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Root canal vs extraction opinions needed

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Gryffindor86 · 23/11/2020 19:47

Long time dental phobe looking advice from dentists and/or people who have been in similar situations. Had a root canal done on a lower first molar on Friday. Found the procedure quite sore and was in a lot of pain over the weekend, tooth was constantly throbbing/pulsating. Rang dentist for advice and they said that root canals are difficult to do and some nerve may have been left behind. Pain hasn't been as bad today but still can't eat solid food or I get a searing pain in the tooth. Rang private dentist who said they could either refer me to endodontist who could redo the RCT (for £800) or they could extract and fit an implant at some point. I'm wondering should I get the root canal done by the specialist and hope for the best or go straight for extraction and save for an implant? Ideally I would like the tooth out and just do nothing but dentist explained that the other teeth could shift and the upper molar could super erupt etc. Has anyone had lower 1st molar out and just left it? Or would my chewing be compromised? Just to complicate matters I also have tmj disorder so I'm worried that extraction could cause even more issues with my bite

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Deedoo · 24/09/2023 08:58

@Piglet89 when you say reinfected do you mean decay

Gryffindor86 · 24/11/2020 16:17

Thank you everyone for the advice. Went to dentist and he suspects the pain is from both the tmjd as well as the tooth settling. He shaved the tooth down a little to correct the bite (as was filled high) so hopefully that will help. If not then I can reconsider the root canal or extraction. He's in favour of keeping the tooth but said extraction wouldn't be a disaster either as my other teeth are in relatively good condition

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TheTeenageYears · 24/11/2020 09:06

If you go down the extraction route then I would recommend something in its place asap. I had a molar extracted in early 20's which left a gap. Between that and wisdom teeth overcrowding 15 years later I had issues. I was told by a dentist outside the UK that a gap should never be left. Ended up with a brace and needed a metal pin to move the roots of the tooth next to the gap which had moved sideways die to the gap. A lot of money and inconvenience plus some pain later all is well but having a gap for 15 plus years did me no favours.

Fantail2018 · 24/11/2020 08:20

I had the lower molar next to my one remaining wisdom tooth extracted a couple of years ago (had cracked it due to teeth grinding and it was painful). Dentist was keen for root canal and referred me to specialist but cost was extortinate and due to grinding I was not convinced it would last.

Extraction was easy and I don't believe it is visible that there is a gap to others. I haven't had any issues with movement (but do wear a night guard due to grinding to prevent further damage).

However in your situation I'd give it a bit more time to settle and possibly get a second opinion before doing anything further.

Nocaloriesinchocolate · 24/11/2020 07:45

I gave no molars on my bottom left side and it has never bothered me at all. Toothache is so incredibly painful (and worse than childbirth as you don't get the incredible gift of a baby at the end) that in your position is have it out.

Lovebuffy · 24/11/2020 07:06

@stayathomegardener

Dd had a root canal at 16 on a cracked tooth. Quote was around £1,200 five years ago for a root canal specialist. I thought it extortionate but actually it was drilled then cleaned and packed three times over three weeks until they were confident enough to fill it and not to trap any infection. Apparently 90% of root canals fail in the first few years. I'd remove unless you are confident in your dentists ability.
90% of root canals fail? What utter bollocks. More like 90-95% of root canals are successful.
DishRanAwayWithTheSpoon · 24/11/2020 06:28

So if hes only finished the first part of the rct discussions of re treatment with a specialist or extraction are irrelevent.

If he hasnt finished the rct if there is some pulpal tissue left he will remove it next time, normally a medication is used in the tooth to settle pain and kill off the remaining pulpal tissue. It sounds like he has dressed the tooth to get it out of pain, it can take a couple of days if you were in pain pre rct. You have finished rct round 1 yet so you dont need to be thinking about specialist re treatment

Piglet89 · 24/11/2020 06:24

@BluePeterVag you poor critter I really feel for you! Toothache is absolutely the worst.

Piglet89 · 24/11/2020 06:23

Upper left 6 eventually extracted after 2 expensive RCTs. It just never felt right and got reinfected; it was a complete nightmare for several months.

It’s not ideal; I have a denture now, but I personally feel better having it out.

BluePeterVag · 24/11/2020 01:51

I’m waiting to get a second molar extraction done. The root is curves so any RCT will be “complex” and cost more. The original dentist that filled the tooth made a bodge job and it deteriorated from there. I paid another dentist for a second opinion on whether extraction is the way forward and they agreed it is.
I have been waiting since Feb due to Covid. I need sedation as it is a complex extraction and the only nhs dentist round here who will do it isn’t seeing patients due to Covid. I cannot afford to pay privately, I just do not have the money. So I am on painkillers for toothache, the nerve was taken out but the infection is still there. Feeling very fed up about it all.

notangelinajolie · 24/11/2020 01:28

Extraction. Root canals cost more, don't last forever and you will end up having them extracted one day anyway. Save yourself some money and get of it.

whydobulliesalwayswin · 24/11/2020 01:20

Tmj can present as severe tooth ache.

