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Found a phone in my garden - isolated property - shit scared

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ScarredBunny · 24/04/2020 19:12

Name changed for this - Sorry if this seem trivial, I know people are dealing with far bigger things at the moment.

I found a phone lying on the ground, about 5 yards from my house.

We live in an isolated property about a mile away from the first road. We have not have any visitors , maintenance people for many weeks (obviously). Delivery drivers, yes, but they would not have any reason to go to this part of the garden/couldn't access it during daytime without us seeing something.
At first I assumed it belonged to one of us, but no! Confused
Phoned the police, have a ref./case number, etc. but they're busy and will get back to us when they can.
The police said to take the phone indoors and wait for their call/visit.

I am worried that the next visit is going to be from whomever the phone belongs to.
The phone is dead as a dodo but I assume it still can be found?

What should do?

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GREATAUNT1 · 30/04/2020 09:09

I too always check the back of the car, they never do it in films & look what happens Shock. The house too, MrGA is amused at this but I’ve always done it.

Could it have been someone who was released from the prison having a poke around prepping for their next job?

The book shall be called iPhone Drop Grin

GnomeDePlume · 30/04/2020 06:40

Sprinklers because it is very difficult to move quickly and quietly with cold, soggy clothes. They also make people jump if is unexpected.

ScarredBunny · 30/04/2020 03:44

Hang on, why sprinklers?

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LilacTree1 · 30/04/2020 01:38

OP

It’s weird isn’t it

I crave proper dark and consider myself much more at risk of everything, living in a rough part of London.

I am going to attempt bed! I hope you get some sleep.

ScarredBunny · 30/04/2020 01:28

@LilacTree1 Cameras - and sprinklers, not too high, pp can crouch. (now imagining someone crawling around the house) Problem his it catches all the animals and then you ignore it, and the you turn it off altogether.
I was going to say why oh why do we have to worry about this, but this must one of the oldest threat known to mankind, Sad, attack or invasion.
The nights are incredibly dark at the moment it's like an inkwell out there.

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LilacTree1 · 30/04/2020 01:22

Oh I’m always up at this time.

When I’m in work, I sometimes have to sleep when I get home!

ScarredBunny · 30/04/2020 01:20

Oh Hi @LilacTree1
Yes still up, no good. What is keeping you up?

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LilacTree1 · 30/04/2020 01:17

Presume someone’s already suggested motion activated sprinklers but I don’t know how high they can be set in terms of detecting a human.

LilacTree1 · 30/04/2020 01:16

OP are you getting any sleep?

Yes I know I’m up 😂
But I’m often up at this time.

ScarredBunny · 30/04/2020 01:15

Replying to your earlier post
@Branster - these people were watching waiting for us to go to bed, that’s what annoyed me most, to think I was out in the garden last thing whilst I let the dog out before going to sleep and someone was watching us I know the feeling, my dog too was barking and standing in
a different way, I hadn't seen it before.

What I find really puzzling and disturbing also, is the fact that if there was someone in that corner I stood about 3 ft away at the most my back to them, whilst I was fkg around with the scarf on the washing line, showing the dog it was nothing to worry about, taking it down.ffs

You know in a film, when someone is hidden but very close, I always thought it was unrealistic, because surely, you'd be able to feel them,
or smell them, or something.

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ScarredBunny · 30/04/2020 00:54

@joosiewoosie - thank you for your concern. Apart from first telling me why they ere her, the police could not have looked more more genuine. I even checked their shoes - no I didn't - didn't cross my mind, but seriously, no concerns there. Really pleased about that, now that you have raised the question; I'll take what I can at this stage Grin

Flowers for bravery to you too, the things left on your bed were a nasty mind trick, in case being burgled wasn't enough. I hope you're ok now about it and I'm sure you have everything in place to minimise the risks of it happening again, you've had to learn the lesson earlier than I had to.Sad

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Summerofloaf · 30/04/2020 00:39

The Phone Leaver

Great title.

JKScot4 · 30/04/2020 00:20

@joosiewoosie
ID from the police? OP phoned them, so what? the phone leaver is tapping her phone and impersonating police officers??
Too far 🙄

Laslow · 30/04/2020 00:10

Wow! This has given me the willies, as my nanna used to say 👀👀👀😱😱😱

joosiewoosie · 30/04/2020 00:05

Omg op, I'm freaked on your behalf. So pleased you've got more measures to deter nasties in place now.
Please forgive me as I don't want to make you question yourself as you've now done all the things you need to to feel safer but, how genuine were the police during their visit? Did you get ID confirmation before giving them a tour? (My suspicious mind went to a worrying confidence trickster entry based scenario, but I'm sure you were freaked enough to be extra wary of this anyway?)
Anyway, as you were. I was very late to the thread and skim reading have seen that this question hasn't yet been asked.
Flowers for bravery! I was burgled when I was a 24 to singleton and they left a hammer and knife on my bed (fortunately I was out) but this stuff reminds me of the fear I had after that for years!

Branster · 29/04/2020 23:27

I believe you JKScott4. My current one is afraid of his own shadow sometimes, he gets by in life through good looks and a chilled personality.

