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Been caught speeding

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speedy49 · 31/01/2023 01:00

Help sorry I know this isn't AIBU but traffic

Tonight literally 15 mins ago so 00:40 ish I was driving home about a 10 minute journey on a road with a 60mph limit.
I was doing about 80. Yes I know I was in the wrong please dont bash me.
Then I got to my turning, turned in, and realise there was a police car behind me pretty much the whole time.
Now I'm freaking out because I know I was speeding and I know they were behind me. But they could have pulled me over and didn't, didn't even flash me?
I don't have any points, never paid any fine, never taken a speed awareness course.
Has anyone ever had a similar experience, if so did it end in a ticket or not?
Very worried, please be kind I know I was in the wrong

OP posts:
DixonD · 31/01/2023 18:37

speedy49 · 31/01/2023 01:24

Of course I knew there was a car behind me, but when it's dark you can't tell what colour it is because of the headlights facing you. It was only when we got to nearish home with lots of streetlights I saw it was yellow and blue.

And I do not believe that any of you have never ever broken the speed limit

By 20mph?!! You not only broke the speed limit for that road, you broke the NATIONAL speed limit. You deserve a ticket. And a ban.

DixonD · 31/01/2023 18:35

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 31/01/2023 01:03

And I was going 90 in a 60 that night I was followed 😬

Well done 👍🏻 🙄

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 31/01/2023 16:30

Why do so many women freak out about this? If you get a ticket you get a ticket. Deal with it when it happens. You don’t need to flagellate yourself in front of the mumsnet jury as well.

WestBridgewater · 31/01/2023 16:18

However my ds has always assured me that only traffic officers can deal with traffic offences - despite what you say I honestly don't speed so I've never actually out that theory to the test!

www.itv.com/news/anglia/2020-08-06/top-cop-strikes-again-as-he-stops-another-speeding-motorist

our chief constable is known for pulling over the occasional speeding motorist and I wouldn’t say he’d be classed as a traffic officer.

GoodChat · 31/01/2023 16:11

However my ds has always assured me that only traffic officers can deal with traffic offences

That's clearly not true

itsgettingweird · 31/01/2023 16:10

I can't condone what you did and you know it was stupid and dangerous.

However my ds has always assured me that only traffic officers can deal with traffic offences - despite what you say I honestly don't speed so I've never actually out that theory to the test!

You you may or may not be ok. You'll have to wait and see.

But hopefully whatever the outcome the anxiety you have over being caught will stop you taking the risks in future?

GoodChat · 31/01/2023 14:26

Oblomov22 · 31/01/2023 14:25

Do they? I'd like it if they just automatically adjusted, the driving, from 30 to 40, down to 20, back to 30. I want that.

Here you go Smile www.autotrader.co.uk/content/news/mandatory-speed-limiters-on-uk-cars-from-2022

Oblomov22 · 31/01/2023 14:25

Do they? I'd like it if they just automatically adjusted, the driving, from 30 to 40, down to 20, back to 30. I want that.

GoodChat · 31/01/2023 14:20

Oblomov22 · 31/01/2023 14:11

I have Speed limit on steering wheel, but better still it being automatic is what I'd like.

All new cars have to have speed limiters now I think

Sugarplumfairy65 · 31/01/2023 14:13

GooseberryCinnamonYogurt · 31/01/2023 07:03

Of course I knew there was a car behind me, but when it's dark you can't tell what colour it is because of the headlights facing you. It was only when we got to nearish home with lots of streetlights I saw it was yellow and blue.

And I do not believe that any of you have never ever broken the speed limit^
^
Exactly OP - there are a lot of righteous drivers, who I guess have never driven 40 in a 30 for example.

I never have. My older brother was killed by a speeding driver when I was a child.
I've been driving for 40 years now. Also passed an advanced driving test.
Never had a speeding ticket, never had an accident.
Spent many years driving all over the country for work. It really isn't difficult

Oblomov22 · 31/01/2023 14:11

I have Speed limit on steering wheel, but better still it being automatic is what I'd like.

acrimoniousone · 31/01/2023 14:05

3kidswouldfinishanyoneoff · 31/01/2023 07:08

No comments about the police who were driving behind you doing the same speed.

If course there'll be posters on to say they're allowed, and of course they were trying to keep up with you blah d blah.

Every single driver on this thread has been guilty of speeding at one time or another.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but are you suggesting some of the only people actually allowed to drive at 80 in a 60, who have training, experience and constant supervision, should not do when they have been presented with an opportunity to identify a persistent offender?

