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AIBU to think 38 temp every afternoon isn't normal? Gp useless!

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Dennisreynoldsduster · 13/06/2021 11:47

DC had a virus and ended up in hospital for a night a month and a half ago. He had a fever, it came down and was normal for a few days, then (because we were told to keep tabs on him for a week) it started going up in the afternoons. Always the same time. Up to 38, would come down on its own without calpol.
He's a hot boy, we've never had a reading in the 36 bracket unless it's the early hours of the morning but surely this must mean he still has an underlying infection somewhere?

He's well, apart from some teeth coming through, and eating (pickier at lunchtime for some reason now) fine, drinking liquids, wet and dirty nappies (teething nappies are such a joy), he's playing, chattering, shouting, up to all kinds of mischief.

Because he's fine in himself, GP not even slightly interested, just said put the thermometer down and go on how he feels. But I'm only using the thermometer because with the kiss test he feels hot!

I'm a bit annoyed that the GP hasn't even seen him, and worried he could have a UTI even though the GP said because his nappies don't smell funny and he's not struggling to pass urine, it won't be that.

Am I being too PFB? I am prone to anxiety - health anxiety in particular - so I do find it hard to navigate instinct/irrational and rational reactions. DH thinks if GP says all fine, it's fine but I just can't see how 38 is normal - it's a fever!

He's had two covid PCR tests during this, plus the one at hospital, and all negative so it's not that, and GP knows all tests were negative so I thought he might see him now and check his ears/chest/throat etc.

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Dennisreynoldsduster · 13/06/2021 12:55

@Summersunshine3 thanks, I was told by a nurse that forehead ones are inaccurate and just measure skin temp and that ear is more accurate!

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Dennisreynoldsduster · 13/06/2021 12:54

@Ahnowcomon would he have more symptoms with tonsilitis? He won't let me near his mouth because of his teething

I think I will call tomorrow and try to get a sample (fun) for a UTI check and see if the doctor will check him over just to put my mind at rest but the last couple of times I've spoken to them they said he doesn't need to be seen

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CatherinedeBourgh · 13/06/2021 12:52

A paediatrician once told me that I shouldn’t worry about a temperature of 38 in a baby, as they are usually hotter than adults.

Thelovelyflower · 13/06/2021 12:52

My temperature is often

Ahnowcomon · 13/06/2021 12:51

I would definitely go back to go and get him checked for a uti (think they are more common in girls but imagine boys also get them) , get ears checked and I can't stress this enough, a good look at his tonsils and throat. Not all tonsillitis is viral and from bitter experience the bacterial type is absolutely awful and doesn't go away on it's own.. you can even try and look yourself with a torch, tonsillitis looks like white/yellow streaks on the tonsils and causes continuous temps. I don't think you are being ott, you can never be too careful with children and either way by going back you'll get some reassurance.

Summersunshine3 · 13/06/2021 12:51

Hey OP the digital reading ones held towards the forehead or neck are the best ones for accurate reading for baby age, in ear isnt as accurate. That being said a temp of 38 wouldn’t give you entry to my DD nursey ans would get you (ie DD) sent home for a PCR test and self isolate. Deffo worth further investigation for me

Dennisreynoldsduster · 13/06/2021 12:50

Thank you. I am obsessing about it, I've felt upset all week and just dread seeing the number on the thermometer but it also feels like a weird kind of safety net to check? I don't know if that makes sense.

@MargaretThursday yes it's the only thing. He's not tired or sick or anything. Upset nappies a bit but that was when he was very drooly and a new tooth popped through. Off his food a little bit but only at lunchtime and in a fussy way (as in won't eat an omelette but will eat rice cakes and a yogurt and any other beige baby junk!) and eats plenty at breakfast, snack and dinner.

@Rosesareyellow yes he's had two covid tests during the duration of this happening both negative.

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Rosesareyellow · 13/06/2021 12:41

Some babies and toddlers get temperatures quite randomly, it’s a body response to all sorts and they are often fine in themselves. I agree it’s nothing to worry about. Put the thermometer away there’s no need to check this frequently unless they are actually ill. Ear and forehead thermometers are crap anyway - I always get two different readings depending on which ear.
Besides, aren’t you still supposed to get a Covid test with a temp? Did the gp advise about that?

imaginethemdragons · 13/06/2021 12:38

With him…as in missing the enjoyment in him as a person, growing up happy and heathy not wasting your time on this negative upsetting focus.

imaginethemdragons · 13/06/2021 12:37

Oh Dennis it’s completely understandable, but honestly, you do need to talk to someone about this focus because it’s going to dominate the utter utter joy that you are missing with your little fella and you will bitterly regret wasting your precious time with him.

MargaretThursday · 13/06/2021 12:36

Is that the only thing?

I'm asking because ds had some sort of illness when he was 8yo where every afternoon his temperature came up, he vomited and he was really tired. I'd pick him up from school before lunch and he'd fall asleep in the car on the way home, level of tiredness.

