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eczemahelp · 13/01/2023 23:41

out of nowhere my skin turned to shit. I’ve never had skin problems before, but basically as soon as I became an adult it got awful. Severe eczema, psoriasis and dermatitis. I go to dermatology at the hospital for it and have been using steroids which is helping a lot.

my hands are particularly bad. I’ll post a photo of them below mid-flare in case anyone has had similar. I always wear gloves so they’re not exposed to cold or dryness, I moisturise with heavy duty moisturiser and emollient, I never use any soaps or products on my skin- but my hands ares still horrendous and I genuinely don’t know what to do! Just posting in case anyone had has similar to me and has any advice? I’ve tried e45, dip to see, doublebase, Vaseline, sudocreme, working hands, nivea, petroleum jelly, childs farm, barrier cream for chaffed skin, body shop, lush products- nothing helps it apart from strong steroids, and even they don’t take it away 100%. I’m at a loss with what to do and I’m fed up of my hands being agony! When it flares up I can barely move them* *let alone write, work, bend fingers. My hands are basically out of use!

(please nobody suggest dietary changes, eliminating food groups and all the usuals as if that will magically fix it- I’ve tried it all to no avail)

OP posts:
Urchin84 · 14/01/2023 17:30

Thunderbird skin

CloseYourMouthLynn · 14/01/2023 16:31

That looks so painful, poor you. On prescription I got a fantastic cream called epimax, you can also use it as a soap substitute. There is a barrier ointment called hydromol which will help stop the cracks getting infected. I would try and put that on overnight to help soothe them. And a good steroid cream. Also a daily antihistamine will help with itching. Hope it gets better.

Lorraine265 · 14/01/2023 16:25

Brulidine Cream

Barbbarkbark · 14/01/2023 16:05

That was to @MrsPelligrinoPetrichor 😳

Barbbarkbark · 14/01/2023 16:04

I don’t use it all now but it was prescribed to me as a moisturiser by the GP. Hopefully they’re not still doing that!!

Orangejellybaby · 14/01/2023 15:38

That looks painful op. I know you've mentioned loads of cream that you tried but I just wanted to ask if you have tried the Moo Goo range? My husband gets flare ups of psoriasis on his scalp and face and the Moo goo shampoo and moisturisers really help to clear that up. I'm in Ireland and they are stocked in most chemists here but they can be ordered online if they are not sold local to you.

Augustone · 14/01/2023 15:30

A colleague had something which looked very similar. She was given a whole host of creams to try, steroids to take, gloves to wear etc but the thing which cleared it up was regular UV treatment at the hospital. She told me it was like a sunbed she popped her hands under, she would put her shades on, plug in a podcast and just sit there. It went on for quite a few weeks but seemed to work. Good luck, hope you get sorted soon.

rsfgp · 14/01/2023 15:21

The only thing that works for me when my hands get like this is cetraben. Mines due to OCD though rather than anything underlying. GP can prescribe it you.

Throwncrumbs · 14/01/2023 11:16

AnnieFarmer · 14/01/2023 00:24

My advise would be to stop putting anything at all on your skin except the steroid. Use as little as possible product whilst bathing (I use salt in the bath). I have had eczema all my life but it’s been better in the last few years. Occasionally my skin will suddenly react to products I’ve used for months, I then have to cut everything out for a few weeks (even moisturiser).

i agree don’t use anything except the steroid cream until you have had the allergy tests. My hands were like this and I found that I was allergic to many of the things that even the hospital advised to use, you may even need a stronger steroid for a while, even washing my hands in just water caused a flair because the skin is so fragile. While it looks really sore it’s how it makes you feel too, irritable and stressed, which affects it even more. Ask for a dermatology referral if you haven’t got one already. Also you may need a steroid cream with an antibiotic included, Fucibet I think is what I had at one stage.

ChristmasFluff · 14/01/2023 09:18

Another recommendation for Aveeno - and also for plain old oats. Mix them up with water in 2 bowls and put your hands in them. It's SO soothing.

Turtletotem · 14/01/2023 08:56

It looks so sore, my daughter gets this too. She's tried everything and had allergy testing etc. She's now got it under control by using omega 3 5,000 mg a day she took at first. Now takes 3,000. She also quit steroids. It made it worse for a while, then it started to clear up. I think sometimes the steroids make it worse.

Notsoyummymummy2 · 14/01/2023 08:50

Have you been offered light therapy? If not, I’m fairly certain that will help you.

If it’s a long waiting list, I would go to a IVA/IVB safe subbed - wear black clothing to cover up, something over your face so nothing is exposed apart from your hands, Sunblock as well on your face/neck.

Light therapy is the only thing that worked for my horrendous eczema and I went a sunbed (NOT FOR TANNING!) and it helped. It also helped that I could go on my own time after work. Xxx

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 14/01/2023 08:39

Barbbarkbark · 14/01/2023 08:16

Also came on to recommend Aveeno. I find it so much better than aqueous cream/diprobase etc… obviously for once this flare up is sorted. I’d also push for a consultant appointment. GPs can’t prescribe anything strong enough to get it under control quickly and it drags on and on not getting better. Once you’ve been prescribed something that works by the consultant you can get a repeat prescription from your GP for subsequent flare ups. I also agree with the holiday idea for your skin and to make you feel better!! Good luck OP, I know it’s miserable.

You probably know but for anyone who doesn't Aqueous cream should be used as a soap and rinsed off not as a moisturiser.

