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Bonfire night!

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purfectpuss · 05/11/2022 22:47

AIBU to think that complaining about the noise is ridiculous. My facebook feed is full of people moaning:

"It's too loud, it's affecting my elderly mum and her health condition"
"I can't hear the telly..."
"the cat's hiding"
"how can people afford fireworks- we're in a cost of living crisis?"

Really...?

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Pamcakey · 05/11/2023 14:12

I like fireworks.
I don’t like spending 4 hours in the cold and rain to make sure my horses don’t kill themselves when I had direct neighbours on 3 sides of me doing big displays (not joking - one went on for 2 and a half hours and they were /big/ fireworks) and didn’t as much as give me a heads up.

Basic consideration…not to mention it’s actually illegal to have them so close to livestock.

cardibach · 05/11/2023 13:59

yogiil · 06/11/2022 07:00

There's your 3 hours of constant bangs.

3 hours of constant bangs? who on earth can afford that?

Read the rest of the post you quote from. It’s not one person affording it. It’s several people nearby plus an official display which adds up to that.

tpxqi · 05/11/2023 13:41

You are not wrong. Some pathetic saddos are never happier than when calling for stuff to be banned. They think the world should stop for their dog. And the latest one is that everyone has PTSD from explosions in the past.

SplendidUtterly · 05/11/2023 13:24

It's been going on all week here. Tonight will be the grand finale for one of my neighbours who is a firework enthusiast.
Last night i thought artillery shells were raining down on the house and garden.
I can't wait to see what he has planned for this evening, probably preparing the missiles as i type this 😐

weeddigger · 05/11/2023 13:07

I get the complaints about bonfire night and firework noise and its negative impact on people and animals even though I kind of enjoy them myself.

What I have noticed in recent years is that after our big community firework display got scrapped in favour of a larger Halloween celebration the amount of fireworks going off locally this time of year every night is way higher. Lots of family perhaps buying them in for their kids, local community groups, football teams and so on as well as lots of teenagers letting them off well into the night.

If it were up to me fireworks would be banned from public sale and there would be a public display of no more than an hour in length that everyone could watch then that would be it.

haribosmarties · 05/11/2023 13:02

We had people whinging about our lovely town square tree being to big so much last year that the council actually took it down and replaced it with this sad looking scrawny thing.
Apparently people in wheelchairs didn't have enough space because the tree was taking up too much of the square.
I'm a carer for my disabled mum who is in a wheelchair and we went to see the tree when it was first put up.. she thought it was lovely, one of the most impressive Christmas trees she had ever seen.. and there was plenty of space for me to manoeuvre her chair around it even with the crowds...
But it got removed. And I bet 90% or the whingers were not wheelchair users.
Some people just love to complain about anything and everything

zingally · 05/11/2023 13:02

I was expecting a lot of fireworks last night, but honestly hardly heard any. Maybe it'll all happen tonight.

Unusual though, as bonfire "night" tends to be a week-long event round my area!

haribosmarties · 05/11/2023 12:58

And you are so right that in a couple of weeks it will be replaced with people whinging about Christmas lights

Fionaville · 05/11/2023 12:58

It's absolutely pointless to complain. I'm a 70s child still living in my home town and it's always been like a war zone, with bonfires everywhere on bonfire night. Everyone just accepted it/enjoyed it.
Since SM though, everybody likes to complain. Including the very people who let off fireworks when their own children were younger.
Leave them to it, they'll be moaning about something else next week.

