To be finished with voting Tory

Viviennemary · 2022-04-03T15:47:53+00:00

I've voted Tory in the last couple of elections. Didn't like Corbyn and thought Keir Stammer was a bit feeble. But after that smug performance by Sunak I am totally not going to vote Tory for a very long time. We are now in a position not to be affected too much by recent rises. Not always been that way of course. I wonder if others are feeling the same. But the lack of any sort of help for less well off people makes me absolutely sick. And all decided by a multi millionaire.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 24/04/2023 08:13

Kendodd · 22/04/2023 16:31

Also, I think 'first past the post' is a bad name for it. It should be described as a 'winner takes all' system because that's what it is.

Or as I prefer to call it "an anachronistic batshit pile of wank that onlyy persists because it suits big parties, mostly the Tories"

malificent7 · 22/04/2023 18:02

Yabu because they have always been like this and YOU voted for them!

ChristmasFluff · 22/04/2023 17:10

Every one of you who voted Tory have no right to whinge. You always knew they were 'us against them' - you just didn't realise you were part of the 'them'.

Happygirl79 · 22/04/2023 16:43

LuaDipa · 03/04/2022 17:23

@Pixiedust1234

I've never voted tory but right now they are the only party that knows what a woman is biologically. Since rapists are being put into womens prisons and womens hospital wards now is the time to say #nothankyou, not #bekind. Its shit tbh

This.

I’m thinking of abstaining as I won’t vote Conservative but can’t bring myself to vote Labour as I don’t understand how can they defend my rights when they can’t actually tell me what I am. It’s an utter shitshow at the minute.

By abstaining you achieve nothing. You are being apathetic in their eyes so the main parties don't get the message to change .By voting tactically you can send the message to those people and changes can happen.

Kendodd · 22/04/2023 16:31

Also, I think 'first past the post' is a bad name for it. It should be described as a 'winner takes all' system because that's what it is.

Blossomtoes · 22/04/2023 16:04

Emotionalstorm · 22/04/2023 14:23

Under the first past the post system a vote for any other party is wasted so there are only two choices really.

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That isn’t true. In marginal seats votes for any party can be crucial. Why do you think UKIP didn’t field candidates in 2019 seats where they’d have let Labour in by splitting the right wing vote?

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/04/2023 14:37

I'm glad you've copped on @Viviennemary. The penny will drop for most people before the next GE.

TimeToChange111 · 22/04/2023 14:28

YABU for ever voting Tory.

ChaToilLeam · 22/04/2023 14:25

You were unreasonable to vote for them in the first place. You and everyone else who did.

Emotionalstorm · 22/04/2023 14:23

TooBored1 · 22/04/2023 14:05

You were unreasonable to vote Tory just because you didn't like the labour leaders. Is personality all you go by? Not policies, ethics etc?

Are you really saying that you liked Boris more???? No other party you could have chosen instead?

Under the first past the post system a vote for any other party is wasted so there are only two choices really.

TooBored1 · 22/04/2023 14:05

You were unreasonable to vote Tory just because you didn't like the labour leaders. Is personality all you go by? Not policies, ethics etc?

Are you really saying that you liked Boris more???? No other party you could have chosen instead?

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 22/04/2023 13:59

Batshit

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 22/04/2023 13:58

Blossomtoes · 21/04/2023 00:37

Apparently not

The following is a list of countries currently following the first-past-the-post voting system for their national legislatures.[57][58]

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OP did say developed world which would shrink that list a bit.
Many are former UK colonies.
It's still an outdated basthiit system for elections.

Emotionalstorm · 22/04/2023 13:55

By the way the £450 included only a one hour wait time. If the wait time goes over that they charge by the hour and this was a year ago so they may have raised prices since.

Emotionalstorm · 22/04/2023 13:53

Kendodd · 20/04/2023 10:40

Can I ask about the private ambulance if you don't mind.
Did they blue light you or blue light to get to you? I'm curious as to how that works. So if I was a medic, could I just buy myself an old ambulance and set up my own private ambulance service allowing me to use blue lights to overrule normal traffic laws? I don't expect you to know the answer to this, but somebody else might.

