Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Some Greens seem to think they should be hunted down like Nazis, and some Greens seem to think that everyone will live together in harmony. It's not clear if people in the Green Party have met each other.

I really would like the people who voted for this motion to explain what they mean by it.

The rainbow polycule faction seem just as rabid as anything the Gaza Bros can come up with. A quick check on stats 4 Lefties reveals elation on Bluesky

https://bsky.app/profile/leftiestats.bsky.social/post/3mx2qsg2xss2z

They'll all live happily in the new Palestine just like white south Africans did in post apartheid south Africa. And anyone who objects is a Zionist bot

Well, they aren't hiding it anymore, are they?

'BREAKING: The Green Party has voted to support the abolition of Israel, and to replace it with a single Palestinian state. The motion, passed by members at its conference, declares that "Zionism is racism" and commits the party to opposing the existence of Israel full stop.'

Elliot Foran shilling for Mothin Ali is All Kinds of Special

Zack rejects his rejection.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjy56yxxwy3po

Seems we've come a long way from the 80s, making Brent a nuclear free zone, and changing "chairman" to "chair".

Says the man who's just excluded GC women stating their case at conference.

They've already passed a resolution to drop their opposition to nuclear power.

If it's the Bad type of entryism they might do one to try and cut immigration and Stop The Boats

I'm with them on nuclear power.

Oh, Ross wants to chip in, because of course he does.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm17k0q49nklo

'Asked if he considered Zionism to be racism, Greer answered: "Yes."
He told BBC Radio Scotland Breakfast: "You cannot give superior rights in law to one ethnic or religious group. Everybody has to be treated equally before the law, and the reality right now is that that's not the case.
"One group's superiority has got to the point where a genocide is being committed against another group.
"I want Jews, Christians, Muslims, Israelis, Palestinians, everybody to live equally in safety, in peace."
He added: "Jewish people deserve to live in safety, but the creation of the state of Israel was an act of ethnic cleansing.
"It was an act of racism, and I don't understand how how people can say it wasn't."'

About 'where are Israelis supposed to go'. Israel is one of the most ethnically diverse countries. Ethiopians, Sudanese, German, Italian, Spanish, Druze, Ashkenazi along with Arabs which includes Palestinians, who are obliged to join the IDF and do not object.

He added: "Jewish people deserve to live in safety, but the creation of the state of Israel was an act of ethnic cleansing.

I hope he never finds out about the creation of Pakistan. He's going to be horrified.

Or how Scotland (or any other country in Europe) established its borders.

Well indeed, but around 1.25 million people hold dual British-Pakistani citizenship. They can actively participate in Pakistani elections, they can even stand. All parties in Pakistan support the continued illegality of homosexuality as far as I'm aware. There is widespread persecution of religious minorities. Forced disappearances are rife, particularly in Balochistan. Compare that to fewer than 300,000 Jews in the UK most of whom do not hold any type of Israeli citizenship.

And yet it is the Zionists who must recant. If a party started to apply the same conditions to British-Pakistanis, indeed anyone who supported the right of Pakistan to exist, the supporters of the motion would soon be able to spot the racism.

It's purity spirals, student politics and pabdering to the Islamic vote in some constituencies.
The result is this stinking mess.
The Lib Dems are nearly as bad for mysiogny and R parties (Reform, Review, Revive?) on the right are gunning for neo-liberalism with a side order of racism.

I used to think electoral PR was a good idea, but given how insane the smaller parties are, I'm backing away from it now. At least with first past the post you've got to get a broad consensus.

The main problem with our PR system in Scotland is voting for the party, rather than any specific person, I think. It means you cannot vote a person out.

Someone else pointed out that Zack is the second high-profile politician to move from the Lib Dems to lead another political party, and subsequently help it implode. Liz Truss being the first.

Boaty McBoatface had me questioning the wisdom of PR.

The Pak in Pakistan also stands for the land of the pure. It used to be a thing that when it was used as an offensive term you'd retort that "actually you're calling me pure.."

And I'm not even going to go into how they reacted to the independence movement in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh)

Is this an ok time to point out that the state of Jordan was created in 1946 (two years before Israel) on 80% of British Mandate Palestine as a sovereign Arab nation with a majority Palestinian Arab population?

I am always amazed at how history begins in 1948, for some people.

"What's yours is mine, and what's mine is my own."

The very country that shares a border with the West Bank, and has kept it's border tightly sealed, because even their closest relatives don't want anything to do with them.

I think Syria was created at the same time, perhaps they all need to go.

Who would have thought the Lib Dems were capable of such schadenfreude

https://www.politics.co.uk/2026/10/you-are-welcome-lib-dem-mps-urge-greens-to-defect-after-zionism-is-racism-vote/

“Not you Zack”