Article on the threat to UK women from Afghan immigrants

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"The statistics clearly show that Afghan nationals pose a disproportionate threat when it comes to sex offences. Last year, Sky News’s data and forensics unit – using annual population survey data from 2021 and Met Police figures – found that, for Afghan nationals, there were 59.2 sexual offence charges per 10,000 across England and Wales. The corresponding figure for UK nationals was 2.7 offences per 10,000 people."

https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/08/17/we-need-to-talk-about-afghan-sex-offenders/

The Spiked article actually misrepresents the Sky article, which does a deeper dive into the data and concludes "Our estimates conclude that Afghans are closer to three times more likely to be convicted of a sexual offence than someone born in the UK". NB though age is mentioned, i.e. recent migrants are more likely to be young and criminally active, neither seem to analyse sex, though it is mentioned in Farage's figures - there must be more male immigrants than female; presumably this has been taken into account?

More and more I find the threat, especially to women, troublesome and worrying. To generalise, the Left view all immigration as all fine and dandy; the Right disagree and want it reduced or stopped. On the other hand, Burnham's proposal to place asylum seekers in middle-class areas implicitly shows that he knows that they are problematic: "We cannot have a situation where it's only the poorest communities in the country that receive all of the dispersal of refugees and asylum seekers." If the refugees and asylum seekers are beneficial to the UK, which is promoted as the Left-wing view, then he would be saying that the rich/middle class areas will benefit from his plans, rather than saying they need to share the burden. "Blackpool, and other communities ... have had to take more than their fair share of asylum seekers," she [immigration minister Anna Turley] added. "That's put a huge burden on local communities and created real civil unrest." www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c204d4z1gg8o

TL:DR Are male immigrants, especially illegal ones, a particular threat to women, and if so what can be done?

Well, you've worded your question in a manner that makes it impossible for me to give an adequate answer to. Given how the scientific institutions in this country are overwhelmingly white supremacist, the data for why white British men are dangerous than any other men is simply not available to me.

However, just ask any other woman on this site and they will readily tell you that the vast majority of men who have interacted with them in a negative way have been white British men. I grew up in the 80's in Kendal and it was always white British men who were misogynistic and rude to me. You will no doubt know this yourself, unless you are some paid Russian bot of course 🤔

@MarcTheGenderSkeptic it isn’t about their view

I’m totally willing to accept that other people have different views to mine!

some people think they’re being funny… some people think they’re being satirical, at some point it just crosses over into undermining an important topic.

I’m not going to accuse anybody. I think we may have more than one on this thread, but possibly one of them is serious.

we finally got this on the feminist board, it seems a shame to spoil it.

"...white supremacist", right. Kinda hard to carry on having a discussion. Like the last decade of calling Right voters as bigots, Nazis and fascists.
And the Left feel they have the moral high ground to win this argument.

Currently they're barred from even applying for jobs, with the only option being given housing and upkeep for free.

I'm proposing they should apply for jobs alongside everyone else, rather than being "given" a job. Then pay for their upkeep with wages they earn; if they don't manage to get a job, that's it, they slum it... then they'll leave again like the vast majority of the men who swam to Ceuta.

I just have this old fashioned view that able bodied men shouldn't get housing and food for free.

If there aren't enough jobs and/or no employers want them, too bad.

Make yourself employable or leave.

@Kingdomofsleep but then we’ll just end up paying for them to be helped to apply for jobs…. I cannot see how this is helpful.

And I would hope most people wouldn’t want to employ them.

"If having empathy for people fleeing war and persecution somehow ends in another woman's death, I will gladly offer her up for the cause."

Doesn't sound quite so high-minded now, does it?

I have this old-fashioned view that we should enforce borders, but apparently the powers that be don’t agree with me.

Why not really?

Do they not understand the word 'no'?
Are we supposed to accept that in their culture its OK to be a sex pest?
Do they got get taught what is acceptable when they are going through the application process or is it simply that they wish to find out what they are 'entited' to without learning what WE expect of them in return?

On all this I would do as Aus does and stop arrivals but introduce humanitarian visas. That means you can check everyone, only give visas to a capped amount and treat them better on arrival including the ability to work.

It could be 10 to 20k women, or families. It would vastly reduce risk and we could still offer some refuge.

Same. If we did that we could be choosy on who gets refuge.

In 1980s Kendal, I doubt that there were many if any men who were not white British so they would be the ones who were misogynistic and rude to you.

The current position is that they are housed and dined for free, with zero expectation of any contribution in return.

I just can't stand this idea that it's somehow cheaper just to feed and house an able bodied man than to help him get a job and contribute to society. By this I'm including local men. Youth unemployment is a problem partly because it's considered a waste of money to help someone get a job.

It's always, always better for a young man to be in honest employment. Better for him and for everyone else.

Ceuta is an interesting example of what happens when we don't give irregular arrivals ample free housing and food. (In their case this was because the resources got overwhelmed.) The thousands that arrived, nearly all left again.

I'm proposing that that could work here; obviously I wouldn't want anyone to starve but they should be charged money for their upkeep. If they can't afford it initially, it should be a debt to be worked off, by, well, working.

You know there is an alternative you don't want to consider, but millions will.
That's no bed, board or job. But a seat on a plane out of the country within a week of washing up here.

It might be cheaper in the short term, lettIng them work, it does provide an incentive for more to come looking the work, which will be unsustainable in the long term.
Why create a powerful pull factor?

I never said I wouldn't consider that. You must be thinking of someone else.

The numbers involved in this year's Ceuta episode are extreme. I'm not sure they teach us anything except that coordination on social media and momentary neglect of borders can cause absolute mayhem very quickly. It is simply not feasible that provision could be made at a week's notice to housecand feed a group of people 75% the size if tge existing population.

It's far more of a pull factor to give them everything they need for free, with months of leisure time to roam the streets.

The pull factor is already alive and strong.

It's not easy to get a job. The requirement to have to pay for your upkeep would quite obviously be a less attractive option than getting it for free.

Every word of this

I still
think that the message Come here and get a job will open the floodgates.

There are thousands of young single men coming from countries and cultures where women have no rights, there is no concept of sexual consent and they believe that white western women are all easy.

given that it would be surprising if this group was NOT over represented in sexual crimes.

successive governments have completely failed UK citizens, but particularly women and girls. Labour claims they want to halve VAWG, but continuously lets in men who are disproportionately likely to commit it.

Positive messaging about the contribution of immigrants who are working in the UK in the NHS, social care, education, hospitality etc should be pushed as one way of toning down the racist rhetoric from the right.

This is a genuine question, I don't know the answer: how many of our doctors and nurses, and teachers, came here on small boats?

I am a teacher, and a naturalised British citizen. I did not come here on a small boat, I came as an EU citizen before Brexit. I have never had any free housing or meals. I had to pay nearly £2000 altogether to pay for my naturalisation and first British passport.

I don't think many people lump all immigrants together. Irregular arrivals are just not the same as regular ones.