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Relationship age gaps

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Flutterbybudget · 13/11/2022 03:40

Not sure if it’s really an AIBU but do they matter? And what age gap is/ isn’t acceptable to you? Does it matter which partner is older?
So, for example, a 17 year old (F) dating a 27 year old (M)?. Or a 20 year old (F) dating a 29 (M)? Or a 30 (M) and a 47 (F)?
And does it matter how they know each other? Big age gap, but family friend? Was in a position of authority at “some” point - such as teacher/ boss/ instructor of some sort? Or not an age gap, but still in a position of authority? Such as boss or doctor?

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ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 21:45

ilyx · 13/11/2022 21:40

A woman's pregnancy might be considered high risk if she:

is age 17 or younger
is age 35 or older
was underweight or overweight before becoming pregnant
is pregnant with twins, triplets, or other multiples
has high blood pressure, diabetes, depression, or another health problem
had problems with a previous pregnancy, including premature labor or having a child with a genetic problem or birth defect

kidshealth.org/en/parents/high-risk.html

THERE YOU GO. A 30 year old pregnancy is NOT classed as high risk, a teenage pregnancy is. If you are under 18 and pregnant you’re automatically classed as a high risk pregnancy to doctors and midwives and need extra monitoring. I’m sorry I have to teach you basic biology.

it’s why most (normal) men are not attracted to teenagers. How many other links do I have to send you about this? I thought everyone knew how high risk teenage pregnancy is. The pro choice movement talks about this all the time and how it’s especially dangerous to force young people into pregnancy. Embarrassing how uneducated you are yet you talk about it with such confidence.

Ah now you’re changing the goalposts after being shown to be a bit of a fool.

No one has mentioned high risk except you.

At 30 your fertility is in decline - fact.

You are also the only one to thing being in your prime = healthy pregnancy - a very weird view, old fashioned too but then again that aligns with your very outdated views on sex in general.

Also sorry to again have to correct you but teen pregnancies aren’t higher risk due to age, they’re higher risk due to age and likelihood of external issues. You’d understand that if you actually read the data behind what you’re quoting.

If a 17 year old took care of themselves the same way a pregnant 25 year old did, they’d be at no higher risk, teen pregnancies are higher risk due to that being less likely and them needing more antenatal support.

The fact you don’t understand that is sad, but alas you’ve already shown limited understanding on this thread so am not surprised

ilyx · 13/11/2022 21:40

A woman's pregnancy might be considered high risk if she:

is age 17 or younger
is age 35 or older
was underweight or overweight before becoming pregnant
is pregnant with twins, triplets, or other multiples
has high blood pressure, diabetes, depression, or another health problem
had problems with a previous pregnancy, including premature labor or having a child with a genetic problem or birth defect

kidshealth.org/en/parents/high-risk.html

THERE YOU GO. A 30 year old pregnancy is NOT classed as high risk, a teenage pregnancy is. If you are under 18 and pregnant you’re automatically classed as a high risk pregnancy to doctors and midwives and need extra monitoring. I’m sorry I have to teach you basic biology.

it’s why most (normal) men are not attracted to teenagers. How many other links do I have to send you about this? I thought everyone knew how high risk teenage pregnancy is. The pro choice movement talks about this all the time and how it’s especially dangerous to force young people into pregnancy. Embarrassing how uneducated you are yet you talk about it with such confidence.

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 21:33

ilyx · 13/11/2022 21:29

www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/teenage-pregnancy-effects#other-factors

“According to the National Institutes of HealthTrusted Source, there’s a higher risk of the following in teenage pregnancy:

preeclampsia
anemia
premature delivery
delivering at low birth weight”

Women in their early twenties have healthy pregnancies, teen pregnancies come with a plethora of health risks. You really need to educate yourself. You sound simple minded. I thought everyone knew how risky teen pregnancies are?

Did you even read that link?

teen parents had poorer health outcomes due to external factors, not their bodies not being able to cope. Teenage parents were more likely to engage in riskier sexual behaviour thus at higher risks of STDs, less likely to be taking care of themselves during pregnancy resulting in poor birth outcomes

It is specifically explained on that page, it’s a shame you are unable to understand that.

Tsort · 13/11/2022 21:32

ilyx · 13/11/2022 21:29

www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/teenage-pregnancy-effects#other-factors

“According to the National Institutes of HealthTrusted Source, there’s a higher risk of the following in teenage pregnancy:

preeclampsia
anemia
premature delivery
delivering at low birth weight”

Women in their early twenties have healthy pregnancies, teen pregnancies come with a plethora of health risks. You really need to educate yourself. You sound simple minded. I thought everyone knew how risky teen pregnancies are?

With the talk of 16 year old boys and ‘holes’, this person is either a troll or someone rationalising historic sexual and emotional abuse by what sounds like multiple older men. I’d honestly just leave it.

ilyx · 13/11/2022 21:29

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 21:19

Yeah that’s 100% incorrect.

At 30 you’re starting the decline in terms of fertility.

