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Toddler eyebrow/forehead abnormality?

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helpplease2020 · 15/11/2020 12:27

Posting here for traffic & name changed.

My child has unusual eyebrows and a hair whorl on the front of his forehead (like the sort you have on the back of your head).

I went to the GP when he was little and the GP dismissed my concerns as being new mother anxiety.

The only similar eyebrow pattern I could find online was children with trisomy 18:

www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(12)00748-2/pdf

Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned this to the GP - I tried to explain that he obviously doesn't have any of the other severe indicators. He seems fine physically however now at 19 months he isn't really talking apart from the odd word here and there.

He vocalises a lot but sounds not words - he will say a word a few times but then it stops. A few weeks ago, he said mama to me a few times but it has stopped now.

I don't know if the two things are connected - maybe I am just an anxious mother but I am concerned.

I've attached a photo but it is difficult to see as the hair is light.

Has anyone else here ever had a child with a whorl on the front of their face?

Thank you.

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user68634 · 29/01/2024 20:46

Trisomy 18 is Edwards Syndrome. You will probably struggle to have your concerns taken seriously, but it is possible that people have mosaic versions of genetic conditions, where only some of the genes are effected, this can sometimes result in a much milder presentation. Adults can have mosaic down syndrome or mosaic turners for eg and never know, as their traits are so mild. I think it is unlikely you will get a doctor to agree to the detailed genetic screening necessary unless he does go on to have developmental delays or other associated symptoms, I'm not familiar with those for Edwards. Just something to keep at the back of your mind I think?

helpplease2020 · 29/01/2024 15:44

@poopoolala yes, we had a great paediatrician who was ready to do genetic testing but she left and our new paediatrician doesn't seem interested in having the tests done. We have also recently learned that some of my husband's cousins who live in a different country have genetic conditions as well as autism.

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poopoolala · 29/01/2024 15:40

@helpplease2020 I replied under a different name at the time and I can see genetic facial markers and I'm not doctor . I do however have a son with a genetic condition and I see the features everywhere I go.. I'm amazed the medical professionals miss stuff like this .. still!

MirrorBack · 29/01/2024 15:11

One of mine had a similar pattern. The skin grows outwards on the face and marks etc shift away from the centre. Over the year it kind of spread out, faded and straightened, there’s no real sign of it now

helpplease2020 · 29/01/2024 15:03

Hello everyone, thank you for all of your help.

My son was diagnosed with autism and will be diagnosed with ADHD. We are waiting to do genetic testing when he is older because he will not sit for a blood test currently. We have been referred to an ENT as he still struggles with speech and has an underdeveloped uvula. The hair pattern is still there and it looks like he has two eyebrows on one side. He is clever and kind and full of enthusiasm for life - but equally has major meltdowns and demand avoidance.

My advice, trust your gut - I was dismissed for years but now I get "early intervention would have helped so much".

I hope that helps @warmgray good luck with everything.

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Futb0l · 18/01/2024 07:24

Genetic conditions can be quite obvious visually. Ear position is a bit of a giveaway but there are other things.

Its quite normal for people to have funny little hair patterns, birthmarks etc. I know DC with an extra toe! I've known people with some slightly unusual facial hair formations but most adults have had cosmetic treatment to conceal things like this and so you wouldn't notice it.

Your DC is still quite young so i wouldn't worry over much yet about speech.

poopoolala · 18/01/2024 07:04

Did the OP come back ? I posted on this years ago and I could see signs of a genetic condition from her original pics .

I wonder how it turned out .

KnowledgeableMomma · 18/01/2024 01:46

It doesn't look like the photos in your link, and if your child had Edward's/Trisomy 18, you'd definitely know......it likely would have been caught while your DC was still in the womb and if not, you'd be contending with serious heart and lung issues.

If you are worried about worried about the speech (though I think everything you've stated is within normal age for 19 months), go see GP again so they can reassure you.

steff13 · 18/01/2024 01:09

I wasn't familiar with Edward's syndrome so I looked it up. It's a disorder that has a list of some pretty severe symptoms but what you're hanging your hat on here is something with his eyebrows and that he's not talking as well as you think you should be.

warmgray · 18/01/2024 00:51

My child also had marks on his eyebrows from the time he was born. It looks almost identical in the photo. I couldn't find a similar example. I ended up here after looking for it. This is a similar example that I have never seen before. I am not American. How are your child’s eyebrows now? Has it faded a little? I feel like it's getting darker. Please reply. I am using a translator, so please understand any awkward sentences.

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Kiwi33 · 20/01/2021 08:17

My almost 4 year old has a faint whorl directly between his amazingly expressive eyebrows. Your son is fine. My son inherited his daddy’s weird hair genes.

