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Argument with DS1

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TheSummerHolidaysMakeMeCrazy · 05/10/2022 17:00

I really can't work out if I'm unreasonable here or my son was.

DS1 is 18 and lives at home while going to uni. He didn't have classes today so was playing on his PS5, I knocked the WiFi off while he was mid-game and he blew up. Telling me I don't listen (as I shouldn't have messed with the WiFi mid-game), really raising his voice so I told him not to talk to me like that and it was out of order. He then told me 3 times to "get out" [his room].

I then went downstairs and text him that I understood he was frustrated but he was not to talk to me like that. There was general back & forth but I said no matter what, he can't speak to me like that. He then said "I don't care", so I replied "you know where the door is".

So, he's gone, packed a bag and off to Leeds where his girlfriend is in halls.

He's stressed as he didn't do as well as expected in his A Levels and has to do an extended course to get onto his chosen degree. As it was through clearing he missed out on accommodation so he's feeling left behind.

But, how much leeway does he get for that. I'm kicking myself for the door comment but I can't allow him to speak like that, he's 18 fgs.

But i feel do guilty because of all the frustration and how scared he is, he just took it all out on me.

God that's long.

Was IBU?

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ZebraD · 16/05/2023 07:52

My DS(18) has left home on the back of an argument.
It’s a very sad situation really, when I split with his father he was 6. Things were ok at first but then he started to change towards me a year is so after.
Instinctively, it felt like his father had been bad mouthing me and then my DS confessed but only gave limited information as he was a child and I didn’t want to push it.
Fast forward to now and I have a great relationship with ex MIL and FIL who confirmed my thoughts. The things he used to say about me was disgusting. And they told his father to stop talking about me to my DS.
He doesn’t see his father much now - his father gives him plenty of money and unfortunately money talks with my DS.
I have no contact with his father and haven’t done for years.
As a result, my relationship has sadly suffered with my DS despite my efforts. I have always tried to compensate for his fathers words about me with no success.
Last week, my DS passed in a message from his father and finished it with ‘but I am not getting involved’
I was really annoyed at the tone my DS used and the fact that he could ‘get involved’ when his dad wanted him to deliver a shit sandwich to me.
I said, go and live with your dad as I am fed up of the rude behaviour and snide remarks I constantly get from DS. I constantly bite my tongue at his rudeness towards me. He seems only interested in me when he is getting something.
He has basically now left, sneaked back for his clothes to move in with his gf at her parents. He has been with this girl for a couple of month. She is 17. Her parents have 2 other younger children.
He hasn’t spoke. To me about it. It’s like he has just ghosted me. His mother, who has done everything for him (that has never quite been enough)
Ifeel utterly heartbroken at all of this and can’t stop crying. I fully appreciate I lashed out by saying go and live with your father but in all honesty I just have never quite been good enough for my son. I don’t even feel like he likes me most of the time.
I have two other children who I have an amazing relationship with. They all get the same.
Really don’t need any hate messages. Be gentle.

TheSummerHolidaysMakeMeCrazy · 05/10/2022 20:17

Oh and I apologised over text for the "you know where the door is", I think that comment is what I'll pay for, but he's ignored me.

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TheSummerHolidaysMakeMeCrazy · 05/10/2022 20:15

@Prescottdanni123 I think you've hit the nail on the head and that's how I see it now I've calmed down but 18 year olds aren't well know for self reflection so I see it playing out quite dramatically on his end.

Thanks for allowing me to ponder and we'll see what tomorrow brings.

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Prescottdanni123 · 05/10/2022 19:30

I don't think the game is the real issue here. He has been stressed, scared and frustrated lately and the game being disturbed may well have been the straw that broke the camel's back. Sometimes, when we are going through a lot of stressful things, the tiniest, most ridiculous things can set us off. It could be that he is using the game as an escapism from his real life worries as well and when he lost that and the relief he got from it, however temporarily he hit the roof.

Of course he still should,'t have hit the roof and you were right to call him out on it. He'll be back once he has had time to cool down and reflect

ChateauxNeufDePoop · 05/10/2022 19:03

When you say knocked off the wifi do you mean knocked the router over and it disconnected his game? If so yes he's wildly over reacted but YABU about "I just can't see how to get him to understand he was the one in the wrong" because on the subject of him leaving the house you're as much in the wrong as he is.

GreyBlossom · 05/10/2022 19:01

When I not just as bad an prone to arguing back I tend to treat these episodes like the outbursts he had at the 8/9 yo testosterone surge.

"That's not OK, take some time and we'll talk about it when you're ready".

I'd probably leave the WiFi off until he was "ready"

Billybagpuss · 05/10/2022 18:56

What’s he planning on doing for money, whilst he might be able to stay awhile she’s not going to support him indefinitely, real life will catch up with him eventually.

