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Cash?

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Flutterbybudget · 28/08/2022 12:05

To think that companies and shops should really be accepting cash again now?
I know that during the last few years, people were being encouraged to use contactless payments “where possible” officially to reduce germ carrying on cash, but NOW with no Covid restrictions and the cost of living soaring, I think that more and more people will WANT to return to paying cash for various purchases (makes budgeting simpler) and it seems bizarre to me that some places are still refusing to accept cash payments.
I, for one, don’t want to live in a cashless society, where every penny that I have can be tracked, traced and taxed. I want to be able to sell an old piece of furniture, without that being questioned and taken as “income”. I want to be able to give my children/ grandchildren coins to put in their money box.

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Ginmonkeyagain · 04/12/2022 08:06

Card only works for a lot of business and events as cash leaks (in plain language people can steal it). There is also a security cost in collecting and banking it.

As to why a business might be cash only, it can be preference but it might be a sign of a very new business or a business in financial trouble. If you are new or have poor credit a lot of suppliers will only accept "COD" (cash on delivery).

Ratched · 04/12/2022 06:48

I'm probably going to tell this all wrong, so bear with me🙂
Something I read a few weeks ago:

I have £50 cash. I spend it in the restaurant. The owner uses my £50 to pay the greengrocer, the greengrocer uses it to pay for a haircut, the hairdresser uses it to pay for...... you get the picture. At the end of 30 transactions, that £50 is still £50.

Using a card for the same amount would incur a service charge everytime that £50 was recycled. At the end of 30 transactions, it would be worth nowhere near the original value.

I always use my card in supermarkets etc., but for small businesses and market stalls I tend to use cash.

DillDanding · 04/12/2022 06:21

I can’t remember the last time I used cash. I use my phone for everything. Even buskers in tube stations have a device for Apple Pay now.

Roselilly36 · 04/12/2022 06:13

I agree a move to cash less, would be bad for so many people, easier to budget, some people don’t even have cards, they only use cash, it’s all they have known.

Not so long ago shops wouldn’t allow you to use cards for under a fiver, now there is no limit imposed.

I was speaking to a market trader yesterday, when bought my veg, she said she had recently visited a coffee shop in our city and was told card only, she is partially sighted and feels safer paying cash as she struggles to see numbers on the display, etc, she was going to leave when another customer paid for her coffee for her by card, while telling the coffee shop staff, it was wrong not to accept cash.

But like everything in life, unless people use cash, withdraw from banks, atms, not doubt it will disappear overtime. Plans seem well underway, saw a document online from BOE about digital currency, some time ago now, Google it.

muddlinthroughit · 04/12/2022 06:11

muddlinthroughit · 04/12/2022 06:10

I work in a company that has stopped taking cash.
The reason? Small trans, lack of decent bank facilities and COVID

Teams

muddlinthroughit · 04/12/2022 06:10

I work in a company that has stopped taking cash.
The reason? Small trans, lack of decent bank facilities and COVID

lightand · 04/12/2022 06:01

If I come across people who are pushing for no cash, I have my suspicions about them.

lightand · 04/12/2022 06:00

Badbadbunny · 30/08/2022 07:18

Either run by older people or won't embrace technology or tax evaders.

Or who realise the agenda going on

unbreakbroken · 31/08/2022 08:01

Exasperatednow · 29/08/2022 22:03

Sorry you're quite right. If you are VAT registered you do and then if income over £10k you will be 2024 and then all corporation tax return by 2026 for ltd companies.

Incorrect. That's not what Making Tax Digital Means.

You cannot file corporation tax returns on paper without being fined except in a number of very limited, very specific circumstances.

You can file personal tax and partnership returns on paper without penalty if you file them three months early.

A sole trader would file a personal tax return and could file on paper (although this is heavily discouraged - HMRC don't even send out paper returns anymore as a broad rule). A company would file a corporation tax return electronically. Companies have had to file electronically for over 10 years now.

A little Google is a dangerous thing...

Flutterbybudget · 31/08/2022 07:49

Badbadbunny · 31/08/2022 07:35

Exactly the same could happen if you lost your purse or had it stolen!

To a point, but with cash, there’s a limit on what they could spend. In my case, usually around £2.50 😂

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Badbadbunny · 31/08/2022 07:35

abblie · 31/08/2022 00:18

Hate using my card !! And what's worse is if your out and about and lose your card and someone finds it they can go on a shopping spree and you wouldn't know

Exactly the same could happen if you lost your purse or had it stolen!

abblie · 31/08/2022 00:18

Hate using my card !! And what's worse is if your out and about and lose your card and someone finds it they can go on a shopping spree and you wouldn't know

apintortwo · 30/08/2022 23:49

Personally I hate cash and love card only spending using my Apple Watch which is so handy. I'd be happy to get rid of cash altogether.

