Neighbours and smoking outside

I have exactly the same. My neighbour doesnt smoke in her house but sits on her patio (30ft wide) but insists on sitting right by the fence, two ft from my kitchen window and air vent. She smokes a lot as does her daughter when she visits so they are out for hours or if it is raining every twenty minutes! Shouting and laughing till 3am regularly. The worst bit is the smoke comes into my kitchen and bathroom which are by the fence. I can not have a window open even when it is hot. I can not sit out in my garden. I asked her pleasantly three years ago if she could sit further away from the fence and explained why. She replied that she 'will do what she wants in her own garden, its her guilty pleasure' and shut me down. I am sick of it, I hate the smell of smoke, it makes me feel sick. My only solution is to consider moving as I can not live like this much more.

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My neighbours are the same they smoke outside of bedroom window and the smoke comes in our house in the end up we said to them but they don’t care so we just play music. You’ve got to fight fire with fire because they don’t care. Might sound petty but why should we put up with it .

You've decided that they are going to be unreasonable without giving them a chance to demonstrate otherwise.

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agree entirely my neighbours smoke heavily in our shared porchway this filthy habit shoudl be banned.... they are aggressive and unapproacable and throw their cigarette butts on the front of theri proeprty after being told by police officer not to litter in the road that just about sums them up,,,,having front my door replaced to try and reduce secondary smoke plus continuous phone
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The same here. Having a neighbor smoking heavily since the morning every day...they at least stopped smoking in their house as their partner is a non smoker but having a cigarette by their back door and all the smoke coming into my garden and through the back windows to my house. I asked them nicely to take the ciggie further to the garden and the response was that they can smoke wherever they want as it is their house in quite un polite way. My husband backed them up saying it's their house :( anyway I am shutting windows as soon as I smell it. Was even thinking to start spraying some horrible air freshener around that place when they smoke... :D

I have the same problem, everything was wonderful at our new house, and a month after we moved in we got new neighbors that have destroyed our peace with cigarette smoke ever since. We went through the passive aggressive window slamming phase because there was nothing else I could think of to do. I get an immediate headache when coming into contact with cigarette smoke, and sometimes begin to sneeze uncontrollably. The smoke wafts over to our yard, to the point where we can’t enjoy eating on our deck, or even gardening. Worse it gets sucked into our house when the windows and doors are open, filling the room with the scent, this issue is the most frustrating at night, when smoke fills our bedroom. We can’t just leave our windows shut, through the summer it soon becomes unbearably hot inside, and we moved here for this weather, so it brings me near to tears to lose access to that wonderful air. On top of all that, the smoke also comes through our vents somehow, so even through a freezing winter, when every window is shut tight, our kitchen will fill with the smell of smoke, and we got written up for it on our last inspection. The rental company gave us a first warning this fall to remember that no smoking is allowed in the house, because the inspector “detected a lingering smell of cigarette smoke inside the house.”

I finally wrote a very polite note to the smoker asking if he could smoke around the side of his house where his car is parked: “When you smoke in front of your house, or in your backyard the smoke is easily carried on the wind over to us, so we are hoping that if you stand around the corner of your house, that the smell will disperse somewhat before it gets to our yard. I know this is your home, usually the one place you can do whatever you feel like in peace, and I wouldn’t be bothering you if this was a problem with occasional smells from your property to ours, but this is a constant presence. This affects our everyday life, especially through the coming spring and summer months.” We are not even hopeful that will take care of the problem, but it should help.

When he continued to smoke out front by our property line and in his backyard by our garden, I talked to him, and asked if he got the note. He said that he would try to smoke around the corner, but that he will continue to smoke out front “when I get home from work, and late at night, and early in the morning”. So basically even though his phrasing was nice, his tone was mean, and his underlying message was forget it, I’m smoking right here no matter what you say.