SVRT19674 · 16/11/2020 15:02

My daughter didn´t really speak until 24 months, she is 27 months and is coming on really fast now! It was like at 24 months something clicked. Now you can´t shut her up.

Whattheactual20201 · 16/11/2020 15:00

It’s defo not Edwards syndrome
You would definitely know by now.

GreyishDays · 16/11/2020 14:58

@user68634

Isn't Trisomy 18 is Edwards Syndrome, which I don't know much about but think it is quite serious and has a very short life expectancy? I think you'd surely know by now. Unless they can have mosaic Edwards Syndrome where the condition is milder? How is his development other than his speech?
Yes.

I can’t see how Edwards wouldn’t have been picked up. I don’t think you need to worry about it. It’s really serious, with a mix of cardiac and other issues that get picked up in utero.

DoloresOnTheDottedLine · 16/11/2020 14:01

Have you tried your health visitor? They seem to get bad press on here but mine has been amazing - very knowledgable and has given some really good advice over the years. In my experience, they are good at spotting “normal” and “not normal” and could advise whether they think you should be pushing it with the GP. For what it’s worth, his speech sounds fine to me. My DD didn’t have more than a few words until 20/21 months and then she gradually got going. She’s 2.5 now and doesn’t shut up!

huuuuunnnndderrricks · 16/11/2020 13:37

I say this gently but does he have epicanthal folds too? Is his overall development Inline with the norm? I have a child with a genetic issue so I am quite informed . Sorry but you did ask for advice .

Pythonesque · 16/11/2020 13:28

I don't think the central whorl you are talking about is actually that similar to the trisomy pictures you linked to. In your second picture I think I can see what you are talking about; the eyebrows themselves are probably in the range of normal.

I suspect some abnormal hair growth patterns are common in infants and not that unusual in small children. However, it is reasonable to wonder about it especially if some aspects of his development could be a little behind.

If I were you I would suggest, at some point discuss his language development with the GP. Be open minded - ask him whether it is of concern / when to come back if he still isn't saying xxx by some particular age. (I recall learning 2 words together by age 2; my youngest only just made it or I'd have asked for review at that point).

One BIG caveat - if there are any other minor abnormalities or health problems that your child has / has had, then I would ask the GP whether a clinical genetics referral could be appropriate. I do not think that your child has a chromosomal problem, but there are plenty of genetic syndromes that might be spotted from a couple of physical anomalies combined with health problem X or Y. This would be in no way urgent, and the main utility would be predicting any other issues that should be looked for in the future.

At this stage a developmental review is going to be the most useful thing to set your mind at rest or decide to refer you and your child for support and/or early intervention. But no rush, some time in the next few months sounds fine. The fact that he is doing well physically is extremely reassuring.

Best wishes.

UndertheCedartree · 16/11/2020 13:24

I can see what you mean and yes, it is unusual - I've not seen a DC with that before. Can you speak to your health visitor?

liveitwell · 16/11/2020 13:19

Are you or your OH hairy? He looks like he's developing a monobrow and maybe the whorl is just more obvious as he has dark hair?

GreyishDays · 16/11/2020 13:18

Here I’ve drawn a circle round it. I’m not the OP!

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GreyishDays · 16/11/2020 13:16

It’s the bit above between the eyebrows in the second picture. It’s a whorl.
I’m not sure if it’s a usual thing, though.

How about the speech, does that fall in normal boundaries? You might want to just start with that as a concern.

user68634 · 16/11/2020 13:14

Isn't Trisomy 18 is Edwards Syndrome, which I don't know much about but think it is quite serious and has a very short life expectancy? I think you'd surely know by now. Unless they can have mosaic Edwards Syndrome where the condition is milder? How is his development other than his speech?

Rubyupbeat · 16/11/2020 13:13

His eyebrows look normal to me and one of my sons and 3 nephews have the whirl at the front, it's called a cow lick.

JaJaDingDong · 16/11/2020 13:09

I can see what you mean in that latest photo, but to me it just looks like he has a bit of a monobrow going on. Is he a generally hairy child? And are you or DH hairy, or anyone else in either family?

Pinkdelight3 · 16/11/2020 13:05

That doesn't look so much like a whorl as the inner end of the eyebrow where they start growing in/down/together. It's not comparable to the whorls on the pdf which are all in the middle of the brow and much more unusual. If I didn't pluck the middle bits of my brows they'd not grow the same direction as the rest of the brow, they start curving the other way like your DS's. I wouldn't give it another thought but if the speech development is concerning you, then it's worth pursuing with HV/GP if only to put your mind at rest.