Is this osteopath friendly or Pervy?

it does sound a bit weird to me but also is it because it’s his life? Boobs and bras are his business so surely it’s professional curiosity as all these things might be relevant to patients? I guess he doesn’t need to say it out loud though 😂

He is testing your boundaries

it is funny that you think his age is relevant in any way. Men don’t stop being sexual at age 60 or 60 or even 70 or 80. If anything, they are simply more experienced about how to be Percy without doing anything too obvious

talking about his wife’s and daughters breasts is also weird

he probably gets a kick out of your discomfort

some men just like to make you squirm, it’s like a power game…

ALWAYS trust your instincts on this, always

It's normal to remove clothing to underwear when seeing an osteopath - it's worth wearing a substantial bra/croptop and big knickers/tight shorts. If treating your back, then they might need you to undo bra when lying on your front. They should have towels/gowns so only the part being treated is exposed. And as you found out, they can work around if patient wants to leave it on.

The full bend whilst osteopath stands behind you is normal - every osteopath (male and female) I've seen has done that as part of assessment; shows them something useful about how the spine moves.

Contraceptive method might be relevant, depending on presenting symptoms (same for pregnancy)

But his conversation is wrong - why do you/your sisters keep going to someone who talks like a creep? Especially when you've shared your experiences?

I have just had a appointment yesterday with an osteopath a older man 65 asked me a lot of personal questions about whether I am single or not which is not his business or anything to do with why I am there. He discussed using tinder and asked if I can cook and what I would do on a date if I went on one. My sister's have also seen him and they had to remove their tops and he undone their bras! He also asked one which contraception she was on. Then standing behind me asked me to bend down as far as I could which I thought was strange. He did ask me to remove my top and I said no. Also mentioned fantasy in relation to a youtube video where a girl dressed up as her partners fantasy which was Jessica Rabbit and what a wonderful thing for her to do and maybe because I have many piercings in my ears I would secretly like to express my self and dress up. Now I have written it down it seems not right at all.

If you are not comfortable go elsewhere.

50 (I am in my 50s), is young enough to be very aware of what is appropriate and what isn't.

He sounds like a perv. Ask to see someone else and if you are asked why tell them you dont feel comfortable discussing Ann summers underwear during an appointment when you are partially undressed.

Whenever I’ve seen chiropractors I’ve always been given a gown to change into, like a hospital gown. I wouldn’t be particularly comfortable being in pants and bra for a whole appointment.
He should know better than to go anywhere near crossing a line in his comments. I once had a GP who once made ‘amusing’ references to bras and lingerie and I also wasn’t sure what to think, but I wouldn’t have gone back to him for anything involving undressing.

I actually think a lot of sleazy men do this thing where they skirt the very fine line between appropriate and inappropriate chat so women are left guessing themselves and wonder if they are just being paranoid
I wish I could 'like' posts on Mumsnet because this is spot on.

If you go again, insist on a female chaperone.

Complain to the professional body that he's registered with. He sounds as if he needs to be brought up to date with what's acceptable. Best case scenario is that he's become too relaxed around his clients. Worst case scenario is that he's getting off on talking bras. Not acceptable in a professional context unless he's giving practical advice on the best kind of bra to prevent your back/ shoulder pain.

Just ewwwwwww and I've 2 older Male osteopaths and have had to have some quite personal treatment due to long standing pelvis issues.

I’ve taken my top off for the osteopath before, so he could examine my spine curvature and do some massage type stuff on my shoulders which really helped. I kept my bra on though!

I had a very odd experience with an osteopath. Also had to take my top off and once he unclipped my bra without warning. Had me do all sorts of weird things that I was never quite sure were legitimate or not. It was that blurred line where I didn’t feel comfortable but couldn’t say he was doing wrong.

I’m in the south east.

Switch. Have been to quite a few osteopaths over the years in both Britain and Ireland, male and female and never had to remove more than shoes and possibly belt. NEVER had a weird conversation like yours OP - don’t go back

Can we maybe stop referring to some bloke of 50 as ' old, pervy and of another generation?' I mean, WTF? You talk as if he's 90! Using age as an insult is just that

That said, if you feel uncomfortable then switch

I think we have our intuition built in us for a reason don’t we? Is something seems off to you it probably is!

Saying that being in a position of trust... some hospital worker got arrested for sucking a patients toes recently. Says it all doesn’t it!

You aren't over reacting. Think of it this way, if you complain and he is just an innocent chatty guy then he'll be embarassed and upset that he accidentally made you feel uncomfortable and immediately change his ways

If your not comfortable you should change.

However talking about back pain due to bras is completely standard. The first comment steps over the line a bit and talking about his family is not that professional but he may even be talking about them hoping to put you at ease.

Excellent post messolini9 .
So many women telling another woman to ignore her instincts is such a bad look

Not ok.
It's entirely possible for a hcp to discuss back issues without having to reference either his daughter's chest or Ann Summers.
I'd find someone else. Or at the very least take a woman friend to sit in the session with you.

@messolini9 dad isn't an osteopath so not really relevant. But if it did come up with someone then I'd have no issue.

I just don't see it as weird, I think he just sounds like he was making conversation. Something I'd probably say to be honest. No need to be a prude.

My dad isn't sleazy, he can just talk about the female body without sexualising it, unlike you.

He is making you uncomfortable. Change practitioners and ask for a chaperone

Hi. I’ve seen a chiropractor in similar situations. He definitely had conversations with me about bras, size of breasts and handbags; these all impact hugely on the spine. However the conversations felt very fact finding, medical and informative at no stage did I feel uncomfortable. I would have been mortified as a teenager if my dad was speaking about me in that way; the fact that he’s referencing specific people is unusual (and creepy) and something my chiropractor would not have done
Trust your gut. Could you bring someone into the room with you or ask for someone else.