haribosmarties · 05/11/2023 12:56

Yanbu
I certainly think people should act with a bit of thought and not let off loud fireworks in residential areas or very late at night or on random dates that aren't the weekend of bonfire night.
But I do think some people get proper ridiculous whinging about it.
The wild animal thing is fkn ridiculous when we slaughter millions of cows every day and chuck half of them in the bin because they don't sell. When people still out on the moors for several months of the year shooting birds with rifles.
Yeah but 30 mins of fireworks a couple of times a year is just a step to far for poor animals lmao
I say this as a vegetarian.
People are ridiculous. Your little dog getting a bit worried for an hour of their life merits 100 angry posts on Facebook about what cunts everyone are.. Mass daily slaughter = radio silence.
And I know a bunch of veterans with ptsd.. I work in mental health. No one gives a shit about organised firework displays. Stop using these people's experiences to go nuts on social media... it's YOU who doesn't like fireworks just admit it. Stop hiding behind people.
Yes letting off random fireworks in built up areas can effect veterans with ptsd and I do think it's antisocial and shitty. But the organised firework displays are easily dealt with as they are expected timed events that people can avoid or take steps to mitigate.
Of all the things to get angry about loud fireworks existing is just nonsense really. I don't like to be a 'whataboutter' but in this instance I do think 'really? With all that's going on in the world this is what you chose to foam at the mouth about?'
I think it's OK to remind people to take into consideration their local environment if they are planning a home display... fair enough.
But I do see these ridiculous posts saying all fireworks should be banned etc and I do roll my eyes

CrunchyCarrot · 05/11/2023 12:48

I would have them banned to public displays only.

I have hyperacusis. Fireworks (amongst other things) are very traumatic for me. Fortunately I now live where there aren't too many (part of the reason I now live where I do!). Even so, I still wear earplugs and ear defenders over those. Plus keep the cat in! Although he is less bothered by them than I am.

CoffeeCantata · 05/11/2023 12:44

Our next-door-next-door neighbours were letting off horrendous things for over an hour last night. I went into the utility room and it actually shook. It was like the Western Front and very macho.

Please - lay off these stupid things and go to a public display where it all gets done and dusted in a one-off.

Or get fireworks that just hiss make a pretty display and aren't in effect miniature bombs.

Surely2023IsTheYearForMyRainbowBaby · 05/11/2023 12:40

yogiil · 06/11/2022 07:00

There's your 3 hours of constant bangs.

3 hours of constant bangs? who on earth can afford that?

Apparently the idiots near me. It was absolutely belting it down over here last night as well

GasPanic · 05/11/2023 12:19

GreenWheat · 06/11/2022 06:55

The best thing about this coming Monday is that the pointless moaning about Halloween and Bonfire Night stops. Even if it was limited to the organised public displays the complainers say they want, people would still be moaning about those. I guess tomorrow they switch to grousing about Christmas though.....

The moaners save it up over Christmas to deliver on New Years Eve.

I have a shooting range near me. On Sundays for about 2 hours they have clay pigeon. The bangs and the pops are really loud, I would say at least as loud as the fireworks I hear in my house if not louder. There is a forest walk close by which I walk every week at that time. I've seen a ton of different dogs being walked on that path that weren't in the slightest bit concerned (it fact more of them are interested in covering me in mud, but that's another issue). Which tells you that it is not just all dogs that are terrified by fireworks, but a subset of them.

How big this subset is I don't know. But the idea that all dogs are terrified by fireworks is not true, so it could be that people asking for it to be banned are actually quite a small percentage of the total ownership.

JoanThursday1972 · 05/11/2023 11:52

I love bonfire night, always have, but I don't see the point of bangs. Just turn down the noise and keep it to organised displays.

Rosebel · 06/11/2022 22:45

Someone at the back of our house has been letting off fireworks tonight. They are still going on now and are bloody loud.
Scaring the shit out of my autistic DD and waking our 2 year old. Not impressed.
What sort of selfish idiot lets fireworks off at 10:45 on a Sunday night?

Caramelsmadfuzzytail · 06/11/2022 19:52

About an hour ago, I was listening to a book, all of a sudden there was a mahoosive boom followed by 2/3 not so loud. This was an organised display. I may have forgotten how loud they were due to the 2 year covid break, but I don't think so.
This display is always held in the centre of town, in a large park, so I get a free display every year. Fortunately the loudness only lasted 2 minutes.
This evening I nearly fell off my bed, my cat also looked bothered. I'm glad my mh issues aren't affected by noise.
I dont have a problem with loud fireworks, I have a problem with one's that sound like a bomb has gone off.

redflowerbluethorns · 06/11/2022 19:33

In the late 90s, somebody threw a lit firework at me. I was about 9. Somebody pulled me out the way. If they didn't, it probably would have taken my leg off.

