunshine · 31/01/2023 15:48

I hope it goes okay op. I would be keeping my child a million miles away from a family that thought text bombardment is an appropriate response to any school issue.

Koicrap · 31/01/2023 15:43

The fact that the kids had a scrap is a non-issue from the fact that as they don’t get on, they are best just avoiding each other.

But the fact that a parent is bombarding you with texts (harassment) and you feel anxious about a possible altercation at the school gates is something the school should be made aware of.

Cigarettesaftersex1 · 31/01/2023 15:43

AliceOlive · 31/01/2023 15:29

I wonder what it is she wants? She sounds like anything could set her off but I would probably ask her one time. "What is it that you want?"

This.

What exactly does she want? What is she saying in her message?

Blessedwithsunshine · 31/01/2023 15:37

It doesn’t matter what she says you have to look calm, relaxed and neutral.

I would simply say: ‘ kids will be kids, if you are concerned speak to Ms (teacher)’ and leave it there, if she persists, continue with the same answer.

’ I agree with you they are not getting along at the moment, children usually work things out in the end’

’ You seem worried, if might be best to bring up with the school’

I would just say very neutral answers. Even if your child is the problem it’s always better to raise it with the school. Don’t apologise, feel you have to explain. Just bright and breezy and quietly block the psycho. Any mother sending multiple texts for days needs to have their anxiety levels checked.

MeridianB · 31/01/2023 15:33

MissyB1 · 31/01/2023 14:25

You need to inform the school. And completely stop engaging with this mum. Block her from your phone.

This. It's why block function was invented.

billy1966 · 31/01/2023 15:32

I would print off the conversation and email the school with a copy attached and ask that the bogs are kept apart due to the mothers aggression. Add that you will be involving the police if it continues.

Make it formal.

Block her number and refuse to engage.

She is unhinged.

Should she approach you, contact 101 for advice.

Children can fall out, but this is neither normal nor acceptable.

Far better to meet it head on rather than avoiding and it escalating.

AliceOlive · 31/01/2023 15:29

I wonder what it is she wants? She sounds like anything could set her off but I would probably ask her one time. "What is it that you want?"

HardStareBear · 31/01/2023 15:27

Survey99 · 31/01/2023 14:35

A simple, "neither of them should be pushing/hitting, I've told ds this and I've asked the school to keep an eye on them, feel free to do that same", should be enough. Then just keep repeating to her to take it up with the school as you can't do anything else because you are not there when it happens.

I think that this is the best type of response to give.
Some people just like to cause aggro and it's best to just disengage.

Fladdermus · 31/01/2023 15:27

I think schools have enough to deal with already without being dragged into policing parental interactions.

ThreeLittleDots · 31/01/2023 15:15

If she comes up to you, say politely but firmly "please stop harassing me".

KillingLoneliness · 31/01/2023 15:09

I would inform the school or their class teacher of the situation, I’d even show them the text messages to help explain the situation.
I’d then inform the mum that I’ve shared my concerns with the school and explained the situation and the best plan of action as agreed by all is for the boys to play separately.
If she carries on after that I’d block her number and if she keeps harassing you I’d take it further.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 31/01/2023 15:09

I don't think it is a nonissue.
She is harassing you.
I think you should screenshot her texts and forward to the school so that its on record. Tell them you've spoken to your son but worry her silly attitude is doing nothing to calm the situation and will rub off on her son. The school needs to know and needs to resolve it in the classroom - so that you can say, the school is dealing with it.
We had one of these at our school, the kind of person who likes to pick a fight. I kept out of her way as much as possible.

The situation will calm down when she finds something new to complain about,

SummerInSun · 31/01/2023 15:07

Survey99 · 31/01/2023 14:35

A simple, "neither of them should be pushing/hitting, I've told ds this and I've asked the school to keep an eye on them, feel free to do that same", should be enough. Then just keep repeating to her to take it up with the school as you can't do anything else because you are not there when it happens.

I like this response.

If she comes up to you in the schoolyard and raises it, say that. Try and be standing with your other mum friends - and DON'T talk about this to them, at least not there, chat about something else. If she does accost you, the other mums will think she is a looney. She will be embarrassing herself, not you.

Itisbetter · 31/01/2023 15:05

Let your children see how you would like them to behave

NeedToChangeName · 31/01/2023 15:02

Could you ask a friend to walk to / from school with you, for moral support?

And don't engage with the other Mum

Ting20161987 · 31/01/2023 15:01

Been exactly where you are now. My child was the victim, being repeatedly picked on. I calmly spoke with said parent about their child, no hard feelings from my side. Was twisted to my daughter lying and everything being our fault, from how we handled it, to how it was affecting my daughter. Constant passive aggressive messages. I told her I was no longer engaging with her and blocked her. I avoid her at all costs, don't speak to her, do not engage with her and life is so much more peaceful. She is a nasty piece of work

OhWhatNowYouFish · 31/01/2023 14:59

I feel so silly informing the school about such a non issue of their fall out and with regards to the endless texts, there's nothing the school could do.

I do usually stand with my friends while I wait, but I think they'd just stand there in shock if she came up to me and had a go at me. If be so embarrassed. I'm not sure they'd actively defend me because most people don't want to get involved and escalate things. I like the idea of being on the phone but I don't want to have to ignore my friends every drop off and pick up for the sake of imaginary phone conversations.

I told her last night that I had nothing more to add to the conversation and felt we were just repeating ourselves. I then stopped engaging, but it didn't stop her texting and then texting other friends.

Both kids say the other one started it, and to be honest, I'm reluctant to apologise just to pacify her. This isn't going to be the last time they argue, and I don't want to have to apologise her every time our kids fall out.

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Yesthatismychildsigh · 31/01/2023 14:50

Geneticsbunny · 31/01/2023 14:38

Would you be up for inviting her and her son over after school one day or maybe meeting at a park? Just thinking that if you can both see them playing then firstly it will put both your minds at rest and secondly, you can help them sort their differences out together.

Why would that be a good idea? Who wants to socialise with someone like that?

OhWhatNowYouFish · 31/01/2023 14:49

IhearyouClemFandango · 31/01/2023 14:24

I had similar with a school mum (complicated by my working there as well) and I ended up politely telling her that I found our interactions stressful and unnecessary so I was blocking her on all channels. I then told school so they were aware. She was furious, and has tried various things to get at me since but life is far more peaceful!

I'm terrified of doing anything that will make her even more angry!

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BigMandysBookClub · 31/01/2023 14:45

If she approaches you just say you can't stop to chat as you've got to get back home and you will speak when you have time later this week.

If she persists just keep reiterating it or say you wont discuss if shes raising her voice as there are children about and walk away.

Or just ring someone and be on the phone at the time.

Ohdearnotagain76 · 31/01/2023 14:43

Tell her that since the lads don't seem to be getting on it's best they avoid each other, no need to give a reason. If she raises her voice tell her you can see where the aggressiveness comes from.