Hoppinggreen · 14/01/2023 08:20

Annique Rescue Cream
Helped my DDs eczema when even steroid creams didn’t. My mil got it and I was pretty skeptical as we had tried plenty of non medical creams but this stuff was amazing. I have told several people about it irl and on here and it worked for them too (when I had feedback)

Barbbarkbark · 14/01/2023 08:16

Also came on to recommend Aveeno. I find it so much better than aqueous cream/diprobase etc… obviously for once this flare up is sorted. I’d also push for a consultant appointment. GPs can’t prescribe anything strong enough to get it under control quickly and it drags on and on not getting better. Once you’ve been prescribed something that works by the consultant you can get a repeat prescription from your GP for subsequent flare ups. I also agree with the holiday idea for your skin and to make you feel better!! Good luck OP, I know it’s miserable.

Hallmark1234 · 14/01/2023 08:08

Try taking Aloe Vera, both topical on your hands and as a drink

RambamThankyouMam · 14/01/2023 07:59

If you're going to use a trigger warning (which you shouldn't, as the majority of us aren't suffering complex PTSD) you need to specify what the trigger is.

CleopatrasBeautifulNose · 14/01/2023 07:59

I had bad excema like that for about 3 years or so. It's not a cure but it helped me to wear soft cotton gloves all the time. Seemed to help reduce the environmental triggers (whatever they were) but helped by making me more comfortable. Not a cure but a coping suggestion. Mine went away when my stress levels went down, so that's my ultimate trigger but once triggered environmental factors exacerbate. Cotton gloves helped me. I did like a bit Victorian lady wearing gloves at all times (I had several pairs and washed them daily like you would underwear) but when your hands are that bad people look at your hands anyway.

ItsNotReallyChaos · 14/01/2023 07:51

I have a long experience of eczema and psoriasis.

My first step would be to stop using emollients, especially those based on aqueous cream/Vaseline. Especially in thick layers it just stops the skin breathing.

My skin used to get like this as a child when my mum had been instructed to bath me then smother me in emulsifying ointment directly after the bath. It just seems to trap the problem in and make it sweat and become inflamed and then possibly infected.

I now never apply any cream unless my skin is dry. Aveeno skin relief (which is different to the basic Aveeno which I'd previously dismissed) has been amazing for me.

I know you don't want anyone to mention diet but despite blood tests, skin prick tests and exclusion diets as a child and teenager, but when I realised I'm sensitive to soya and particularly soya lecithin, and to palm oil, it was a game changer for me skin so my advice would be to persevere with a food diary.

I also wonder, given how severe this is, whether you've been offered light treatment or immunosuppressants by your dermatologist?

Flowersonthewall123 · 14/01/2023 07:50

My OH had light therpy for their awful skin and it definitely helps. Stress and lack of sleep is also another trigger for them.

Glsd you’re getting allergy testing that’s what I was going to suggest. If they can do air borne allergens and food intolerance plus allergens it should cover all bases.

TortillaChipAddict · 14/01/2023 07:50

Oh that looks so sore. I used to have eczema like this on my hands, then I stopped drinking for other reasons and it went away. I’m a professional musician and it was making my job very difficult, it was like a miracle when it went. If I drink again it comes back. When I have it under control I swear by O’Keefe’s working hands, I was on strong steroids and emollients and this works much better for some reason. I hope you get to the bottom of it. My triggers are stress, latex and alcohol.

Mintakan · 14/01/2023 07:30

This is my area of expertise. This is 100% food related and the only long term, safe and effective treatment is dietary. Topical treatments only manage the symptoms not the root cause.

In my clinic (not in UK) we do intensive dietary management. No gluten, dairy, soy and eggs. We’ve had patients put autoimmune into remission using carnivore diet (I said it was intensive!).

I keep my own autoimmune disease in remission by eating this way. Practically all vegetables make it flare horribly.

LittleLegoWoman · 14/01/2023 07:24

Francisca459 · 14/01/2023 01:20

Op this message is for you - Lanolin is in a lot of industrially produced creams - it is from slaughtered sheep - their sebaceous glands :( It contains pesticide residues. Please be careful about putting anything like that on it (although I'm sure you've probably already tried it) I have to agree with a PP who suggested buying an aloe vera plant - the gel is in the squishy leaves. Very soothing. Good luck OP

You don’t have to kill the sheep to get the lanolin. Wool is covered in it. When sheep are shorn the wool is cleaned and you can purify the lanolin that comes off it.

Dramaalpacas · 14/01/2023 07:12

I have a little experience of this (but not a professional)

never ever get soap or hand gel on your hands. Use an emollient to wash them. Use gloves when washing up. How do you shampoo your hair? Can you get some kind of sealed rubber gloves to avoid getting them soapy?

in between flare ups moisturise like mad to stop the flare ups returning. Could be over 10 times a day. Experiment with different moisturisers- I found zeroderm effective but greasy and then aproderm was just as effective but much nicer to use.

have you heard of weekend therapy? So you use the steroids twice a week even if not in flare up (consult dr before doing this)

additionally check with your dermatologist that you are correctly applying the steroids. It’s very common that people are worried about over-using them so don’t put on enough to be effective.

I guess you already know most of this but just in case helpful!

Mollymalone123 · 14/01/2023 06:38

Looks so sore-I had similar on hands and feet when I had chemo and the only thing that gave me relief was udder cream-there are a couple if brands but I use underlying smooth.