Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

'Mosques endorsed candidates "undercover" during recent by-elections to evade the law, a Green Party official has suggested.

During a fringe panel discussion at the Green Party conference last week, Green campaigns coordinator Asma Alam (pictured, left) said mosques had backed candidates despite being registered charities.

Alam coordinated Hannah Spencer's (pictured, centre) successful campaign in the Gorton & Denton by-election in February.

Charities "must not support a political party or candidate", according to guidance from the Charity Commission for England and Wales.

The National Secular Society, which raised a question about endorsements from mosques during the fringe event, has referred the matter to the Electoral Commission and the Charity Commission.'

Polanski really needs to stay in post to answer these accusations.
Let's see if he has anything close to the Teflon quality of Farage under fire.

Did you get your answer on Entryism @DrBlackbird ?
If not Entryism (in the UK) is a political strategy where smaller or extremist groups infiltrate larger parties, historically most notably within the Labour Party, to influence policy and leadership. It still goes on and there's debate about TU's which might explain the TRA take over. In Europe it's been taking place with regards to Russia and Islam. It's not a new concept but is rising up the 'oops' list

Thanks @highame I’ve not heard of the label but the concept is interesting. I can see how it could be both deliberate and calculated but also with room for the entryism to be organic and evolving out of which sort of people are going to be obsessive about an agenda vs a majority who have lives to run.

What distinguishes entryism is specifically that the cuckooing group maintains the distinct and often secret, separate identity, membership list, leadership and structure from before the take-over while its members join the victim organization. The entryists retain their loyalty to the entryist organization rather than to the organization they are joining, and follow the entryist leadership instruction deliberately to subvert from within.

If its organic, it’s not entryism.

From Daniel Sugarman on X

Green MP Sian Berry has released a statement this morning in the wake of the Holborn & St Pancras result.

It says that because of the by-election, "many of us" were persuaded "not to campaign publicly" against the Zionism is Racism motion.

Absolutely Damning.

Her commitment to speak up against antisemitism is for sale in exchange votes.

The statement:

https://x.com/Daniel_Sugarman/status/2108515558572392558

Shown to be grifters just like other parties that they so decry for being, um, grifters.
When is the first high level resignation going to happen? Surely it must, and soon?

Sian Berry is absolutely vile.

Burnham cannot believe his luck.
He can now claim the moral high ground by saying he won't ally with an antisemitic party, no matter what their policies or number of MPs after the GE.
That, together with natural revulsion at what the party now stands for, will squeeze their voters to Labour.
Since Ed Davey will do anything for his pal Andy, Labour has LDs in the bag re any necessary coalition.
Badenoch won't be quite so lucky, she won't get the benefit of her "we won't deal with <that!>" declaration re Reform in her speech at conference.
So, Burnham benefits from an imploding Green vote, a LD vote in his back pocket, and a totally riven Right opposition.
Burnham is getting the kind of luck in politics we've seen in the past.
Thatcher benefitting from the anarchy of The Winter Of Discontent.
Blair benefitting from Major fumbling the economy and his ministers playing away.
Johnson benefitting from the spectre of Corbyn and Farage standing down The Brexit Party.
Now it's Burnham's time to be lucky, Polanski and Badenoch & Farage tearing strips out of each other, all so obliging

He used to deal with upset in GPEW meetings by leaving.

I guess thats exactly what he did wrt the conference.

We will see if he can keep running away forever.

I think his ego is far more fragile than Farage's, fwiw. He isnt able to handle dissent, generally gets very ragey, and then fucks off. So we may get a spectacular flounce.

Maybe when he quits/is pushed, the party can show their gratitude to his pivotal role in making them anti-semitic, by installing "safe spaces" at exits from where people meet and argue and make decisions, for those who struggle with having to put their case and accept compromise, and call them Polanski Pods.

Another prime example of political luck is Thatcher benefitting from the Falklands War. Before the war her polls were in the doldrums & it didn't look likely the Tories would get re-elected.

He only has to be asked about hypnotits for him to lose his rag. A prime example was Hadley Freeman at the by-election hustings asking the question "If I voted for him, could he promise to make my breasts bigger?"

archive.ph/iSH1T

They keep calling Burnham another Wilson, but a better comparison is surely Sunny Jim, everyone's favourite Uncle Jim, James Callaghan.
He was about from the mid 70s, and his optimism and easy everyman charm ran rings around Thatcher. He even survived the IMF bailout. He even got the Liberals on board with the Lib Lab Pact. Thatcher had no answer to him.
But his luck eventually ran out.
Today feels <so> mid 70s.

That’s amazing. Thank you for posting! Hadley is awesome 🤩

It absolutely is remember that analysis of the 30000 Bluesky posts he liked?

He seems to actively vanity search references to him and if he finds something disparaging about him he sends his crazed Zackists after them

Sounds very similar to the Green politician in German, he actually employs a team of 3 to search every SM outlet looking for any remarks about him, then he sets the police on them if they're even sightly critical because in Germany it's against the law to criticise a politician.

Why is it always the Greens.

All politicians sort of do this when they get into parliament. She’s not as caught up to National / International norms as she thought, obviously - as she presumably thought anti Semitism was a vote winner.

I did enjoy the claim that the entryists didn’t have to focus on the by election, so they could go more “full time” on their proposal.

Campaign for anti-Semitism
Green Party disciplinary committee member reportedly admits she was “naive” to oppose Hamas.

The @DailyMail has revealed that Halima Brewer, who was elected onto the Green’s disciplinary committee at their conference last weekend, has posted concerning rhetoric online relating to Hamas and Israelis. In one post, she reportedly said: “I used to oppose Hamas because I thought their strategy for freeing Palestine was counterproductive. I have dropped that naive view and now think the only thing Palestinians have left is violent resistance against the bigger terrorist – the biggest of all now – Israel.”

Ms Brewer’s alleged remarks are reflective of a broader trend of extremism which is not only excused in the Green Party, but is allowed to flourish.

How is the Green Party expected to be held accountable for its abominable ‘Zionism is Racism’ motion, when individuals spewing hateful rhetoric are able to sit on the Party’s disciplinary committee?

This raises serious questions over the ability of the Party to safeguard its members – including Jewish members.

72% of British Jews think that the Green Party is too tolerant of antisemitism, according to our polling. Stories like this only confirm the community’s bleak perception of the Greens – which is precisely why we have referred the Party to the EHRC. We will not stand idly by as extremists hijack a political party and make antisemitism its openly stated policy.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16194063/amp/Green-activist-said-naive-oppose-Hamas-handling-party-discipline.html

This is similar to the LDs with trans stuff which Natalie Bird effectively fell victim to.

https://x.com/treesey/status/2108522884075335859
Teresa Smith AT treesey
Here’s Halima Brewer speaking in February.
Now sitting on the Green Party disciplinary committee as of last weekend. (Per @sophiealichurch)
“The Holocaust was real…but it’s not particularly special…”

Dan Sanderson AT DSanderson_86
Scottish Greens co-leader won't say whether he thinks it acceptable to use the term "Zios", widely seen as a racial slur for Jews.

"We're getting into points about language... the most offensive thing is the systematic murder of an entire people."

Reminder. Language always matters.

Islington councillor Benali Hamdache on SkyNews said he thinks a "one state solution" - no Israel - would be an acceptable solution.