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RealityExistsInTheHumanMind · 08/09/2020 23:15

In living, if we aren't allowed to live.

Human beings are sociable animals. We went into lockdown to save the NHS from being overwhelmed

Yeah, well that happened months ago

I don't see the point in going on any more - government on a power trip. My life curtailed for nothing

Waste of time

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EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 08/09/2020 23:56

@DrTemperanceBrennan

You’re not unreasonable at all OP. Most young people appear to be presenting without symptoms - they are not coughing or sneezing, meaning that, according to Government advice that this is passed on through coughing and sneezing, the chances of them passing it on are minimal.

Three people died of the virus in England yesterday. Three. And while it’s tragic for those people and their families, I can almost guarantee that the suicide rate will far surpass that figure. At some point, the public lost complete control of any ability to assess risk, think critically, or question the official party line. The mental health fallout from this is going to be catastrophic, but as long as the word Covid isn’t involved, nobody gives a damn.

Agree about suicides. This is not a popular opinion on here but I think there will end up being more deaths from suicide, domestic violence and untreated cancer and other illnesses because of this.

How many people are now ignoring symptoms and signs of illnesses because they can't get an appointment with their GP or don't want to burden the NHS because they know how overstretched it is right now? Help for mental health and domestic violence victims is lacking at the best of times never mind right now.

OPTIMUMMY · 08/09/2020 23:55

I’m sorry you feel this way. A lot of people are worried about young people in all of this, some I feel are underestimating the resilience and adaptability of young people. I have to say from my own experience of working with a lot of them they are as others have said upbeat, still seeing friends and having fun. Many feel things are nearly back to normal- they don’t feel their lives are on hold. Those going to school and work aren’t limited to the six people. Maybe you should try and speak to your gp as this seems to be really affecting your mental well-being.

Cocomarine · 08/09/2020 23:54

@RealityExistsInTheHumanMind regardless of the efficacy of masks, please don’t take the burden of young people wearing masks on yourself.

My 12yo wears one willingly. Weeks into this, she’s still taking selfies with it on. Hasn’t complained once. Has quite enjoyed shopping for fancy patterned ones.

No, she’s doesn’t represent every child out there. But she’s not a minority. Most people are coping with the changes. Not everyone, and they, like you, deserve our support. But don’t get it into your head that an entire young generation are having a terrible time, and take that burden on yourself. Some are, like you. Most are doing OK.

DrTemperanceBrennan · 08/09/2020 23:53

You’re not unreasonable at all OP. Most young people appear to be presenting without symptoms - they are not coughing or sneezing, meaning that, according to Government advice that this is passed on through coughing and sneezing, the chances of them passing it on are minimal.

Three people died of the virus in England yesterday. Three. And while it’s tragic for those people and their families, I can almost guarantee that the suicide rate will far surpass that figure. At some point, the public lost complete control of any ability to assess risk, think critically, or question the official party line. The mental health fallout from this is going to be catastrophic, but as long as the word Covid isn’t involved, nobody gives a damn.

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 08/09/2020 23:52

*Samaritans

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 08/09/2020 23:51

@Cocomarine yes I already have the Samiitans number saved. Thank you Flowers.

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 08/09/2020 23:50

@Fairyliz

Those of you saying the op should see a GP have you actually been able to see a GP since this started? What will happen is the GP will speak to the op on the phone for less than five minutes then write a prescription for anti depressants. No other kind of help available everything’s put into Covid 19.
I think it depends on the GP tbh. The last one I spoke to was nice and helpful but that is the luck of draw. Not all are like that.
Cocomarine · 08/09/2020 23:50

@Fairyliz

Those of you saying the op should see a GP have you actually been able to see a GP since this started? What will happen is the GP will speak to the op on the phone for less than five minutes then write a prescription for anti depressants. No other kind of help available everything’s put into Covid 19.
Do you think that isn’t better than doing nothing?
RealityExistsInTheHumanMind · 08/09/2020 23:49

@Hont1986

Perhaps "today's generation" don't really mind wearing masks in shops if it curbs a bloody pandemic.
If wearing masks stopped viruses spreading then kids wouldn't be getting colds the minute the step into schools.

And why the fuck should they wear masks? They are about as much use as the plague masks of the 17th century.

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EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 08/09/2020 23:49

@Lovely1a2b3c my doctor gave me info on talking therapies a few months back but am scared they will just have the same old 'get over it' attitude everyone else seems to have.

