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Bonfire night!

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purfectpuss · 05/11/2022 22:47

AIBU to think that complaining about the noise is ridiculous. My facebook feed is full of people moaning:

"It's too loud, it's affecting my elderly mum and her health condition"
"I can't hear the telly..."
"the cat's hiding"
"how can people afford fireworks- we're in a cost of living crisis?"

Really...?

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Marigoldandivy · 06/11/2022 10:24

I’ve noticed fewer and fewer fireworks over the past few years. Maybe too expensive now, or just that I have moved out of London? Where I live now only one family appeared to be marking Diwali with fireworks and only one or two last night. Fine by me, I think the public displays are much more appealing and they are limited in duration.

Discovereads · 06/11/2022 10:01

Iamtheblacksheep · 06/11/2022 07:21

I couldn’t agree more. My DH is a veteran. He loves fireworks.

Same here. Also veterans and also enjoy 5th of Nov fireworks 😜

purfectpuss · 06/11/2022 09:33

So anyone who partakes in a firework display and also donates to the Royal British Legion is a hypocrite?

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Iamtheblacksheep · 06/11/2022 07:21

I couldn’t agree more. My DH is a veteran. He loves fireworks.

PurBal · 06/11/2022 07:14

I hate fireworks (I was hit by one as a child) but YANBU.
I used to live in a country where private displays were illegal (literally 3 days a year when there were official displays and they were epic, National Day, Deepavali, NYE) and whilst I think that’s extreme I would support greater regulation eg not every day for 2 weeks either side of Guy Fawkes.

CherryogDog · 06/11/2022 07:13

I'm all for advertised organised displays where you can plan any animal management, silent fireworks even better.
The dogs I have now aren't bothered, but we used to have an ex army dog who served with the bomb disposal unit, he was absolutely terrified. Which sort of knocks the "you can train animals to get used to loud bangs" argument.
My horses on the other hand have to be sedated. If I know when the displays are I would know when to do that, not continually dose them for days at a time.
I've had a rocket fired at my horse when I've been riding in broad daylight, my friends rabbit died from shock last night, in the news a dog got scared by a random firework and jumped into the sea. The owner tried to save him and drowned, the dog never found.
At school, a long time ago, a stupid prick lit a firework and shoved it down a girl's jumper. She was severely injured.

yogiil · 06/11/2022 07:07

It's this for me. It's been going on every night since Diwali here and every night I've been just waiting for the baby to wake up as the fireworks get closer and closer. It'd be okay if it were just one night but it's been weeks of it and I'm tired of being on edge the whole time :(

Do you live somewhere very quiet normally? I'm in Wandsworth not far from Tooting & obviously Diwali is big for some in the local community but we genuinely don't really hear them. The only noise pollution that annoys me is police helicopters.

yogiil · 06/11/2022 07:00

There's your 3 hours of constant bangs.

3 hours of constant bangs? who on earth can afford that?

yogiil · 06/11/2022 06:59

It didn’t used to be loads of people having their own huge fireworks display, you went to a public display or you had a bonfire, couple of tiny rockets a Catherine wheel and some sparklers.

When I was a kid, there would be a lot more free public displays. I used to go to 3 across 2 different weekends. Now my closest is Battersea. There used to be more neighbourly displays when I was a kid too.

GreenWheat · 06/11/2022 06:55

The best thing about this coming Monday is that the pointless moaning about Halloween and Bonfire Night stops. Even if it was limited to the organised public displays the complainers say they want, people would still be moaning about those. I guess tomorrow they switch to grousing about Christmas though.....

AloysiusBear · 06/11/2022 06:50

I sometimes wonder where people live who talk about weeks of fireworks going off randomly, peoplr setting off boxes in garden etc. I live in the south east, i heard one lot for about 20 mins around diwali, 2 lots of 15 mins on 5th november and thats it. None after 9pm, all easily drowned out by normal conversation indoors.

I dont know anyone who had anything other than sparklers at home, everyone goes to a local display.

We used to live in north london and i didnt notice it especially there either. Where i grew up (south west) few celebrate diwali and there'd just be one big display around 5th.

tabulahrasa · 06/11/2022 06:45

It’s not traditional though, not how it happens now.

It didn’t used to be loads of people having their own huge fireworks display, you went to a public display or you had a bonfire, couple of tiny rockets a Catherine wheel and some sparklers.

pompomdaisy · 06/11/2022 06:29

The fireworks went on until 1.30am last night. It's the first night I've really been sickened by them. Next year we are taking our old dog away somewhere remote.

runninglikewater · 06/11/2022 06:24

WhiteFire · 06/11/2022 00:13

The local organised displays are far louder and longer than my little box of fireworks in the back garden.

But along with your 'little box' there's the houses around you and the next street, then the big display, then some kids twatting around.

There's your 3 hours of constant bangs.

runninglikewater · 06/11/2022 06:20

purfectpuss · 05/11/2022 23:27

It's one night (in theory) and I understand how annoying it is when it's going on for weeks, but complaining about it actually on the 5th of November...?