OP may well get away with her offence but police can and do prosecute speeding based on video evidence collected by cars even technically on another job. Forces now welcome the upload of dashcam footage showing dangerous driving and again prosecute if it's good enough to clearly identify registration numbers.

There's a good summary here.

"A total of 32,370 pieces of footage were received by 24 police forces that accept video evidence of driving offences from members of the public, double the number recorded in 2018 (15,159).

Data from the RAC’s freedom of information request also shows that a quarter of these (25 per cent – 8148) went on to result in prosecutions.

Police forces, according to the RAC’s study, are making it increasingly easy for drivers and other road users to submit camera footage of unsuspecting alleged rule-breakers, with all of Britain’s 44 forces now accepting dash cam video, and the vast majority online via their websites."

"...revealed that more than half of the videos uploaded to its safety portal have resulted in further police action. Favoured by police for saving an average of eight hours per case, Nextbase says its platform had saved these forces at least 170,000 hours.

The footage submitted to police related to the following offences: dangerous driving, careless driving/driving without due care and attention, driving too close to cyclists, contravening red traffic lights, contravening double white lines, contravening ‘no entry’ signs, illegal use of a handheld mobile phone and evidence of vehicles apparently without MOTs.

RAC road safety spokesman Simon Williams said: “Even before the decline in the number of roads police enforcing traffic offences, law-abiding drivers were often frustrated that there was never an officer there to deal with infringements they witnessed.”

“As so many drivers and cyclists are now using dash cams and helmet cameras every road user needs to be very conscious that any of their actions that aren’t in accordance with the law could end up with the police. Some will inevitably find this out the hard way while others will hopefully become increasingly mindful of it.”

Times are changing for smug speeders, close passers and other shitty drivers with GoPro helping rebalance things for vulnerable road users. There are people on YouTube making a good living out of getting people prosecuted, with only a helmet camera.

HappyAsASandboy · 31/01/2023 13:40

If you are issued a speeding ticket, it is unlikely you'll be offered a course instead of points/fine.

I was recently caught speeding (and have been offered a course). There is a table on the back of the initial letter that says the police can offer a course if;

You haven't done a course in the last 3 years
You have provided your name and drivers licence number when requested
You have time to complete the course within 4 months of the offence
and
The offending speed was no more than;
31 in a 20mph zone
42 in a 30mph zone
53 in a 40mph zone
64 in a 50mph zone
75 in a 60mph zone
86 in a 70mph zone

So at the speed you were going, a ticket could only lead to points plus fine (or court, but I think that's unlikely).

lanthanum · 31/01/2023 12:34

They sometimes follow people who are speeding as a precaution - in case it turns out they're also drunk and/or going to continue speeding in a more built-up area. A colleague got followed home, and they asked him "do you know what speed you were doing?", and he admitted that he knew he'd been doing 80 on the straight stretch between villages. They just told him not to do it again.

I was a passenger in a car that got stopped for driving without lights. We'd been entirely on well-lit roads and it wasn't completely dark, so he'd just forgotten the lights. They weren't interested in ticketing him - they just had enough conversation with him to establish that he was completely sober and had just forgotten the lights.

junglejane66 · 31/01/2023 12:32

The speedo doesnt have to be calibrated. The officers evidence will rely on two pieces of evidence corroberatating each other regarding the offence of excess speed.
1-Two officers in the car who both estimate your speed (no Speedo check required)
2-one officer and a Speedo (will need to check accuracy of Speedo after, and this should be in their evidence)
They dont need to stop you to report you.

TheGoogleMum · 31/01/2023 12:22

I do speed a little sometimes... but if it was too dark to see it was a police car behind you it was probably too dark to be driving 20mph over the speed limit tbh

AngeloMysterioso · 31/01/2023 12:16

Tonight literally 15 mins ago so 00:40 ish I was driving home about a 10 minute journey on a road with a 60mph limit.

I was doing about 80. Yes I know I was in the wrong please dont bash me.

Why the fuck shouldn’t we bash you? That’s ridiculously irresponsible, people like you shouldn’t be on the road.

viques · 31/01/2023 11:57

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 31/01/2023 05:31

If you are lucky you will get the option of a speed awareness course where you will learn the impact of going over the speed limit and how just a few miles slower can mean the difference between life and death for you and others and hopefully you will slow down and drive more reasonably.

Otherwise you might get points on your licence or even court if you were going more than a certain percentage over the speed limit.

Another day though, if your speeding killed someone, it could be prison so being followed by a police car was not too bad an option today.

Why did you need to get home so quickly?

Won’t get the option of a course, the discrepancy is too much.

