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Control freak FIL

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wordywitch · 27/12/2022 10:28

My FIL has always been a difficult man to be around. He’s very controlling about his house and environment, with things needing to be to his exact requirements or he freaks out. He can’t stand noise or mess and dislikes change. For that reason he and my MIL (who is lovely) rarely come to our house, we always go to theirs. FIL doesn’t even like going out to eat very often as he’s a fussy eater and likes things that he’s used to.

He’s a good man and generally kind, but he is very boring to talk to. Never asks anyone about themselves, just drones on for ages about whatever interests him (traffic, the weather, politics, or stuff he did years ago, mainly). My teenage children find him hard to relate to and during our visits their interactions with him are limited. We used to live nearby so would come round for the afternoon and in short bursts but we recently moved further away so when we went for Christmas we stayed over for two nights. It didn’t go particularly well.

FIL has this bizarre insistence on directing me and my husband into and out of the driveway when we arrive and leave, despite us having cameras and sensors for reversing and being perfectly competent drivers. I’ve tried to overlook it and just grit my teeth at being infantilised but on Christmas Eve when we arrived he also insisted on going with me to the shop to ‘direct’ me even though I’ve been to it many times over the years and knew precisely where it was and how to get there. He not only ‘directed’ me but told me how to drive the whole way there, telling me to look both ways when pulling out of side roads and telling me to indicate, where to park, and so on. It was weird.

The rest of the visit, he was constantly irritated at all of us if we so much as put a plate in the wrong place or got our own drink from the fridge as he has an ‘order’ to the drinks that are to be removed to his specification of how chilled they are. He must have said ‘No, not there!’ Or ‘No, not like that!’ a thousand times over two days. By Boxing Day morning I’d had enough of tiptoeing around him and insisted we left after breakfast.

AIBU to think that my FIL has extreme anxiety and control issues that need to be addressed and not just swept under the carpet as ‘the way he is’? My MIL and DH are aware he’s difficult and try to minimise the impact on me and our DC but frankly I’m tired of his behaviour going unchallenged and no one accepting that this is not normal and we (and he) shouldn’t be living like this.

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ExtraOnions · 27/12/2022 10:55

wordywitch · 27/12/2022 10:46

It bothers my DH too but he’s resigned to it. I just feel sorry for FIL, he doesn’t have to live like that if he got the appropriate support. It can’t be a very nice way to be, constantly anxious. But it’s probably true that he’s never going to change.

Maybe he’s quite content, and doesn’t need you to come along and try to change him, into your “normal” way of doing things.

As the parent of an ASD teen, I do find Ableism very tiresome.

wordywitch · 27/12/2022 10:46

Blossomtoes · 27/12/2022 10:40

You can’t teach an old dog new tricks @wordywitch. It seems like you’re the only one really bothered by his behaviour.

It bothers my DH too but he’s resigned to it. I just feel sorry for FIL, he doesn’t have to live like that if he got the appropriate support. It can’t be a very nice way to be, constantly anxious. But it’s probably true that he’s never going to change.

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wordywitch · 27/12/2022 10:43

ExtraOnions · 27/12/2022 10:38

Has he been tested for ASD/OCD?

His behaviour might not be something he has much control over, so confronting anyone about it would be pretty pointless.

Also, your “normal” may not be their “normal” - all families and family dynamics are different

No, though I suspect he has one or both of those things.

I have gone with the flow and made allowances for the 24 years I’ve known him but his behaviour seemed excessive even for him this time. Maybe the stress of Christmas and so on. At any rate, I don’t think we’ll stay over again and will instead drive home or stay in a hotel even if it’s late.

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Blossomtoes · 27/12/2022 10:40

You can’t teach an old dog new tricks @wordywitch. It seems like you’re the only one really bothered by his behaviour.

wordywitch · 27/12/2022 10:39

*did up his seatbelt, not sod up 😄

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ExtraOnions · 27/12/2022 10:38

Has he been tested for ASD/OCD?

His behaviour might not be something he has much control over, so confronting anyone about it would be pretty pointless.

Also, your “normal” may not be their “normal” - all families and family dynamics are different

wordywitch · 27/12/2022 10:38

i didn’t intend to let him come with me to the shop. He came outside with me to ‘direct’ me out as always, and after I’d backed out he approached the car and I rolled the window down thinking he wanted to tell me to get something else and he just got in and sod up his seatbelt before I could say anything. At that point it was easier to just go with it then try to force him out of the car, it was Christmas Eve and I didn’t want to make things weird the moment we arrived. In future I won’t allow it though.

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Strawberrysundaeonamonday · 27/12/2022 10:37

The behaviours sound harmless to me. Maybe annoying, but just quirks of his nature. I’ve got real toxic family, I would rather a relative like yours.

RegularNameChangerVersion21 · 27/12/2022 10:37

Is he neurodiverse OP? Whatever the cause of his behaviour yes it does sound like it's driven by anxiety and a need for control and it must be irritating and difficult to deal with. It does sound like something he is likely to always struggle with though so I'm not sure what 'confronting him' or 'challenging' the behaviour is likely to achieve.

It sounds like having people in his space is difficult for him and not particularly pleasant for them either. Could you stay in a hotel when you visit to make it more manageable for everyone? I would definitely keep visits short too as much as distance allows. If he's a kind man but struggles with anxiety I would be inclined to accomodate him to a certain extent but obviously DH and MiL should be able to acknowledge that his behaviour is patholigical and creates stress for other people, your and your DC feelings should be taken into account too.

Weath · 27/12/2022 10:34

I just feel like it's their business if he does anything about it, and not yours. My FIL has some of these behaviours, but it would never be up to me and my DH if we challenged it. It's up to FIL and MIL if they want to do anything about it. About him going out with you in the car.....just say no.

Brefugee · 27/12/2022 10:33

He sounds annoying and i wouldn't have let him in the car with me knowing this. Or i would have stopped and told him to get out and walk home. (but then, i am very assertive and have no patience for people like this in my space. In their space, they can do what they like)

So it's MIL who has to live with him and presumably has made her peace with it. Your choice is to either never visit again or visit and grit your teeth (maybe step outside now and again to vent to yourself). When you are there just let him do everything. You want a drink? he can get it. You're clearing the table? Pile everything up and let him wash it in order. You'Re washing/drying up? Pile it on the counter and let him put it away. He wants to go in the car with you to the shops? "no, i will go alone".

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