Do people really think think that a traditional festival shouldn't take place anymore because it triggers war veterans, or other similar arguments?

Yes.
There's lots of ways to mitigate the impact of bonfire night.
Silent fireworks.
No private sales of fireworks, just organized and licensed displays.

We can cope with an hour or so a couple of times a year but there's been random bangs nightly since Diwali.

Last night the last ones we heard were after midnight and woke us all up.

You have to be pretty thick not to understand why lots of people hate them.

goodmorningsunny · 06/11/2022 05:31

XenoBitch · 05/11/2022 23:03

It would be ok if it was just one night. The fireworks started here last night, and they will go on until tomorrow night too.

It's this for me. It's been going on every night since Diwali here and every night I've been just waiting for the baby to wake up as the fireworks get closer and closer. It'd be okay if it were just one night but it's been weeks of it and I'm tired of being on edge the whole time :(

hattie43 · 06/11/2022 05:30

purfectpuss · 05/11/2022 23:27

It's one night (in theory) and I understand how annoying it is when it's going on for weeks, but complaining about it actually on the 5th of November...?

Do people really think think that a traditional festival shouldn't take place anymore because it triggers war veterans, or other similar arguments?

Yes actually . People and pets in real distress should outweigh someone else's enjoyment when that enjoyment is getting out of hand . I never bothered about fireworks until I took on a rescue dog in abject terror of them . The problem is around my way they go on for two weeks or so between Divali and bonfire night . No more are they pops and fizzes some of them sound like bombs going off and rapid gunfire .
Fireworks should be for organised displays only who give dates out not sold to randoms for their gardens . We had 3 hours of it tonight then managed to sleep and woken again at 2.15am by more .
Times move on and these displays should be quiet fireworks or laser light displays .

pastabakeonaplate · 06/11/2022 05:24

They should have a restriction on the loud ones.

pastabakeonaplate · 06/11/2022 05:23

Nat6999 · 05/11/2022 23:50

I hate bonfire night & fireworks, always have from being a child, it must be an autism thing.

I hate them too but haven't got a diagnosis of autism.

Junipercrumble · 06/11/2022 05:21

purfectpuss · 05/11/2022 23:27

It's one night (in theory) and I understand how annoying it is when it's going on for weeks, but complaining about it actually on the 5th of November...?

Do people really think think that a traditional festival shouldn't take place anymore because it triggers war veterans, or other similar arguments?

I take it you dont wear a poppy or claim to respect war veterans on the 11th?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 06/11/2022 01:07

TBH I absolutely hate firework displays. It’s always bitterly cold, muddy, the fireworks are too loud (I have very sensitive hearing) and looking up makes me feel dizzy (yes I’m a wimp Grin). If I stay at home the dogs on the street go absolutely mental. And our council spends £35,000 on the firework display every year (local paper do an FOI each year and everyone goes nuts on social media). I just think in a time where many people will either starve to death or freeze to death this winter, better community initiatives could take place for that money. Especially when there are so many alternatives with local fire displays that benefit the villages they take place in.

Maverickess · 06/11/2022 00:48

purfectpuss · 05/11/2022 23:27

It's one night (in theory) and I understand how annoying it is when it's going on for weeks, but complaining about it actually on the 5th of November...?

Do people really think think that a traditional festival shouldn't take place anymore because it triggers war veterans, or other similar arguments?

In the last 12 years I've had my dog, this year is the only one I can remember that it has only been one night and not multiple.
I think that's the issue that it's not just one night and therefore causes many more problems because of that.

And there's no real need for the bangs, they're what cause the majority of the issues around people and animals and there are silent ones - they still produce the lights but no boom, boom, boom endlessly - what does the boom add really, or lack of it remove from watching a display of lights in the sky?

I also don't understand the tradition thing, we've come to view many things that are traditional as not good things to do, fireworks do cause suffering and injury to animals, wild and domestic, and people say 'but it's traditional' and 'some people enjoy them', you could argue the same point for bloodsports they're also traditional, some people enjoy them and they cause suffering and injury to animals - yet they're widely condemned.

EnormousBulkhead · 06/11/2022 00:24

Yanbu. It's one of the duller SM traditions. Think it's the combination of unimaginative virtue signalling and content free whinging that winds me up about these tossers. Well that and the fact that they go on all bladdy winter. Plus it's pointless. Not one single person is going to stop buying fireworks because some other tedious cunt craps on about their boring dog.

yogiil · 06/11/2022 00:19

its ANNOYING not mention TERRIFYING for animals.

My cats & dogs have never been bothered. Lots of people walking their dogs this evening. Why does it cause panic to some pets but others are indifferent?

yogiil · 06/11/2022 00:16

The firework threads always confuse me, I assume a lot depends where you live? We have had fireworks going off all night in the neighbouring surrounds, but you don't really hear that much & they don't stand out much over the other noise of traffic, etc. & people who use fireworks at home use them correctly, not throwing them at houses.