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To be finished with voting Tory

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Viviennemary · 03/04/2022 16:47

I've voted Tory in the last couple of elections. Didn't like Corbyn and thought Keir Stammer was a bit feeble. But after that smug performance by Sunak I am totally not going to vote Tory for a very long time. We are now in a position not to be affected too much by recent rises. Not always been that way of course. I wonder if others are feeling the same. But the lack of any sort of help for less well off people makes me absolutely sick. And all decided by a multi millionaire.

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IOnlycreatedaccountforthispost · 18/04/2023 18:02

I vote tory and will continue to do so.

Kendodd · 18/04/2023 09:03

Greenfairydust · 18/04/2023 08:03

Never have and never will vote Tory.

My vote has always gone to Labour or the Lib Dem depending on the election.

I would say that there used to be the odd Tory politicians I could respect but the current lot has truly reached a low point and are basically criminals with posh accents: corrupt, lying, greedy and in the hands of big businesses or foreign powers.

They have have pretty much destroyed the country (the economy, the NHS, our reputation abroad) and polluted our rivers and seas.

I want to see people like Johnson and Hancock in front of a jury. Not to mention Sunak's constant lack of financial transparency scrutinised...

I am actually quite tough on things like criminal sentences (I want to see tougher sentences for rapes/sexual assaults, knife crime and a serious crack down on anti-social behaviour) and controlling immigration (I don't think we have the housing and health infrastructure to continue to take on so many people) but I could never vote for the Tories out of common decency.

I think we had our Trump moment, now it is time to bring back decent politicians and politics.

Thing is, our Trump moment (Brexit) is going to be extremely difficult to roll back, voters have done damage that'll last generations, in many cases, long after they themselves are dead.

Also, its shown to politicians that lying to the public works and has very little in the way of consequences for the liars. Nobody is holding politicians to account for the lies they told, the press and public just let them move on. The homer has gone out of politics and I think it will be very hard to get back.

Greenfairydust · 18/04/2023 08:07

''@Issania87 · Yesterday 22:12
My main issue with voting Labour is that their manifesto always sounds great but I wonder how on earth they would fund it.''

Here is a novel idea: tax higher earners properly and big corporations so they no longer get away with paying no or little tax...

That should free up some money.

We all know that at the moment the tax burden falls on those on low and medium incomes.

While people like Sunak, Rees-Mogg and so on use clever accounting to pay lower rates.

Greenfairydust · 18/04/2023 08:03

Never have and never will vote Tory.

My vote has always gone to Labour or the Lib Dem depending on the election.

I would say that there used to be the odd Tory politicians I could respect but the current lot has truly reached a low point and are basically criminals with posh accents: corrupt, lying, greedy and in the hands of big businesses or foreign powers.

They have have pretty much destroyed the country (the economy, the NHS, our reputation abroad) and polluted our rivers and seas.

I want to see people like Johnson and Hancock in front of a jury. Not to mention Sunak's constant lack of financial transparency scrutinised...

I am actually quite tough on things like criminal sentences (I want to see tougher sentences for rapes/sexual assaults, knife crime and a serious crack down on anti-social behaviour) and controlling immigration (I don't think we have the housing and health infrastructure to continue to take on so many people) but I could never vote for the Tories out of common decency.

I think we had our Trump moment, now it is time to bring back decent politicians and politics.

Blossomtoes · 18/04/2023 07:28

BlackForestCake · 18/04/2023 00:41

As much as I disagree with labour on the issue I still need to do all in my power to stop continuing austerity

Wes Streeting and Rachel Reeves are pretty clear that they intend to do bugger all to stop continuing austerity.

You mean they’re going to improve public services by funding them properly with money saved by stopping Tory handouts to all their mates? Austerity is based on Tory ideology, there was never any financial basis for it.

ssd · 18/04/2023 07:10

Op very much I'm alright jack

Typical tory

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Viviennemary · 18/04/2023 01:31

Brexit hasn't affected me very much. I've noticed the increase in food prices and stopped buyng a few things on principle. There was a time when they would have really worried me. This Rishi Sunak fiasco has really annoyed me. I was waverng a bit last week when I saw the dreaded Angela Raynor spouting forth on TV. But no I am not going to vote Tory.

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BlackForestCake · 18/04/2023 00:41

As much as I disagree with labour on the issue I still need to do all in my power to stop continuing austerity

Wes Streeting and Rachel Reeves are pretty clear that they intend to do bugger all to stop continuing austerity.

Kendodd · 17/04/2023 22:21

Viviennemary · 03/04/2022 19:40

I voted Tory because I thought they would waste less money on daft schemes. But billions gone on useless PP equipment and furlough fraud. And nothing to be done about it. And contracts for ppe gone to their mates. I voted Brexit because I was sick of Europe calling the shots and challenging our courts. But final for me was Sunak. And trillions grabbed in profit for the power companies and savings never passed on to the customer. All rubber stamped by the tories. A good few steps too far.

How's Brexit working out for you OP?

Blossomtoes · 17/04/2023 22:14

If you read their manifesto you’d see exactly how they’d fund it. And it won’t be by squeezing middle earners.

Issania87 · 17/04/2023 22:12

My main issue with voting Labour is that their manifesto always sounds great but I wonder how on earth they would fund it. I also would worry being a middle earner because we are squeezed enough by the Tory government, and I think that would only get worse under Labour.