This went on for about 3-4 months. The GP was concerned, but the tiredness mostly, so he had a number of tests from bloodtests through to MRI (due to headaches) and nothing was pulled up. We're several years down the line now, and I don't think it was anything more than post viral.

We were taking his temperature a few times a day at one point because the paediatrician wanted to see if there was a pattern. It didn't really bother ds at all-in fact he got quite interested himself in seeing his temperature go up and down. (and he's also fascinated by blood tests too Confused)

whatnow41 · 13/06/2021 12:35

My DS has always run hot. He has sensory issues and could never tolerate the texture of calpol, so we struggled to keep his temp down when he was younger. I had a rule that if it went above 40 then we would go to the walk in. Even then, he'd look under the weather but not massively ill and in need of a&e. I wouldn't worry too much if he seems ok in himself, it's when he's off and hot that you should be concerned.

Dennisreynoldsduster · 13/06/2021 12:33

Maybe I need to get help for my anxiety again :( I felt like I was doing the right thing by monitoring it but it seems I'm being very OTT. I just feel so panicky about it.

I don't mean to dripfeed but I had a fair amount of pregnancy loss before him, including having to have a late termination due to medical defects and I think this is where it all stems from. I'm constantly petrified he's going to get seriously ill and I won't realise until it's too late.

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Tinkywinkydinkydoo · 13/06/2021 12:30

I meant teeth not teeth’s Confused Autocorrect fail Grin

Tinkywinkydinkydoo · 13/06/2021 12:29

@Dennisreynoldsduster

He is definitely teething he has four teeth through. But he hasn't been teething the whole time it's been happening
Babies Teethe from about 2 months until all their teeth’s are through, just because you can’t see any breaking through the gums, the teeth are all still moving slowly up towards and hurting them
imaginethemdragons · 13/06/2021 12:27

Again, with kindness, why are you checking his temperature every day?

Can I ask, as I am curious, what do you mean by “treatment “? Do you want unnecessary antibiotics repeatedly? Do you want extra investigations that could be invasive, distressing, and again unnecessary?
If you do, then unfortunately you will be wanting these almost continuously until your child is an adult because he is going to have many many infections between now and then. Plus, no GP or DR will do any of this just to ease your anxieties.

Also just be aware of what you are teaching your child by being so anxious. He can see, hear and sense what you are doing and feeling, you could be setting him up for health anxiety mental health in his future.

Tinkywinkydinkydoo · 13/06/2021 12:27

I got advised not to use ear thermometers, they’re easy to get a wrong reading, if there’s a slight curved ear canal, ear wax or you don’t hold his ear in a certain position it won’t be an accurate reading. Also there’s no need to be checking his temp so much if he’s playing nice and happily , he might just be a warm child. You’re going to drive yourself and your dp and dr crazy checking all the time

Soontobe60 · 13/06/2021 12:26

@Dennisreynoldsduster

The thermometer is fine, it's a Braun one, using the braun covers and new batteries. He's cooler with an under arm, but then under arm reading is cooler and if you add on a degree it's the same as the ear one.

Just everything I have read says 38 fever so I'm confused as to why it would keep happening. He's in the mid 37s normally as far as I can see (that's as far as it comes down during the day apart from at night when it comes right down)

Why are you taking his temperature in the middle of the night? I think you are worrying unnecessarily. www.nhs.uk/conditions/fever-in-children/ This link says that you should contact your GP if your child has a temp over 38 for 5 days or more, or that does not go down even with paracetamol. It also says teething can cause high temperatures.

You say his temp fluctuates - if he had an untreated infection, it wouldn’t fluctuate and he would soon be very poorly, lethargic, signs of dehydration.

Teacupsandtoast · 13/06/2021 12:26

Put the thermometer down. There is absolutely no need to do a daily temp if he's fine in himself....it's summer, it's hot, he's going to feel warm.

Dennisreynoldsduster · 13/06/2021 12:25

He is definitely teething he has four teeth through. But he hasn't been teething the whole time it's been happening

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nicknamehelp · 13/06/2021 12:20

if he's teething I would think it is that. If it was an infection he would be really unwell and not eating etc.

Dennisreynoldsduster · 13/06/2021 12:20

I do the lobe pulling out and up thing as it says in the instructions

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Dennisreynoldsduster · 13/06/2021 12:20

@PlonkyPlink I don’t mean to offend. There is another Gp there who is great but this one is known for being dismissive

Forehead one reads a degree lower.

True I wouldn’t have been looking for it. It’s just making me so anxious that he might have something wrong and it be missed because nobody seems bothered about it

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itsgettingwierd · 13/06/2021 12:17

Ear thermometers can be inaccurate in young children.

You have to pull the ear lobe back and up.

I'd use a forehead one in a young child.

Other than that nursery are unlikely to test temperature in a child who seems well. Plus they won't be touching and kissing as much so won't feel he's a hot bod.

And if they do say something you can always get something from GP to clarify this is normal for him.

fishonabicycle · 13/06/2021 12:17

If you think he has a UTI take a urine specimen to your surger in the morning and get it dipped