Also who said anything about babies in terms of biology, it’s a basic fact people decrease in attractiveness with age, thus on the whole someone will be more attractive at 16 than when they’re 30, when 30 they’re likely to be more attractive compared to their 60 year old self

www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/teenage-pregnancy-effects#other-factors

“According to the National Institutes of HealthTrusted Source, there’s a higher risk of the following in teenage pregnancy:

preeclampsia
anemia
premature delivery
delivering at low birth weight”

Women in their early twenties have healthy pregnancies, teen pregnancies come with a plethora of health risks. You really need to educate yourself. You sound simple minded. I thought everyone knew how risky teen pregnancies are?

Tsort · 13/11/2022 21:28

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 21:02

I’m still attractive, but definitely in my prime earlier. As most women will be, biology and all that.

Many teens these days look a lot better than in the past too, with far more make up etc. not a good thing but factual.

Im guessing that’s also a yes to being a teenager in the 80’s

Nope. I was a teenager in the noughties.

Most women are not ‘in their prime’, biological or otherwise, at 16. If you were, that’s unfortunate. I’m sorry you peaked in your mid teens.

None of which changes the fact that adult men who have sex with 16 year olds are predators.

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 21:19

ilyx · 13/11/2022 21:16

You really have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to biology. A 16 year old is an extremely risky age to get pregnant medically, much more so than a 30 year old, so a 30 year old is much more suitable to have a child.

Yeah that’s 100% incorrect.

At 30 you’re starting the decline in terms of fertility.

Also who said anything about babies in terms of biology, it’s a basic fact people decrease in attractiveness with age, thus on the whole someone will be more attractive at 16 than when they’re 30, when 30 they’re likely to be more attractive compared to their 60 year old self

ilyx · 13/11/2022 21:16

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 21:02

I’m still attractive, but definitely in my prime earlier. As most women will be, biology and all that.

Many teens these days look a lot better than in the past too, with far more make up etc. not a good thing but factual.

Im guessing that’s also a yes to being a teenager in the 80’s

You really have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to biology. A 16 year old is an extremely risky age to get pregnant medically, much more so than a 30 year old, so a 30 year old is much more suitable to have a child.

MangyInseam · 13/11/2022 21:10

I don't think you can really make a judgement just based on an age gap. Yes, it might be that an older person wants to control or take advantage But there are plenty of younger people (and I think mainly we are talking about men here) who are also jerks who want to control a partner.

I don't see romantic relationships as necessarily about being the same as a close in age friendship. I think they have more to do with having similar values, a compatible temperament, sexual attraction, and being in a similar place in terms of lifestyle - both ready to settle down, or just interested in fun casual dating, whatever. Those things aren't especially age dependent.

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 21:03

ilyx · 13/11/2022 20:54

Not everyone is degenerate, most people don’t sleep about with every Tom Dick and Harry they just end up in a relationship and sleep with that one person. It sounds like a lot of older men used you for sex and you’re trying to justify it.

Degenerate, well hello Mary Whitehouse

Sex is great, it’s fun and feels fab when it’s not a 16 year old boy not sure which hole to go for first.

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 21:02

Tsort · 13/11/2022 20:45

By that logic, the people who are unattractive adults are the one who romanticise age gap relationships and are strongly pro teenagers dating older men. So, are you currently washed up and hideous? Does nobody want you now that the predators have moved on? That’s really unfortunate.

I had the predators approach when I was a teenager. Every teenage girl did. It’s not some honour bequeathed upon a chosen few. The fact that you think it is is genuinely sad. Doesn’t change the fact that 16 isn’t an attractive age in the grand old trajectory of life. When I was 16, I saw them as unattractive peers. I see 16 year olds now and I see children.

I’m not the one with the distorted view. You need therapy.

I’m still attractive, but definitely in my prime earlier. As most women will be, biology and all that.

Many teens these days look a lot better than in the past too, with far more make up etc. not a good thing but factual.

Im guessing that’s also a yes to being a teenager in the 80’s

Boooooot · 13/11/2022 20:59

ilyx · 13/11/2022 20:56

I’m “gross” because I don’t sleep around? Yeah ok. Pretty sure it’s the other way around. You catch literal diseases from sleeping around.

The 50’s called 🤣🤣

MrsMigginsCat · 13/11/2022 20:58

I met my DH at 20 and he was 28. Thirty years later and we're still together. It doesn't work for everyone but it's worked for us. However an 8 year age gap when one party is a teenager is just wrong.

ilyx · 13/11/2022 20:56

Boooooot · 13/11/2022 20:55

What a fucking gross and old fashioned view of sex. Jesus.

I’m “gross” because I don’t sleep around? Yeah ok. Pretty sure it’s the other way around. You catch literal diseases from sleeping around.

ilyx · 13/11/2022 20:55

DuggeeFanclub · 13/11/2022 20:30

I met my husband when I was 25 and he was 38. We were both the same age mentally 😂 11 years on and we’re still happily married. It’s a personal thing, doesn’t work for everyone. My parents were the same age as each other, got married young, had years in an unhappy marriage culminating in a divorce.

