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Tipping etiquette

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Justnosing · 21/11/2022 21:13

I’ll keep it neutral so that it’s unbiased, currently having a discussion with DP

A) One of us thinks tipping is absolutely customary, regardless of the actual service (unless downright offensively bad)

B) One of us thinks tipping shouldn’t be expected, and service charges should be removed to add your own amount should you wish.

Also discussion on percentages. One of us thinks 10-12% is adequate. One of us thinks 15-20%

Both agree tipping etiquette is a nuisance and wish there were clearer social rules. We are in the UK.

Who would you side with? A or B

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Inthesamesinkingboat · 30/04/2023 11:14

I’d say tipping in a restaurant is required if the service is any more than adequate (I’d never tip for terrible). Adequate I’d tip 10%, have been known if I like the staff to tip 25-30% because why not and it can really make someone’s day

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 30/04/2023 11:11

Tipping is cringe.

”You’re poor, have some extra money.”

Plenty of people work minimum wage in ‘non tip culture’ jobs.

And it’s built into the price - it’s why restaurants charge more than takeaways. The cost of the service is built into the cost of the meal.

HoppingPavlova · 30/04/2023 11:02

I’m in Australia but essentially same as UK in this regard (I.e not aligned with the US system whereby it’s meant to be covered by wages).

If I go to a ‘family restaurant’ (don’t these days as kids are grown), then 10% for standard service. 15% for good service.

We generally eat at decent places now the kids are grown. The level of service is expected to be so much better so 20% for standard service, 30% for good service and up to 50% for outstanding service, but that obviously covers wait staff, kitchen staff, mixology/bar staff.

One of our friends always gives a generous cash tip up front advising that there will be a very generous tip at the end if we receive good service, and that works as well 😁.

No499 · 22/11/2022 00:42

A...I'm aim for at least 15%

feeona123 · 22/11/2022 00:24

B

86Emily · 22/11/2022 00:00

B. I don't agree with tipping. There is a minimum wage, why should waiters get more than other minimum wage staff such as carers?

Spiderboy · 21/11/2022 23:35

I wouldn’t encourage tipping in England when we have minimum wage.

Coffeetableposhbooks · 21/11/2022 23:32

A, and 10 percent for me.

I really hate it when folks try to argue that if they don’t tip then staff will get more. It’s ludicrous and fails to take account of economics, which is restaurants, taxi drivers, hairdressers, bars etc would just put the base price up to pay that increased wage. You as a punter pay the same either way. With tipping it’s to incentivise and reward good service.

Shouldershoddy · 21/11/2022 23:32

I only tip with cash to ensure the server and colleagues actually get the tip and always at 15% .

Orangesatsuma · 21/11/2022 23:30

A

CuteCillian · 21/11/2022 23:29

If you are referring to restaurants, A and around 15%.
Hairdresser 12%.

MarmiteCoriander · 21/11/2022 23:25

I would err to say B, but you haven't said which sector you are referring to, nor if you are referring to the UK OP??? Hospitality staff in a bar/restaurant, your hair dresser or nail salon, taxi/uber driver, bus driver, train driver, the carer or nurse caring for your relative, The person stacking shelves in a shop, where you had your car MOT done, the place you buy petrol, the road worker you see holder a STOP sign, the bin person collecting your bins weekly???

Some of the above are on low wages/MW, yet I can bet that you don't tip them also!!! Why tip any of them when they are paid a wage for doing their job. I have given nice coffee, biscuits, chocolates on occasions when I've felt service was above the norm. I absolutely hate the additional of a 'discretional' service charge in restaurants. From friends in hospitality, this is NOT shared out to those actually serving! I had a recent incident where the restaurant refused to let us leave unless we paid the 'discretionary' charge!

1001Daffodils · 21/11/2022 23:14

B wages are for a job. Tips are for a job very well done.

And I don't do %. I tip a flat rate that I would have been happy with as a waitress. The difficulty of serving me doesn't increase just because I order a fillet vs a sirloin.

We aren't America, wages should include all costs to serve.

UWhatNow · 21/11/2022 23:04

We shouldn’t have to tip anything. Tips are bullshit or a small gift to your paperlad/girl. Grown adults shouldn’t need to be tipped where there is a national minimum wage. And restaurants are overpriced as it is.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/11/2022 23:02

A but I've moved around the world and don't like to be the cheap Brit.

And 10% is shit service, 15% is good and 20% is 'my kid puked and you've said to leave and you will clean it up' service.

jcyclops · 21/11/2022 22:59

Somebody mentioned that there is no need to tip as employees receive at least minimum wage, and others have mentioned it encourages employers to pay low wages.

They might be interested in the system in the USA. In New York City for example, the minimum wage is $15/hour, but in food service it is $10 with a $5 tip allowance. This means that a work who receives $6/hour tips receives $10 from the employer and thus gets $16. A worker who receives $4/hour tips receives $11 from the employer and thus gets $15. You could also look at this as the first $5/hour tips actually goes to the employer, not the employee!

FluffyWorm · 21/11/2022 22:20

B

ShesThunderstorms · 21/11/2022 22:18

B for me. I'm not a tipper.

Eleusa · 21/11/2022 22:14

A although I'd far rather we had the French system and the cost of paying waiting staff appropriately was incorporated into the cost of the meal. We don't, so I tip.

missmollygreen · 21/11/2022 22:12

B

Beautifulsunflowers · 21/11/2022 22:11

After having spent a few days in USA last week I’m glad we don’t have a 20% ish expected tip however I’ve got 2 boys who have worked in the restaurant/bar industry as young lads and the minimum wage for them as 15/16/17 yr olds is fairly poor and so the tips really helped bump their money up - in the places they’ve worked it’s shared equally between all staff so even the washer upper gets a fair share.
I usually give 10% unless service is poor then I’ll leave nothing!

VaulterTech · 21/11/2022 22:11

B

YouLookinSusBro · 21/11/2022 22:05

B. I'd only tip for very good service. However it's not really an issue for me as I hardly ever go anywhere that gives the potential to tip!

Toddlerteaplease · 21/11/2022 21:54

B) I never tip anything.

rookiemere · 21/11/2022 21:34

Leaning more towards A, but in UK tipping should be 10% or a bit less, as wait staff on at least minimum wage. No need for crazy American percentages.