Owen Jones on Facebook

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‘If trans women use men’s toilets, they will be subjected to humiliation, abuse and violence.

Anyone with any sense knows this.

Which is why in practice trans women will not use men’s toilets, and will just increasingly be driven out of society.’

let’s just drive women out of society then eh? Because the same stands for women having to share with men in dresses ffs

have I missed something btw? Seems a random
post for a Sunday morning

Omg he's lowering himself to FB. How very dare him and his activist credentials.

He’s engagement farming/trying to position himself as the gay man’s warrior and stay relevant, all while enjoying expressing his spite about women. Same old, same old in fact.

This seems to be the latest line in propaganda - telling women that trying to defend women's rights is pointless because it only makes it worse for women.

Where were all these hordes of poor wronged women-who-really-can't-be-distinguished-from-men before trans activism needed them to "prove" a point? I've been using women's public toilets for years and haven't seen them.

"‘If trans women use men’s toilets, they will be subjected to humiliation, abuse and violence."
I'm sure that will suit those who have both the cross-dressing and the humiliation fetish down to the ground.

If trans women use men’s toilets, they will be subjected to humiliation, abuse and violence.

Dear Owen,
So fix the men so this won't happen.
Love and kisses,
Bridget

Owen Jones is an idiot who appears to inhabit some kind of parallel and extremely narrow universe . I have rarely agreed with anything he had to say because I live in the real world inhabited by a wide range of people.

The trans lobby is incredibly strong for such a proportionately small number of people affected by their issues. The fact that they have been happy to see young girls put at risk (communal toilets at school; communal changing rooms) so they get their way tells you everything you need to know about them.

Quite so!!

I wonder what would have happened if he’d managed to secure a womb for hire, but received a baby girl from it.

The horror.

The comments are reassuring

He could borrow Mhairi Black’s “you can pee next to me” T-shirt.

I have to admit that, even though it was expected, the sheer misogyny the EHRC code has unleashed has been very depressing.

I had a bit of a to and fro with someone on Facebook yesterday. Apparently sex isn't just chromosomes, it's how hormones affect the brain, I've been told! So XY chromosomes and something affecting hormones equals female. I ask you!!

I feel like it’s all been made so vague and incomprehensible that it can mean anything they want it to mean.

Let’s not forget the very satisfying moment he (unintentionally) misgendered one of the Palestine hunger strikers and got absolutely roasted for it (by their supporters). Hence a frantic and very appeasing series of statements in a bid to quell the anger.

A man with an obvious visceral hatred of actual women, why anyone listens to little "Talcum X" is completely beyond me.

I don’t know if this woman is on here, but if she is “I love you”

Little Owhiny Jones' philosophy is that men are horrible and violent, and can't be expected to change, so this is a problem for women to deal with - all women have to become their mummys, sacrifice their own lives to being kind to men, as women are really only support animals for men, real women that is, the men in frocks can of course carry in depriving women of their legal rights to privacy, safety and dignity and generally making women the audience for their ghastly fetishes. Because in spite of their propensity for violence, men are the real humans deserving respect whilst women are just a servant class who should provide men with babies when required.

Duncan Bannatyne on Twitter: "You are a complete moron Owen Jones"

Little Owhiny Jones' philosophy is that men are horrible and violent, and can't be expected to change, so this is a problem for women to deal with.

Well said Bertiebiscuit and Duncan Bannatyne.

Decent men really need to call LOJ out on this. He's basically said all men are neanderthals including himself. It's not the clever gotcha he thinks it is.

Totally agree. He's every bit as much of an incel as Tate.

This.

He's railing against a strawman because the EHRC guidance clearly sets out that while women's facilities are only for biological women, it is not reasonable for transwomen to be left without facilities and appropriate universal single-user options must also be available. If a building is only large enough to have 2 loos then it is fine for them both to be fully-self-contained universal single-user, and any larger than that it is possible to divide into appropriate mens, womens and universal options.

JKR on Owen's latest is up to her usual standard.

J.K. Rowling
Follow the logic. Women are deluded and naive for thinking predatory and violent men can be kept out of women-only spaces. ‘They can rape you anywhere.’ However, trans-identified men can only be safe in women-only spaces, because no abuser would ever follow them in there.

Why is it only the Ladies that becomes a Gender Neutral Toilet, why is it never the Men's.

Perhaps because this is a male rights movement and anything women have has been given to them as a grace and favour by the men, so the men can take it back when ever they want.

That's the feeling I'm left with because of this codswallop, it just a reminder of women's place in the world, which is under the male thumb.

OJ is a failed mediocrity, his brain is so squirrelly, he's Queer's for Palestine level stupid.

But the point is that transwomen can use the men's, there's no physical need for extra facilities for them, like there is a physical need for the adaptations in an accessible toilet for disabled people.

There's no evidence that they are going to be attacked in the men's - unless you take OJ's apparent believe that men are inherently violent as 'evidence'.

So as long as there are men's/women's/accessible toilets available, no transwoman is 'left without facilities' - if they are disabled, they use the accessible toilet; if they are able-bodied they use the men's.

They are not 'left without facilities', they just prefer not to use the facilities designated for their sex.