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They did use the blue light for one of my other trips to an appointment with a consultant at Homerton Hospital because they were running late due to traffic. It looked like every other ambulance I've ever seen from the outside and they had medical equipment and two paramedics on board. Most of their jobs come from the NHS because a lot of trusts don't actually own their own fleet anymore. The paramedics were complaining that they pay through the nose for each trip and it would have been cheaper if they were allowed to keep the service in house but I guess someone in management decided to prioritise getting a short term windfall. The company I used was Harley Street Ambulance Service.

Blossomtoes · 21/04/2023 00:37

Abhannmor · 20/04/2023 23:23

That and the batshit crazy and undemocratic FPTP system.
Only 2 nations in the developed world use it afaik : Britain and the USA.

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Apparently not

The following is a list of countries currently following the first-past-the-post voting system for their national legislatures.[57][58]

Antigua and Barbuda - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigua_and_Barbuda

Abhannmor · 20/04/2023 23:23

Moodlesofnoodles · 20/04/2023 18:55

The obsession with more money for the extremely rich at the expense of everything and everyone else is what's destroying this country.

That and the batshit crazy and undemocratic FPTP system.
Only 2 nations in the developed world use it afaik : Britain and the USA.

Moodlesofnoodles · 20/04/2023 18:55

The obsession with more money for the extremely rich at the expense of everything and everyone else is what's destroying this country.

IOnlycreatedaccountforthispost · 20/04/2023 18:18

Just because someone has a different view point doesn’t give you the right to be bully them.
At the end if the day the decisions people make in life (including which party to vote for) are lead by what benefits you (and yours) the most, I don’t for one minute believe anyone votes for purely altruistic reasons although I’m sure you’ll delight in telling me otherwise.

Blossomtoes · 20/04/2023 10:56

They seem to be taxis with a bed from the very little Google reveals. There’s no suggestion that they’re for hire for emergency transport.

LexMitior · 20/04/2023 10:53

@Kendodd - you are right. I do not think it is well regulated. Private ambulances are a thing. They do not necessarily need to be at NHS spec either. I see a lot of them in London, and they do not blue light (because they do not have the authority).

Kendodd · 20/04/2023 10:40

Emotionalstorm · 19/04/2023 12:21

I think the conservatives are better at matters to do with womens rights and I booked a private ambulance when I needed one last year (they cost £450 per trip).

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Can I ask about the private ambulance if you don't mind.
Did they blue light you or blue light to get to you? I'm curious as to how that works. So if I was a medic, could I just buy myself an old ambulance and set up my own private ambulance service allowing me to use blue lights to overrule normal traffic laws? I don't expect you to know the answer to this, but somebody else might.

Kendodd · 20/04/2023 08:38

When I look at my own children, one of them has completely swallowed the consumerist dream, the other two haven't. So one has got a room full of shit she doesn't need from Home Bargains, the other two don't. She's no happier than the other two, she's just tripping over crap in her bedroom thinking about what to buy next, that she 'needs' and the other two are not.

Mummysatthebodyshop · 20/04/2023 08:31

Pixiedust1234 · 03/04/2022 17:13

I've never voted tory but right now they are the only party that knows what a woman is biologically. Since rapists are being put into womens prisons and womens hospital wards now is the time to say #nothankyou, not #bekind. Its shit tbh

Hate to break it to you but all the rights trans have got the past few years have been with... A TORY GOVERNMENT

Kendodd · 20/04/2023 08:29

Moodlesofnoodles · 19/04/2023 22:10

In its own way, your life sounds pretty grim, @Emotionalstorm .

It does, doesn't it.
I don't think the love of money can ever bring happiness, I'm not religious, but the bible was very wise on that one. I think theres even research saying as much, that beyond basic needs, money adds little. Obviously without basic needs being secure, misery results, unfortunately this is the situation for so very many, and growing numbers, in the country. All so a tiny number at the top can have so much, that won't even add anything to their happiness.