What about people with disabilities? I have autism and they seem to change the rules all the time and I don't understand them.

I got told to leave my last job because I was having panic attacks and they kept saying i couldn't communicate properly even though I have autism but they didn't even seem to understand what that meant Confused.

CharismaticVic · 08/09/2020 23:48

Sorry OP, I didn't quite get what you were saying, please ignore my original comment and take care of yourself ❤

Fairyliz · 08/09/2020 23:48

Those of you saying the op should see a GP have you actually been able to see a GP since this started?
What will happen is the GP will speak to the op on the phone for less than five minutes then write a prescription for anti depressants. No other kind of help available everything’s put into Covid 19.

Cocomarine · 08/09/2020 23:46

@EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire

I have been awake until the early hours the past few days in tears and wanting to walk down into the city and throw myself off the bridge. Not sure how healthy that is.
As you know, not at all. Call your GP, and keep the Samaritans number in your phone: 116 123. I’m sorry you’re feeling so bad Flowers
StoneofDestiny · 08/09/2020 23:46

We are very lucky
Older people in the UK had childhoods/teenage years/ young adulthood blighted by polio, whooping cough, scarlet fever, rickets, diphtheria, typhoid fever, rheumatic fever, tuberculosis, smallpox, German measles, flu epidemics etc etc

We have vaccinations and living conditions that combat many of these things now.

Developing countries still battle with diseases we have vaccines for including battling other viruses and diseases - cholera, yellow fever, Ebola, dengue fever, SARS to name just a few.

Most of us are being temporarily inconvenienced to protect ourselves and others. Those who have died would swap places with us.

NellePorter · 08/09/2020 23:46

Please get some help OP. The young people I know are coping well.

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Lovely1a2b3c · 08/09/2020 23:44

@EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire

I have been awake until the early hours the past few days in tears and wanting to walk down into the city and throw myself off the bridge. Not sure how healthy that is.
That's awful EveryPlanetHasaYorkshire- definitely look into therapy- some places are only operating online at the moment but you might be able to get in-person therapy in a crisis like this.
Lovely1a2b3c · 08/09/2020 23:41

@LoveNote

i work with young people......they all seem very accepting, upbeat and open to change
Yes and this ^^- if anything younger people are more able to adapt to a change in circumstances and will appreciate it so much more in a year or two when things improve.
EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 08/09/2020 23:41

I have been awake until the early hours the past few days in tears and wanting to walk down into the city and throw myself off the bridge. Not sure how healthy that is.

Whoknowswhocares · 08/09/2020 23:40

@Hont1986

Perhaps "today's generation" don't really mind wearing masks in shops if it curbs a bloody pandemic.
Well if all it took was wearing a mask to curb it, then there would be no need for new measures.

Lockdown has merely kicked the can down the road. As soon as people mix, cases rise.
People can’t stay isolated forever. Businesses being able to operate properly, in person schooling, general life can’t be put off indefinitely, especially for the younger generations who aren’t really at risk.

No idea what the answer is, but certainly the current plan is failing spectacularly all around the world. Let’s all continue to hope a vaccine turns up, but it might not for years if ever.
What’s Plan B?

Newmumatlast · 08/09/2020 23:40

I dont think you are unreasonable for feeling as you do as this is an odd time and impacts people in doing ways however I don't think its stopping us living and think if you feel as strongly as you do you should speak to your doctor

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 08/09/2020 23:40

@Emmelina

Hopefully the lockdown gave the NHS some knowledge of how to deal with it. It is going to hit harder again as winter comes, so not only will the hospitals be busy with the usual winter illnesses they’ll also have COVID patients flooding the hospital.

Thank your stars you’re healthy for now, OP.

What do you mean by 'healthy'?
LoveNote · 08/09/2020 23:37

i work with young people......they all seem very accepting, upbeat and open to change

Cocomarine · 08/09/2020 23:35

Well, you said “my life”...?
Yes, we’re sociable animals. So if we can’t meet up to pick bugs out of each other’s fur, we congregate virtually on MN.
The situation is not so much that someone in good psychological health should not be able to battle through without talking about suicide pills. I do think you need to get a call arranged with your GP. Don’t feel alone in that Flowers

Lovely1a2b3c · 08/09/2020 23:35

Honestly there are always adverse circumstances in people's lives- at least this is one that other people can relate to.

The point of carrying on living is that there are plenty of things to enjoy in life even during full lockdown and we're not in full lockdown at the moment.

At the moment we are actually free to do nearly every normal activity!