Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

One in York around that time I think as well.

Didn't one of the Kings expel all Jews from Britain back in the 13th or 14th Century.

Massacre of the Jews at York Tower in 1190; formal expulsion 1290; informal readmission of Jews to England under Oliver Cromwell's interregnum, in the 1650's.

Obviously this predates the IDF and Gaza.

Thanks @RedToothBrush

He's doubling down.

And just reposted a link to this

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/zack-polanski-nigel-farage-poll-popularity-greens-reform-b3062640.html

I really fucking hope they don’t get to join the next government.

You can bet that the GP activists will be very keen to get their voters out.

At least, then, all pretence of being an ecology party will be well and truly over. Bring it on.

Glad to see my club at the top there.

😱

Ah sorry, I agree with you, the hazards of multitasking…

I think Zac Polanski’s critics are trying to paint him as untrustworthy by suggesting he may have misrepresented his family’s connection to the Holocaust.

To me, it makes little difference. His family will have experienced violent antisemitism in some form regardless, and that lived experience should be acknowledged and respected.

What troubles me is that this line of attack seems to exploit a lack of public awareness about the long history of European antisemitism. Most people are familiar with the Holocaust because it has been widely depicted in films, literature and education. There’s far less awareness of the pogroms and other anti-Jewish violence that scarred Europe long before the Second World War.

Of course, politicians should be subject to public scrutiny, and Polanski is no exception. But it doesn’t feel right to try to discredit someone by forensically picking apart their family history, especially when the broader reality of persecution is so well documented.

Tackling the climate crisis is one of my highest political priorities. But unless things change substantially within this party, I can’t see myself voting for it. Politically I’m homeless.

Same - quite aside from this regarding Zionism, I can scarcely believe that the Green Party constitution allows the grassroots members to make party policy without any checks or balances. It’s madness - it was no doubt well intentioned but it is staggeringly naive and makes the party so vulnerable to capture.

See also how they’ve persecuted women for thoughtcrime.

I would love this. Serve them right, the patronising Greens who refused to debate twaw during local elections. They are now considering their membership. Love it

It would test 'transwomen for Palestine' as a concept...

Hopefully the FoxBasher will offer his support and legal guidance (ahem) That'll be the final nail in the doubtless nonsustainably sourced coffin. It usually is.

I think Zac Polanski’s critics are trying to paint him as untrustworthy by suggesting he may have misrepresented his family’s connection to the Holocaust.

I think they showed he was a liar.

To me, it makes little difference. His family will have experienced violent antisemitism in some form regardless, and that lived experience should be acknowledged and respected.

People in his family tree might have, he didn't, he's just cashing in on their suffering and using it to claim some invented 'victimhood' for himself.

He's a conman, a fraud and an grifter, if you think a party run by him is going to do anything about the climate then you've wasted any votes you've given them, the greens haven't mentioned the environment for years.

As I predicted!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cme3x1kg8y2no

Defection Green to Tory.

https://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/news/politics/council/tynemouth-councillor-who-quit-labour-joins-green-party-9270434

Detection Labour to Green.

A big failing of the Left is assuming the best of everyone. Founding principle, really. And leaves them totally vulnerable to bad faith actors. On a societal scale, its not hard to see how cataclysmic this could be.

I reckon this might be tolerated in an Iranian style basis.

I’d say they assume the best of everyone they perceive as broadly in their tribe. Other people (tories, “terfs”, “Zionists”) not so much.

It’s an example of his deliberate dishonesty in order to present a more sympathetic image. Clever liars do base their lies on a kernel of truth.

As a politician he has shown himself to be inconstant, duplicitous and cowardly. There’s not much constructive to say about him. Even his green credentials are practically non-existent.

And from the reaction to even the mildest unease at the vote, the criteria by which those are excommunicated into this Outcast group is very elastic.

On the Widdecombe thread I mentioned the concept of stochastic terrorism. Create an outside group then demonise them etc voila

YY.

Labour councillor photographed with replica gun defects to anti Jew Greens.
I mean, you couldn't really make it up.
Let's hope it's a vegan gun.
But in a moment where Jews are just that bit more worried about things right now, a replica gun toting loon is joining the Zionism Is Racism party.

It's like musical chairs. 🥁