That isn’t the age gap we are talking about on this thread 🤦‍♀️ no body cares what a 25 year old does

Boooooot · 13/11/2022 20:55

ilyx · 13/11/2022 20:54

Not everyone is degenerate, most people don’t sleep about with every Tom Dick and Harry they just end up in a relationship and sleep with that one person. It sounds like a lot of older men used you for sex and you’re trying to justify it.

What a fucking gross and old fashioned view of sex. Jesus.

ilyx · 13/11/2022 20:54

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 20:25

But it goes both ways

I’d have not touched a 16 year old when I was 16, I enjoy sex and most boys under 18 are a bit shit from personal experience. So would actively pursue older men so I’d not end up unsatisfied.

Not everyone is degenerate, most people don’t sleep about with every Tom Dick and Harry they just end up in a relationship and sleep with that one person. It sounds like a lot of older men used you for sex and you’re trying to justify it.

Thinkling · 13/11/2022 20:47

Yeah. I went out with a 28 yr old man and his fiancé when I was 16. I went to to their wedding - I was still at school. Even worse, we met on the internet and I went for my first visit without telling anybody.

It was bad enough then, but worse after they split and he and I carried on when I was 18. Then I got semi-famous and he threatened to sell naked pictures of me to the press. That was fun.

I totally thought I was mature but wasn’t at all. It took me a long time to accept that I was groomed, that the relationship was abusive, and that the whole thing was a mess.

My partner now is 7 years older, and we’ve been together since I was 23. We have kids together, a house, and it’s all good. I don’t think it’s about the age gap so much as the age the youngest person is when it starts.

I also left home at 17, and was financially independent from 19, but the difference between 16 and 23 for me was huge. I definitely remember looking back at 16 yr olds when I was 28 and being utterly repulsed by the whole idea.

Tsort · 13/11/2022 20:45

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 20:33

That’s probably what is distorting your view on this

It’s no surprise that on these types of threads it’s always those who weren’t attractive as a teen who have the strongest opinions on the matter.

And who still has braces at 16!

Did you go to secondary school in the 80’s or something?

By that logic, the people who are unattractive adults are the one who romanticise age gap relationships and are strongly pro teenagers dating older men. So, are you currently washed up and hideous? Does nobody want you now that the predators have moved on? That’s really unfortunate.

I had the predators approach when I was a teenager. Every teenage girl did. It’s not some honour bequeathed upon a chosen few. The fact that you think it is is genuinely sad. Doesn’t change the fact that 16 isn’t an attractive age in the grand old trajectory of life. When I was 16, I saw them as unattractive peers. I see 16 year olds now and I see children.

I’m not the one with the distorted view. You need therapy.

CoilBeGone · 13/11/2022 20:39

I know of someone whose daughter has just turned 18 and has been going out with a 27 year old for a while. The daughter has a lot of health issues and looks a lot younger than she is, is much smaller in height than my 11 year old and still has a very child-like body. I do find that a bit weird, although oddly the mum is completely fine/encouraging of it.

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 20:33

Tsort · 13/11/2022 20:31

I looked like a spotty bespectacled child at 16. As did most people. I was hot af at 30.

Nobody other than gross old men (and the occasional woman) romanticises a period where lots of people still have braces.

That’s probably what is distorting your view on this

It’s no surprise that on these types of threads it’s always those who weren’t attractive as a teen who have the strongest opinions on the matter.

And who still has braces at 16!

Did you go to secondary school in the 80’s or something?

Tsort · 13/11/2022 20:31

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 20:24

Do you not think you looked better at 16 than 30?

I looked like a spotty bespectacled child at 16. As did most people. I was hot af at 30.

Nobody other than gross old men (and the occasional woman) romanticises a period where lots of people still have braces.

DuggeeFanclub · 13/11/2022 20:30

I met my husband when I was 25 and he was 38. We were both the same age mentally 😂 11 years on and we’re still happily married. It’s a personal thing, doesn’t work for everyone. My parents were the same age as each other, got married young, had years in an unhappy marriage culminating in a divorce.

JudyGemstone · 13/11/2022 20:29

Clickta · 13/11/2022 07:26

I did have a friend that I distanced myself from when she very much set out to start seeing an 18 year old when she was 31.

She had a string of failed relationships and she told me she could 'mold' the perfect partner. He wasn't a mature 18 year old either, came across more like 16.

She'd have him doing jobs around the house and driving her and her young daughter everywhere, she said he'd do anything she told him as he loved the sex. He still lived at home with parents.

I found out later the relationship lasted about a year and the lad went off the rails with a drug issue, his family moved him away from her in the end. Awful.

Is your friends name Maggie May?

RandomMusings7 · 13/11/2022 20:27

ApplePieFry · 13/11/2022 20:24

Do you not think you looked better at 16 than 30?

Attractiveness is not all physical. We're not just pieces of meat.

I'm 31 and I'm horrified at the idea of having sex with an 18 year old boy. Because that's what they are. Boys. I'm into men, not children.

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