Triggered by dental treatment. It's always better to save a tooth.

Had 2 root canals NHS this year. Very well done. Have also had an extraction. Prefer RC to save the tooth.

onetwothreeadventure · 24/11/2020 00:59

I had a root canal on Friday and my dentist said that it would likely take some time for infection to clear and trauma from root canal to subside so it might still be fine. My tooth is still a bit sensitive when brushing or chewing

ParlezVousWronglais · 24/11/2020 00:57

Well if it is cracked you will likely need a crown on the root canal tooth.

I’ve had a root canal followed by a crown as I had a painful cracked tooth. The treatment was painless although long, with only very mild discomfort afterwards. So far so good.

I hope you find someone that knows what they’re doing. From what you say it’s not inspiring confidence although as PP said see if it does settle down. RCT is not 100% guaranteed but most should not fail, at least not for a long time if they’re done by a competent expert. Personally I think extraction should be the absolute last resort.

Gryffindor86 · 24/11/2020 00:35

I'm glad that most your root canals went well @nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut it's given me a bit of encouragement. You've made a good point about it being a traumatic procedure, I hadn't really thought about it but I guess it is fairly invasive. I likely am just being impatient.
Thank you @Mrsmummy90 would really appreciate your DHs input too Smile
@EveryDayIsADuvetDay my dentist said that leaving a gap could cause the other teeth to shift and the tooth above to super erupt which is why he suggested an implant. He said a bridge is an option too but it would mean crowning the adjacent teeth which could potentially damage them.
@madroid Sorry to hear you have sore teeth after getting work done too. Would you have jaw issues also?

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MrsEricBana · 24/11/2020 00:16

I think don't rush into anything and see if it settles. If it doesn't, get original dentist to xray and advise. If they think the RCT hasn't worked I'd get the RCT redone by a skilled endodontist as this is the more conservative approach. I'd only go for extraction + implant as a last resort. I had to have an implant near the back and it is fantastic.

Gryffindor86 · 24/11/2020 00:09

Thanks for the reply @DishRanAwayWithTheSpoon. Although anecdotal advice is great it's always good to get a dentists viewpoint too. I really hope you're right and that it is just post op pain. Maybe I am expecting too much too soon. In fairness the pain has settled a lot since the weekend but literally can't chew/bite at all so living off milkshakes and yogurts at the minute. My bite feels more off than usual and the LL6 and UL6 seem to be touching and tend to clang together when attempting to eat (which is very sore). I agree about continuity of care but my normal dentist is nhs and can be difficult to get appointments at times plus I feel like I've annoyed him a lot recently between the issues with the molar and tmj trouble. Before the rct he had filled the cavity with a large composite filling but I was back a week later as it didn't settle. He has only done the first part of the rct but he seemed quite confident that it should stop the pain. Yes it's definitely wise to ensure it's not tmj pain before making any decisions. My tmj often manifests as tooth pain which is absolutely maddening, not only for me but my poor dentist too. Out of curiosity would a CBCT be able to detect misalignment of the jaw as well as any infection?

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madroid · 24/11/2020 00:07

Definitely don't rush to any decisions yet. I've has several RCTs and they always set all my other bothersome teeth off again. I've learnt to expect it.
@nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut is giving good advice imho

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 24/11/2020 00:02

Had to google to work out where the first molar is.
In my mid twenties, a cap had pinged off several times, so the dentist eventually removed it (third molar, not first).
My wisdom tooth came through and filled the gap.
Wisdom tooth on the other side never came through properly but used to give rumbling pain every year or so. It's given up now.
Ask your Dentist what is likely to happen if yo simply have it extracted - even if it leaves a gap it's far back enough not to be visible.

Mrsmummy90 · 23/11/2020 23:52

My husband is a dentist so I'll ask him in the morning :)

nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut · 23/11/2020 23:50

I've had 4 root canals and only 1 ended in extraction because it was just too weak to support a crown. It was a lower 1st molar and I haven't replaced it and so far everything is fine. My teeth haven't moved much if at all. The other 3 root canals however are all fine too, one of them is 15 years old now and all of them hurt badly for a few weeks after. Couldnt even touch them. Remember teeth are living tissue and a root canal is a hugely traumatic procedure even without the nerve. The surrounding tissue cops it too. If I were you I would leave it alone, get antibiotics if you can, toss back ibuprofen like skittles and don't chew on it at all, clean only very gently over the area. After 2 weeks reassess. If it hasn't at least started to settle then I might opt for extraction but give it a chance.

Shehz21 · 23/11/2020 23:48

Following.

DentalImplant · 23/11/2020 23:29

I had a tooth extracted and are now considering an implant. Does anyone know whether (nearly) every dentist does this? How can one find a good one?

DishRanAwayWithTheSpoon · 23/11/2020 23:25

There will most likely already be infection in the tooth, root canals treat infected teeth

DishRanAwayWithTheSpoon · 23/11/2020 23:24

Did your dentist definitely do the full rct?

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