They're legal explosives and it's absolutely ridiculous.

My friend is a physio and says that they have a lot of appointments after new year due to loss of movement in hands due to firework related accidents.

They scare the shit out of elderly people, livestock, wildlife, pets. They can cause seizures in epileptic people. They cause fires and accidents. Yet somehow they're still legal and you can buy them easily. They should be kept to licensed and organised displays only.

rightkindofwrongg · 06/11/2022 19:27

People with their fireworks should just fuck off
Either organised displays with silent fireworks or nothing

there is just no need to panic wildlife, pets and people

Kite22 · 06/11/2022 19:11

yogiil · 06/11/2022 07:00

There's your 3 hours of constant bangs.

3 hours of constant bangs? who on earth can afford that?

Surely you can understand that that is a combination of different displays?
I live in a big City, and seriously, they started about 4 / 4.30 pm yesterday and peaked around 7, but then started up again after 8, and there were more after 9 and right through until the early hours. A lot longer than 3 hours, and of course they have been going on since the end of October when Diwali was.

As I said before, I like fireworks.
I don't have a baby, I don't have PSTD, I don't have pets so have no skin in the game, but I do have empathy for people who struggle with so many fireworks now being the equivalent of small bombs. There is just no need. Fireworks are beautiful - they don't need the added sound effects.

runninglikewater · 06/11/2022 14:49

yogiil · 06/11/2022 07:00

There's your 3 hours of constant bangs.

3 hours of constant bangs? who on earth can afford that?

Maybe re-read my post. The combined impact of lots of little displays is constant fireworks. It has been here all weekend.

spaceshiptrain · 06/11/2022 13:41

FlissyPaps · 05/11/2022 23:03

YANBU. It’s the same old shit every year. (Apart from the cost of living crisis)

I don’t understand the complaining on social media - it literally achieves nothing.

But neither does complaining about the complaining here, nor your comment, nor mine, nor... anything?

Honestly though I wish they would get banned like in Ireland. They are at best useless and at worst dangerous.

LargeHadronCollidHER · 06/11/2022 11:56

RichardMarxisinnocent · 06/11/2022 11:31

I'm not miserable. I have a phobia of fire and fireworks being let off close to my home terrify me, especially if accompanied by enormous bangs. I had to work very hard on Friday evening and last night using various CBT techniques to stop having a full blown panic attack.

But those who every year on MN ridicule people who hate fireworks, and call them miserable fun sponges, and laugh at any worries about scared animals, don't give a shit about people like me. I have no objections to safe organised fireworks displays, but absolutely hate people letting them off in tiny gardens surrounded by densely packed housing.

Who has made fun of those who don’t like them?

This post is about those who MOAN about them.

Unless you’re one of these sad people who moan on a local FB group because you are scared you’re not what this post is about.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 06/11/2022 11:31

LargeHadronCollidHER · 06/11/2022 10:27

YANBU

some people are just miserable though, I always read those posts and just pity them

I'm not miserable. I have a phobia of fire and fireworks being let off close to my home terrify me, especially if accompanied by enormous bangs. I had to work very hard on Friday evening and last night using various CBT techniques to stop having a full blown panic attack.

But those who every year on MN ridicule people who hate fireworks, and call them miserable fun sponges, and laugh at any worries about scared animals, don't give a shit about people like me. I have no objections to safe organised fireworks displays, but absolutely hate people letting them off in tiny gardens surrounded by densely packed housing.

LargeHadronCollidHER · 06/11/2022 10:27

YANBU

some people are just miserable though, I always read those posts and just pity them

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