To be finished with voting Tory

Where did that ambulance take you? Because it wouldn’t be given the time of day at my local A&E.

And the Tories are playing games with women’s right, self ID was their idea.

They don't care about women because they don't care about people. They are not better for women than labour or other parties.

The one thing the Tories are good at is knowing what to say (without meaning any of it).

Please don't let this be the deciding factor. They will not make women's lives better.

Of the people I know that are less fortunate than myself, they overwhelmingly vote Tory. Why am I expected to vote against my own interest for them? If the majority just voted in their own best interest surely democracy would work as intended.

I think the conservatives are better at matters to do with womens rights and I booked a private ambulance when I needed one last year (they cost £450 per trip).

It's not necessary to have sympathy, but surely non-Tory voters should welcome former Tory voters switching parties, because that's the only way we'll ever get a change of government!

Even accepting that you don't care about others, this isn't a sensible long or even medium term approach. As society collapses around you, crime rates rise; cities lose their nice shops, restaurants, parks and other amenities, and become unpleasant and more dangerous to visit; the countryside is spoiled; the quality and safety of food goes downhill; all around you people are unhappy and angry and you will get caught up in more road rage incidents for example, and more incidents in which people express their anger at your wealth. Nice things - like good old age care and private healthcare - will become harder to find and more expensive. Culture will go downhill as fewer people will be able to afford it. There will be an increasing brain drain by anyone who can find a way to leave the UK to live somewhere that has not decided to sacrifice everything for the increased wealth of a small number.

Let's hope you never need an ambulance then or, God forbid, are raped.

@Emotionalstorm so you're an 'I'm All Right, Jack'. Fair enough, who cares about people less fortunate than themselves anyway?

Their policies benefit my husband (he is the higher earner of our household). I am insulated from their failings.

@KimberleyClark mind boggling but it gives them an excuse. The tories certainly know what a woman is biologically but still doesn't stop them treating ordinary woman and children like crap. Why are we supposed to believe them anyway ? Not exactly got a good record for honesty have they !

I’m a lifelong labour supporter….but not at all happy voting for this current bunch of career politicians. I think of it like your football team -you may not like the current manager or owner but there’s nothing on gods earth that will make you change allegiance. I think anyone changing political (or football) allegiance isn’t really a supporter in the first place & only out for it will benefit them personally….not thinking of the whole picture (league!).

But it’s the Tory government who are doing that, and you are voting for them again?

Better late than never.

I think you're unreasonable to have voted Tory ever. I've never seen as much suffering as under a Conservation government.

They wont explain honestly.

Can you explain why?

I will vote Tory. I am not impressed with them but I will stick with them.

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I will never understand devotion to ANY political party. You are not alone though, there are many other people who will continue to vote the same, no matter what said party does.

@Earlydancing Sunak managed to pay just 22% on millions of investment income over 5 years.

All perfectly above board but should it be? Labour plan on getting rid of this loop hole.

Why should the wealthy pay tax at 20% on very high unearned income but you or i pay over double on our salaries?

The 50% rate wasn't in long enough to find out and other tax changes also took place when that rate was cut.

Here is a novel idea: tax higher earners properly and big corporations so they no longer get away with paying no or little tax...

Is that what Labour is suggesting?
Didn't tax revenues go up when the 50% tax rate was cut to 45%?
Which big corporations are paying no tax? If you're talking about those who use tax avoidance schemes, like Amazon, it's not just this country that's struggling with them. Best will in the world, unless there's an international shift, I can't see how Labour can change that.

Here is a novel idea: tax higher earners properly and big corporations so they no longer get away with paying no or little tax...

Is that what Labour is suggesting?
Didn't tax revenues go up when the 50% tax rate was cut to 45%?
Which big corporations are paying no tax? If you're talking about those on tax avoidance schemes, it's not just this country that's struggling with them. Best will in the world, unless there's an international shift, I can't see how Labour can change that.

Not so... Labour have identified a £25bn difference in taxation between "earned income" and "unearned income" i.e investments, capital gains etc, why should the wealthy not have their investments/BTL property sales taxed at PAYE income tax rates?

Austerity was arguably needed for 3 or 4 years after 2008, then we should have relaxed it and started investing in public services and their staff...

...we didn't, now we can see the problems it has caused in the NHS, Social Care, Police and Education.

YANBU I just wish there was someone convincing to vote for.

I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for you. You voted for austerity. You voted for poor and disabled people to be demonised and forced to live on less and less. You voted for councils to have their funding stripped, further affecting poor, vulnerable and disabled people. You voted for the deliberate underfunding of education and healthcare. You voted for Brexit.

Suck it up. This is what you deserve.