Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

They're in the process of morphing into the Muslim Brotherhood, green is the colour of the prophet. It's like the alien that burst out of John Hurts chest. 😱

Meanwhile, in Oxford.

The problem with trying to normalise extremist factions on right and left is that the extremists are only too happy to reiterate that they really did mean whatever they said, particularly when they know they are in charge.

Fall out continues.

Apparently dimwit Hannah Spencer posted a video a couple of days ago boasting that Palestine Action didn't protest outside Green party conference... I wonder why that was? It's now naturally being madly circulated.

There's rumours that all five current Green MP are
"Considering their position within the Green Party". Caroline Lucas is also apparently doing the same. The expectation is that some (I'm not sure which) will follow through and become Independents. The LDs are also trying to recruit them apparently.

Camden Council had announced a cross party climate change taskforce. It's not happening now as both the Lib Dems and the Tories won't work with the Greens.

The Jewish Chronicle did a Freedom of Information request for from the Metropolitan Police. This reveals that at 12.50pm on Oct 7th 2023 The Palestine Solidarity Campaign put in a request to organise a national march against Israel. This was whilst the attack was ongoing before Israel did anything in response. This isn't a great look for the Greens given the heavy involvement of certain individuals with Palestine Solidarity.

There's a pro-palestinian march due today. Which obviously is very sensitive. The policing of this is going to be really scrutinised. There are worries that there may be a repeat of the trouble we are seeing in France. It will be interesting to see the involvement of the prominent Green entryist. Let's hope it passes peacefully without trouble.

The Lebanonisation of Britain is under way
What I am describing, for want of a better term, is the Lebanonisation of Britain, our transformation from a country into closed-off, inward-looking clusters of cultures, ethnicities, religions, and other characteristics that unite rather than divide a nation which refuses to enforce its borders or require integration and deference to national norms and conventions from those settling here, whether legally or otherwise.
https://archive.is/u2suK

Starting to look like there could be a party split/ Cornwall, Bristol, Wales now Norfolk.

Norfolk Greens refuse to back 'Zionism is racism' vote

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/26612544.norfolk-greens-refuse-back-zionism-racism-vote/www.edp24.co.uk/news/26612544.norfolk-greens-refuse-back-zionism-racism-vote/

The Greens have upset the Guardian. Great barometer of when lefty UK thinks you have gone too crazy.

The Guardian view on the Green party and Palestine: rejecting two states is no shortcut to peace
Editorial
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/oct/06/the-guardian-view-on-the-green-party-and-palestine-rejecting-two-states-is-no-shortcut-to-peace

The party is just a vessel for a form of politics and Jews are a perennial scapegoat for that politics.

What I am describing, for want of a better term, is the Lebanonisation of Britain, our transformation from a country into closed-off, inward-looking clusters of cultures, ethnicities, religions, and other characteristics that unite rather than divide a nation which refuses to enforce its borders or require integration and deference to national norms and conventions from those settling here, whether legally or otherwise.

Yep, 100%, totally agree.

The MPs who aren’t happy about the direction the Green Party are travelling should join the Lib Dems.

I don’t agree with everything they stand for, but their party is strong on the environment, and at least one party needs to be!

Green party representatives in Devon have also been expressing their concern and discomfort online about the vote. They know it’s damaging and I know some are also reconsidering their positions.

If you go on Reddit it’s only the hardliners in the Green subreddit and left leaning subreddits like LabourUK who are supporting. The supporters are complaining that the subreddit is “out of step” with the membership.

Hope he never finds out why the state of Israel was created in the first place; a homeland for Jews to live in safety after the events of WW2.

As ever, the majority of people don't pay much attention to all this. Many members won't even notice there was a conference. I do think the reaction to this motion, and some of the stuff coming out now, will mean some leave. It will also mean some join.

Alas, the Libdems.

I am just as committed to the total dismantling of the Western neo-patriarchal hegemony as the rest of you, so it really is disheartening to see so much infighting on the far left. The Green party really needs to get its act together, its not just an enviromentalist party anymore, it bears the responsibility of all the minority communities of the UK including muslims on its shoulders and should not be courting controversy in this manner.

It's simply not good enough.

As ever, Scotland can offer some useful foreshadowing. See how the Greens up there damaged government. And they are still in power, still just as weird and hardline as ever.

So much as many find it shocking, and expect it to mean those involved lose power and credibility, that isnt necessarily the consequence. For a start a small but consequential proportion of voters are to put it bluntly, Hamas supporters, whether motivated by stupidity or extremism.

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/we-were-dangerously-close-to-being-electable-green-party-explains-20261005269846

On the nose.

Latest polling shows Green support has dropped from a high of around 17% in Spring to 10% today.

https://www.pollcheck.co.uk/polls/green-party/

DH was out with a mate last night who is a Green Party member. He's 23.

DH was rinsing him about it. They both have a good healthy attitude to politics and political differences, so as a rule they do this quite a bit to each other. This was different. Friend isn't happy with the vote at all. He didn't realise he could quit the party. DH set him straight on that.

This guy has been pro-palestinian and anti-gaza war and been vocal about it. This was too far.

"He didn't realise he could quit the party."
Did he think it was a cult or something?

Agreed.

Zac’s relatives fled for their lives from Eastern Europe to settle in the UK following the pograms and felt so unsafe that they even changed their surname to Paulden to avoid being identified as Jewish.

At least when Kemi gives her speech today she knows there's one party who are bombing worse than hers.

Fuck knows.
He's a really nice lad, but boy does he have a lot to learn. He's not culty as far as I'm concerned. He's pretty good on that compared with a lot of men his age. I like him a lot and can actually have a difference of opinion with him.

Tories have remained about level for past few months. Labour have got a Burnham bounce - we will see how that lasts. And Reform are looking in rude health.

Reform should just stay completely silent at this point. Never interrupt when your enemy is making a mistake and all that.

Oh I didn't mean to imply he was culty as an individual, just so strange to not realise political parties can be left as well as joined. Although I acknowledge I also had an awful lot to learn when I was in my twenties, and indeed still do. Glad to know he's got your DH as a friend to provide a voice of experience.

Maybe, but they are as bad as the Greens on women's sex based rights and protections and child gender transition etc