I've no idea who to vote for at the next election because right now, there is no one who represents me to choose.

DaSilvaP · 17/04/2023 21:10

ExtraOnion · 03/04/2022 16:56

Then stop voting for individuals and whether or not you think they are “nice” or not - and start scrutinising policies

Sounds right - in theory.

In practice? At the time of Brexit, I was listening on the radio to people talking for or against Brexit. I was flabbergasted by the prevailing ignorance about how EU really works and the extremely short-sighted reasons people were giving for being for or against a decision that will have an impact for tens of years!

BTW Labor is no better than Tories. To be trusted about as much as letting loonies running the asylum.

MurielSpriggs · 27/04/2022 21:49

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PurassicJark · 27/04/2022 21:40

ssd · 27/04/2022 20:57

There's a certain type of person who dislikes a lot of the things happening in our country and doesn't equate it to the government in power.

Scary these people have the right to vote.

Probably the same people who had to be taught how to wash their hands as adults and still got it wrong.

ssd · 27/04/2022 20:57

There's a certain type of person who dislikes a lot of the things happening in our country and doesn't equate it to the government in power.

Scary these people have the right to vote.

MissNormaSnockers · 27/04/2022 20:57

Always makes me chuckle when people say ridiculous things like "I'm not voting until there's someone worth voting for" and "I'm abstaining" - that's a bit like saying "I dont like eating dog sh1t or earwax, so i wont order either.".... YOU REALISE YOU'RE GOING TO GET FORCE-FED ONE OR THE OTHER WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT SO YOU MAY AS WELL PICK THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS, RIGHT?!🤔

CanofCant · 27/04/2022 20:55

TheMarvelousMrsMaisel · 03/04/2022 16:52

I never voted tory.

Bit late to regret it now isn't it? This is what YOU voted for. Miserable life's for everyone and grannies freezing to death. Be careful what you wish for.

Ugh this. My ex is constantly Tory bashing on FB when he bloody voted for them!!! He was apparently 'tricked' and 'disillusioned' and therefore deserves empathy. It doesn't spout him from slinging shit at other Tory voters. He's such a fucking clueless and boring cliché.

MissNormaSnockers · 27/04/2022 20:50

user1471504747 · 03/04/2022 17:26

@Pixiedust1234

I've never voted tory but right now they are the only party that knows what a woman is biologically. Since rapists are being put into womens prisons and womens hospital wards now is the time to say #nothankyou, not #bekind. Its shit tbh
So rapists are being put into women’s prisons and hospital wards now...under the tory government...so in order to stop that, you’re going to vote tory?

How does that one make sense then Confused

As much as I disagree with labour on the issue I still need to do all in my power to stop continuing austerity and all the other shit the conservatives have thrown at us. I can’t afford to say none of that matters just because Boris said something about women.

My thoughts exactly, user.

MissNormaSnockers · 27/04/2022 20:45

WELL SAID! It is a question of morals. If you vote for tory policies, you either have no morals or you have no idea what policies actually are. Voting for the person instead of the policies is clueless and foolish.

MissNormaSnockers · 27/04/2022 20:32

That is the most backwards logic I've ever heard.... This is what you sound like right now:

  1. Oh Tories are in power and right now tory policies are allowing rapists to be put into womens prisons and hospitals....
  2. I dont like rapists being put in womens prisons and hospitals
  3. Oooh I know.... I'll keep voting tory so that they allow more rapists into womens prisons and hospitals
  4. I'll blame labour for the tories putting rapists into womens hospitals and prisons even though labour aren't in power and so it's obviously not their fault and labour have no control over it
  5. Thank god I dont have a brain to think for myself and I can just rely on the media that is owned by multi-billionaires like lord Rothermere to tell me what is best.

You realise you should vote for policies and not a person, right? If you dont know anything about politics then there are tons of online questionnaires that take 2 minutes to fill in and then tells you what political party policies align most closely with your own beliefs👍

Maybe common sense will slap you in the face and you'll realise that if you want a change in what is happening then you would need to vote for something different, but hey, I needed a good laugh today so cheers for that one😂😂😂👍

Nightlystroll · 07/04/2022 00:09

@Viviennemary

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse it now emerges Sunak's wife is non dom for tax purposes and has escaped paying millions in tax. Just seen it on Sky news. And he's the man who is holding the country's purse strings and putting up taxes. Why should he care. His wife doesn't pay any tax.
I'm not an expert on tax law but as she's an Indian and not a British citizen, doesnt that influence her non-dom status? Doesn't she pay uk tax on uk earnings and Indian tax on Indian earnings?
PenStation · 06/04/2022 23:41

Sunak and wife are a pair of leeching fuckers. Hate them all. Why the fuck people still like the tories is beyond my comprehension. Utterly corrupt.

Electrox · 06/04/2022 23:30

Consider all the issues of the day and vote for whichever party you think best at the time. At the moment I prefer the Tories to the others on offer.

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Viviennemary · 06/04/2022 23:25

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse it now emerges Sunak's wife is non dom for tax purposes and has escaped paying millions in tax. Just seen it on Sky news. And he's the man who is holding the country's purse strings and putting up taxes. Why should he care. His wife doesn't pay any tax.

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PenStation · 06/04/2022 21:03

Vote for policies definitely. There was a website last election to help with this, which could tell you which party aligned most closely with you views, although I have to say that all of the choices felt woeful.