I’ve been searching all morning for revenge, and I think I’ve got it. I can set up a battery powered fan on a little table, spray some nasty liquid on it, then turn it on toward his smoking spot. If he starts up a conversation about it, I can politely tell him that if he was around the corner of his house he would not be able to smell it as bad! :D

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I dont think your being unreasonable to ask they could just move a little further down the garden couldnt they,

Sounds like your on a hiding to nothing though.

I think some people will get the rage if you tell them what to do, some will get the rage if you ask them nicely, some will get the rage if you use passive aggressive methods, you won't know what will rage your particular neighbour unless you deal with the problem they are causing.

I think if it was me, I would go with the idea of placing a small fan by the window and when they smoke, blow the smoke away from the house. I don't think that is passive aggressive, I think it is a sensible solution.

I definitely think that a polite friendly conversation explaining the problem & asking nicely if they would smoke at the other end of the garden would work FAR better than loud PA comments & window slamming.

We have neighbours that smoke. it wafts into our house but doesn't bother us too much. why? well we have massive pot head neighbours the other side. that stuff comes into our house when the windows and doors are closed. my kids bedrooms reek of it. and it doesn't dissipate the same way cigarette smoke does. when we can smell the ciggie stuff we know the pot heads are giving it a rest!

I feel your pain. We have NDN who smoke outside. In this weather we either swelter with the windows shut or our house is full of their smoke. It particularly bothers me as I have a newborn and a toddler.

I am always tempted to take revenge e.g. letting DS play with his musical instruments at 6am the morning after NDNs have kept us awake all night. But as I have to keep reminding myself we have other neighbours who are not horrid and anti social and it wouldn't be fair on them.

Smoking is inherently selfish. They are doing something that will probably kill them. That means children/friends/parents caring for/worrying about someone who is terminally ill, grieving them, dealing with them choosing to die before they need to by smoking. If they are not bothered by this they are not likely to be bothered by being bad neighbours.

Yes electric but its also about smoking in close proximity to children which people are doing even if they are smoking next door, they smoke by their back door and your dc get their smoke.

smoking people need to realise its an issue and need to be made to think about their actions.

dont ask them to move away from the house, let them sort out how they will solve the problem, just say its bothering you.

this comes from an ex smoker who smoked without realising the impact, and as a now non smoker who had a smoke problem next door that was solved by exactly my own advice.

Not unreasonable to ask them to move further away from the house, but unreasonable to expect them not to smoke in their garden at all. I understand it's annoying, but passive-aggressively slamming windows isn't necessarily the best way of resolving the issue (sorry if this sounds harsh but personally I really prefer it if someone wants to change a situation if they speak up and explain what the problem is rather than being huffy and expecting the other party to telepathically realise what is going on).

Get some horrid smelling incense and start burning it every time they come out to light up.

I'd be full of rage and have bought a big bleapin fan, directed at their garden and would turn it on every time they went out to light up.

Place fans at your window facing out
It will blow the smell away .

aha, the invisible curtain thing. And a smoker here has actually said as much. They all believe that there is a magic force field that means as long as you have one foot outside, the reek won't come in to the house. Scary what the stuff does to the brain. For most of us it is BLOODY OBVIOUS THAT SMELL TRAVELS.

explain politely that the smoke is drifting in and you would appreciate it if they moved away from the house.

Or the advert is suggesting smoking outdoors or stopping.

But the advert about smoking is, I think, asking people to smoke outdoors .

While it isn't lovely it still isn't illegal to smoke but I do think having a calm conversation about how much it is affecting you is the way forward.

dont tell them where to move, thats not your concern or problem and not your business.

simply say in a really nice way - that you are soooo sorry to mention this - and you wouldn't say anything if it wasn't becoming such a problem but that the smell of the smoke is really bad and its badly affecting you in hot weather. Would it be possible to smoke away from the windows, or waft it away.

I think many people are affected with smoke drift and I think contacting one of the smoking charities to complain about it may help them realise the extent of the problem or the dept of health.

Personally i think ads should come out about it - like the one at the moment on people smoking by the back door.