Frabbits · 31/01/2023 11:54

Vaselining · 31/01/2023 11:42

We have common ground for the 20mph restrictions. Sensible in some small roads, but an utter piss take on main roads. Where we disagree is motorways which I think are perfectly safe with 80mph minimum.

It's a myth that driving at 20mph results in more emissions than at 30.

ReneBumsWombats · 31/01/2023 11:54

The site sometimes ignores your paragraphs, and sometimes makes them really clear.

Icedlatteplease · 31/01/2023 11:51

Not sure what happened to the formatting there

Icedlatteplease · 31/01/2023 11:47

Squamata · 31/01/2023 11:06

@Icedlatteplease I've never been in a major car accident but I used to work processing accident claims. I followed lots of accidents through the whole process and it was grim. Eg you'd see the photos and reports of the accident, then get medical and psych follow up reports at regular intervals and see how long it takes to recover anything like normality.

Car insurance premiums shoot through the roof if you have a conviction for a motor offence, obviously as your accident was not your fault it didn't impact your premiums.

Speed can be the cause of an accident, it reduces the amount of time you have to respond to a hazard like a dog running into the road, a car approaching etc. It also goes hand in hand with other reckless behaviours so people who speed might also use their phone behind the wheel, drink drive, not get their car serviced and MOT'd and insured etc. Exceeding the speed limit can be a criminal offence in itself or I think it can be an aggravating factor in something like careless driving (so you'd get a tougher sentence).

I worked in a senior role loss recovery and third party claims with friends in PI and accounting (so handling the actual pay outs). I don't normally mention it on these threads because most people dont know what that means. I spent a lot of time explaining to policyholders why the other person speeding was completely irrelevant given the lack of injuries/they pulled out in front of the speeding vehicle.

Speed may exacibate injuries, it does not cause accidents.

Just to clarify when we say that speed exacerbated the injuries it doesn't necessarily mean speeding either. In my own car accident the third party was diving within the speed limit possibly even as low as 20mph actually in my case, but because I was stationary, speed exacerbated the injuries. In their case as they were young and hadn't been driving long, it probably raised their insurance prohibitively. someone who had been driving years without significant incident with protected no claims bonus, it will raise their premium a bit, but not the end of the world. (else saga insurance would be out of business). Most people will be somewhere between the two.

If you hit a pedestrian at 29 mph you may be within the speed limit but the difference in speed between 20 and 29 mph is likely to make a material difference to the person you hit. Hitting a pedestrian at Anything above 50, 10 mph difference isn't likely to increase the pedestrians chances. Tbf 20 mph in a lorry isn't likely to be great either...

Given how many people speed, I think you can say those that show reckless behaviour are more likely to speed not the reverse. Correlation does not mean causation.

Yes dangerous driving may include or be aggravated by speed but speeding alone does not equate todangerous driving. Why we have both convictionconviction

A speeding ticket really won't add much to your insurance. A conviction for dangerous absolutely will

Technonan · 31/01/2023 11:47

speedy49 · 31/01/2023 01:50

With respect, this thread isn't about how bad of a crime (legally or morally) speeding is. It was about whether others have had a similar experience and what the outcome was.

Thanks to those who have actually replied with something helpful 🙏🏼

This thread is about speeding. If you don't like what people say about this, don't post. And don't speed. I hope you do get sent on a speed awareness course becasue that might make you realsie how dangerous it is.

Vaselining · 31/01/2023 11:42

lieselotte · 31/01/2023 08:31

No it isn't. I don't agree with 20 limits in urban areas though, because it causes more pollution than doing 30.

In fact I would say that we need the limit to be 60 on motorways and dual carriageways when it's very wet or foggy. Some people are sensible and drive to the conditions, but many are not. I'd quite like average speed cameras on all motorways.

We have common ground for the 20mph restrictions. Sensible in some small roads, but an utter piss take on main roads. Where we disagree is motorways which I think are perfectly safe with 80mph minimum.

Itsnotalternateuniverses · 31/01/2023 11:30

I can't believe the OP has the cheek telling people to "be kind" after driving recklessly. The fact the OP is bothered more about what might happen to them speaks volumes.

I was in a car accident five years ago as a result of someone speeding. I now have a permanent disability. I lost my job, my career and had to give up my masters. If the person driving the car had not been a selfish idiot, I would not have to live in constant pain. It's pretty much destroyed my relationship with my partner and I am reliant on others. Yet drivers come on here and expect sympathy for breaking the law. Reckless idiots should have the book thrown at them.

Before anyone starts arguing. I was a passenger in a taxi. The other driver fled and has never been caught. I am still fighting for compensation.

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