Cruisebabe1 · 05/10/2022 18:56

Ponoka7 · 05/10/2022 17:51

Why were you in his room?

It’s the Op’s house? 🧐🧐

DeliberatelyObtuse · 05/10/2022 18:49

If she's in flat style halls the other students might complain about him being there and he'll end up back home

Hopefully after he apologises for being a rude prick

latetothefisting · 05/10/2022 18:30

is he on a back up list for accomodation? Just because a lot of people drop out or change flats within the first month or 2 of uni, so might be worth him checking up with the uni if he wants to move out. Otherwise most people tend to move in with others they meet through halls so he might struggle finding somewhere to live for the next 2 years too and I think you're probably both at the stage where he would benefit from living elsewhere and realising a) how good he has it at home and b) flatmates wouldn't put up with being shouted at for a mistake so he shouldn't treat his mum worse than he would random strangers!

hesbeingabitofadick · 05/10/2022 18:30

It's a sodding game. No one should be shouting at anyone because they've lost a poxy game ffs unreal

^This.

He's old enough to know better. Leave him to his flounce. He needs to apologise for his behaviour.

Afterfire · 05/10/2022 18:25

SeasonFinale · 05/10/2022 18:14

To those saying he won't be able to stay in halls for long I know of a student who did manage to live with their boyfriend for an entire year in their halls room and therefore managed to save themselves thousands!

Yep it happened quite a lot in my dds first year of university too! If they’re sneaky no one will find out / say anything…!

SeasonFinale · 05/10/2022 18:14

To those saying he won't be able to stay in halls for long I know of a student who did manage to live with their boyfriend for an entire year in their halls room and therefore managed to save themselves thousands!

Keyansier · 05/10/2022 18:13

itsgettingweird · 05/10/2022 18:08

How would you feel if someone knocked the WiFi off mid game?

I just don't understand why you would do that?

I have a ds the same age and if I treat him like a child he responds like one.

When I speak to him like an adult he responds well to that and discusses things with me.

How was OP supposed to know? It doesn't sound like she did it on purpose (or why would she be asking why the wifi wasn't working if she deliberately switched it off?)

(Although saying that, if you did deliberately switch it off or reset it to try and fix it OP, it's always best to let everyone know first as it could have been much, much more important than a game)

forlornlorna1 · 05/10/2022 18:10

itsgettingweird · 05/10/2022 18:08

How would you feel if someone knocked the WiFi off mid game?

I just don't understand why you would do that?

I have a ds the same age and if I treat him like a child he responds like one.

When I speak to him like an adult he responds well to that and discusses things with me.

Lol ok.

It's a sodding game. No one should be shouting at anyone because they've lost a poxy game ffs unreal

Afterfire · 05/10/2022 18:10

Oh god don’t apologise. He’s an adult. A young one at that but imagine if he was an older man behaving like this when his wife accidentally kicked off the wifi? You’d have replies telling you he was an abusive idiot. Yes he’s stressed and having a difficult time - isn’t everyone? He needs to learn he can’t speak to you like that.

itsgettingweird · 05/10/2022 18:08

How would you feel if someone knocked the WiFi off mid game?

I just don't understand why you would do that?

I have a ds the same age and if I treat him like a child he responds like one.

When I speak to him like an adult he responds well to that and discusses things with me.

Maray1967 · 05/10/2022 18:07

What? You must not apologise! I have two DSs - if mine spoke to me like that they’d be in massive trouble.
He is unlikely to be allowed to stay in her hall room - probably shouldn’t even be there for one night.

TheSummerHolidaysMakeMeCrazy · 05/10/2022 18:00

Thanks for the support, I appreciate the responses so far.

I was in his room discussing the WiFi not working in another room.

He's so stubborn I can see him not coming back until i apologise. I just can't see how to get him to understand he was the one in the wrong.

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Keyansier · 05/10/2022 17:58

oh and YANBU OP

Keyansier · 05/10/2022 17:57

7Worfs · 05/10/2022 17:40

I play games and yes, it’s not nice to lose a game because of knocked rooter, but I’d never accept nerd rage in my house.
Stick to your guns.

I've recently had to seriously cut down time on a game after I started shouting and swearing at the screen Blush

Blobblobblob · 05/10/2022 17:55

You were spot on, he's an adult and needs to conduct himself accordingly. Being a twat over a game is not acceptable, it's not like you interrupted a job interview and even then, behaviour like that is not a reasonable or proportionate response.

Ponoka7 · 05/10/2022 17:51

Why were you in his room?

lailamaria · 05/10/2022 17:44

i mean i get why he was frustrated, online games sometimes have a timer where you can't play if you quit mid game but he shouldn't have spoken to you like crap i think you're both at fault tbh him for speaking to you like that and you for making rash comments

Untitledsquatboulder · 05/10/2022 17:44

One-way = leeway