JKScot4 · 29/04/2020 23:11

@branster
You’d be surprised what your dog is capable off, just be glad they haven’t had to.
I’ve been taken aback at mine over the years, quiet laid back and become very protective in an instant.

Branster · 29/04/2020 23:07

Laurie’ theory is very interesting about throwing the phone at or to distract the dog.

I love everyone’s stories about how brave these dogs are but when push comes to shove they don’t necessarily do anything dramatic.

sergeilavrov I wouldn’t dream of going to Lebanon without taking you with me. Very sound advice about guiding potential intruders. Thank you for sharing all this with us. Checking the back of the car is one of those weird things I find myself doing as a driver and passenger from watching too many films but I never told anyone in case they think I’m loosing the plot.

OP be brave and call the police. We want to hear about any updates. If you feel like you are wasting their time, fear not, you can always say you want to ask for advice on home security. That is not wasting their time. It’s saving them time in the future.

TomNook · 29/04/2020 22:33

Oh god I want an answe

Summerofloaf · 29/04/2020 20:12

I know the police are busy but don't think it would hurt to give them a call and ask if they've made any headway with the phone?

Oh yes please I keep popping back here for an update.

Could support the drone theory?

I don’t think that’s very likely these days people need their phone to control the drone.

Is there any evidence of footprints in the ‘dark corner’?

ScarredBunny · 29/04/2020 16:58

@sergeilavrov - Thank you SO much!

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LaurieSchafferIsAllBitterNow · 29/04/2020 16:58

maybe they threw the phone to distract the dog and make their escape??

LaurieSchafferIsAllBitterNow · 29/04/2020 16:56

I do miss my boys for security, but I did forget to regale you all with the tale of the noisy gate and the delivery guy...

I missed the DG knocking at the front, and he had gone to the back gate...it was summer and the porch door, and kitchen door were all open, dogboys were baying like hounds of hell already from the knock at the front, they heard the back gate, it drags over the step and bowled by me to Get There First.

...well the older one did, he was always Head of Security with the younger one taking the role of Personal Close Protection

Only as I get to the kitchen I see DG walking back through the courtyard having dropped the parcel by the inner kitchen door where the older dog is now standing firmly, still barking like billy-oh while obviously waiting and looking for me to catch up and Do Something.

As he heard the gate close he ran out and barked out the catflap.

So all noise and no actual action! :o

sergeilavrov · 29/04/2020 15:23

@ScarredBunny
I’d agree that the loss of the phone and the dog suggest they’re either unsophisticated, it was a particularly late night for the family compared to usual, or it’s an early stage of surveillance. I wouldn’t necessarily assume the person left after the dog barked, possible that the person remained all the time, eventually either able to give the dog a treat/stayed still enough the dog felt it had done his duty and wondered off. It’s not the nicest thing to consider, but I’d keep all options on the table. Because the phone in question doesn’t have night mode, I’d assume it was being used to message someone else or as a recording device. A light would be too obvious and by your description, Insufficiently precise and bright to examine your property.

There doesn’t seem to be much online. In some sense, good, because that can be used by criminals - but also not very helpful for people seeking to protect themselves. I've found a couple of bits and pieces.

(1) Assailants interested in you

www.itstactical.com/intellicom/physical-security/psd-concepts-introduction-and-daily-routes/

www.bigmarker.com/t4survival/Home-Invasion-Preparedness?utm_bmcr_source=Facebook

This has a bunch of pages, all of which are quite informative and along the lines of what is done professionally. Ignore the overblown terms, they just want to seem ‘cool’. There are some webinars out there too, go for ones led by Israelis - they are the best in the business.

(2) Assailants interested in the home

www.homeadvisor.com/r/securing-your-home-from-burglary/

www.familyhandyman.com/home-security/20-secret-hiding-places/

Ignore advice to keep dog bowls in the garden. That opens up opportunities to do harm to your dog. Think creatively about hiding valuables, I developed my own set of hiding places as a teenager and my parents never worked them out. We just hope our children are less devious.

A brief word on motion detection if people are thinking about some bigger investment: Think of your garden as a multilayered security environment: dark corners at the very end, an intruder is likely to be standing. Set motion detection lights/alarms to go off at movement within a specific height range. As an intruder gets close to the house, they’re likely to have limited approach options to avoid detection. They’ll keep low, in the shadows, and away from the open. Use their strategic mandates to your advantage, their lack of choice gives you solid ground to plan your devices. This goes back to what I was saying about dictating the path of an intruder in terms of where they break in and the route they take in the house, using decoys, taking control is also good for your mental health after such an interaction.

Finally, act now. Right now, you have all the motivation you need to get on top of security. If you wait, these feelings will dampen and security becomes something that can be put off until nicer weather, next weekend etc.

ScarredBunny · 29/04/2020 13:44

@YinMnBlue - wouldn't there be a noise with a drone? Also it was so near the house, would have been likely to touch the walls/crash.

@LilacTree1 - Somehow I was still hoping it was a fox! Sorry, I know this is getting tiresome Smile It's just that imo there's no doubt now it really was a person. Yes, they're scared by the dog and we are getting more security anyway, so it's good.

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