In a cashless society you would be at the mercy of the government, banks and (usually global) mammoth organisations who are unlikely to have your best interests at heart (see the Go Fund Me example above).

You may think wearing just your watch is liberating, but you can actually end up trapped

MrsDThomas · 30/08/2022 21:01

I use cash most of the time. I take out £X per week and that is my budget,

my 18 year old daughter does it. She takes out money for spends like costa or what ever and only buys fuel on card. I hope it will carry on to uni,

most places round here use cash.

Flutterbybudget · 30/08/2022 20:57

apintortwo · 30/08/2022 11:00

YANBU @Flutterbybudget

The cashless trend is dangerous. You only have to see what happened recently with the tractors' peaceful protests in Canada. Those in favour of the protests who had sent donations through Go Fund Me had their bank accounts frozen and funds redirected to a different cause. Read about it. It's scary.

Cash equals freedom (and it has nothing to do with tax avoidance). Maybe people are waking up to this issue as lately I've seen more and more shops with 'we prefer cash payments if possible' signs.

I try to actively avoid 'Card Only' establishments and stick to those accepting both methods of payment where possible

Exactly this

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Coldilox · 30/08/2022 20:51

If I owned a business I would be card only. Cash on the premises is too big a risk of robbery.

Flutterbybudget · 30/08/2022 20:48

antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 12:05

Our Co-op had self-service card-only tills. It now has some self-service cash and card tills as it had simply led to long queues at the only cashier till where you could still pay cash.

Ours is card only on self service - as I found out the other day, when I only had cash and scanned all my shopping through before I noticed 😂

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antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 12:05

Our Co-op had self-service card-only tills. It now has some self-service cash and card tills as it had simply led to long queues at the only cashier till where you could still pay cash.

apintortwo · 30/08/2022 11:37

More people must be using cash. My big local Tesco and Lidl have cash options on the serve yourself tills. Previous they were cards only

I noticed this at Decathlon also

apintortwo · 30/08/2022 11:13

The amount of people who think it's fine to give you a £10 note that they've been holding IN THEIR MOUTH while they fuck around with their phone is disgusting

Everything you touch once you are out of the house is 'filthy' as it has been touched by other people (think traffic lights, on the bus, literally everywhere). This argument is silly

apintortwo · 30/08/2022 11:00

YANBU @Flutterbybudget

The cashless trend is dangerous. You only have to see what happened recently with the tractors' peaceful protests in Canada. Those in favour of the protests who had sent donations through Go Fund Me had their bank accounts frozen and funds redirected to a different cause. Read about it. It's scary.

Cash equals freedom (and it has nothing to do with tax avoidance). Maybe people are waking up to this issue as lately I've seen more and more shops with 'we prefer cash payments if possible' signs.

I try to actively avoid 'Card Only' establishments and stick to those accepting both methods of payment where possible

antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 09:35

Badbadbunny · 30/08/2022 07:12

During Storm Desmond, our area was badly affected with no power for a few days. Cash didn't help at all. Shops, pharmacies, garages, etc were closed. They couldn't open without power for lighting, security, tills, etc. A few shops opened with restrictions just to get rid of their perishables. Believe me, having cash didn't really help - nothing was open!

Independents still opened in my high street. No lighting, no security whether they were open or not. Transactions cash only and cashiers wrote down purchases for the record. The chains all closed, but I could still buy things I needed with cash.
I have no issue with anyone not wanting to use cash ever. But technology can and does fail.

antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 09:21

I am not using my phone to pay. Because it has a bigger screen it will not fit into my trouser pocket, I have to put it in a handbag which is far less secure and much more easily stolen.

FinallyHere · 30/08/2022 08:54

@Zippea

I'm sorry you couldn't get the cold drink you wanted? Did you have your phone with you, if not a bank card?

Could you set up apple or Google pay on your phone for future use?

Badbadbunny · 30/08/2022 07:26

bellamountain · 29/08/2022 23:20

Cash is legal tender and I can't believe businesses are allowed to say no. Physical money helps young children understand how to count money and learn the value. It means more to them when they receive money to put in their piggy banks. Many many people draw out what they need and then aren't tempted to spend anymore. It's so so easy to fritter away money on a card.

Further, women escaping domestic violence, cash means they can't be traced by a controlling abuser.

Cash is only legal tender to pay a debt.

Shops and restaurants have the legal right not to serve anyone they choose for any reason (other than legally protected descrimination characteristics such as sex, religion, etc).

I suppose it's arguable that once you've had your meal and have been presented with the bill, then you have a "debt" to pay and could force them to accept cash, but if they've got signs up saying "card only" or tell you it's card only beforehand, then you're in breach of contract by trying to pay in cash only!