Younger generations being pro trans

[PeachyDaisy]

I know many are saying the trans debate is over, but I think it has only just begun. And the reason is the younger generation. Studies show young people are the most supportive of transwomen going into women's spaces amongst all groups. In 20 years, these people will be in positions of power making decisions where they can enact their beliefs.

Also most of the western world has fallen to trans ideology (which activists will use as credibility for their ideology). I don't buy the argument that as long as it is just in EU/Australia/CA/ NZ then it is contained.

Having the laws on our side and sex matters fighting is great, but it feels like little consolation if we have to spend the next 50 years constantly in a court room suing organisations as they continue to to flaunt the law. It is like wack a mole, you stop one stop one organisation from doing it whilst another one pops up.

And this by yougov

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/40111-cancel-culture-what-views-are-britons-afraid-expre

Other top views people are more reluctant to express are the belief that ethnic minorities in Britain have things as good as white Britons, with 31% who hold this view feel they can’t ever or mostly can’t say so, and transgender issues, which 29% of those who disagree with the statement “a transgender woman is a woman” feel they have to frequently keep bottled up.

the data is here

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/YouGov_-_Cancel_culture.pdf

When you look at the graphic, the younger age group are more unsure as to what they can and cannot say for fear of judgement.

27% are 'unsure' along with 46% who say they stop themselves saying things.
73% of the younger demographic feels that they cannot discuss their true opinions. How tolerant is that!!!

Apparently though , we are to believe that that age group is the most 'tolerant'.
Sure, this age group might act as if they are tolerant of some issues, but I would be checking any claim of that closely because the likelihood is that they are not being honest about their opinions.

And yet... we are constantly told just how 'tolerant' they are. While any discussion in university around the issue of why female people need single sex provisions is protested and those 'tolerant' young people are seeking to drown out any person who doesn't agree that some male people can be female people in any way.

There is also a university study that showed the same dynamic - can anyone remember which uni did this please?

No, not just your area. It's become an eye roll and a 'don't be such a they/them' in most places.

Despite the furious assertion from some quarters that a very obvious social contagion was not in fact a very obvious social contagion, the fad is now passing. I just hope the next thing isn't as damaging.

But you just have to wonder why so many middle men were so determined for a social contagion to be embedded into our institutions, children indoctrinated and women silenced. It says lots of things, none of them good.

I suspect when the OP refers to " younger generations" she is referring to millennials or the generation one below. The generations coming up behind are really past it all and are moving on to new things. My daughter teaches 11-18 year olds, and the younger ones just roll their eyes now, and openly reject the notion of 'gender identity'. Most often, it is the activist teachers that are pushing it........and i suspect it is this generation of teachers that the OP is referring to.

'Gender identity' is really a generational fad...in the way that Emos/Goths/Indigo children were in their time.....but a fad that has successfully been pushed and inserted into every institution by a secretive and powerful lobby.

You know, it’s funny you should say this. My 9 year old asked me a few months ago if he could get an old fashioned briefcase to replace his school book bag 😅 ..off topic, but I think you might be on to something with that one.

Interesting because I'm a millennial and I know very few of my peers who buy into the trans thing either. In fact, I know very few people who buy into it full stop, and the ones who do are mostly 50+ women - the demographic most likely to be put into the TERF camp by TRAs.

Am not sure because it's at odds with the masculine surge going on at the moment for the young males, the Tates of this world influencing?

I do wonder why the Labour party has refused to ban social media for children...at a time when an increasing number of countries are now doing exactly that. To my mind the whole trans phenommenon( for children) has been spread and propagated by social media......I suspect many MPs are as addicted to social media and the 'politics' found within it as young people are to TikTok and You Tube..hence their reluctance to ban it.

Strange that...

I mean we all knew what TVs were and what motivated them but now they no longer seem to exist...

Concerning!? is tolerance really a big deal? Younger people have bigger fish to fry than a trans person going about their day.

It's concerning when it means they are more likely to vote for policies that allow males into female spaces like prisons and refuges, yes.

No one objects to transpeople just going about their day.

Oh Helleofabore, there you go again with your verifiable facts and figures! Loads of them! Complete with references to reliable sources!
You know how that irritates people with nothing to back up their arguments, and yet you just keep on doing it!

Keep on keeping on, thank you

"Ignorant"? We are among the most well-informed people you will find on the issues involving trans people ,and the huge conflict with women's rights.

Was it the Labour party which wanted to lower the voting age to 16, which has also been loud and proud on the gender ideology front (I am looking at you Lisa Nandy)? It was also the Labour party who were in control of many of the councils which were involved in the child grooming gang scandals. The Labour party are well aware of their voter demographics and will do anything to keep them and to possibly add more people to their voting pool.

You really need to re-read that post and see where you went wrong.

Haha! Thats a great idea. If I told my kids I am now a man they’d be utterly horrified.

To add this as it seems relevant.

THE SEX MATTERS MARCH 2026 DATA SPLICED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE AGE GROUP OF 18-24

For each of the following, do you prefer them to be single sex or mixed sex?
Changing rooms in gyms and leisure centres
(General population / 18-24 yr)
Single sex 84% ( 18-24 yr 85%)
Mixed sex 10% ( 18-24 yr 9%)
Unsure 7% ( 18-24 yr 6%)

Changing rooms and showers at work
Single sex 86% ( 18-24 yr 84%)
Mixed sex 8% ( 18-24 yr 10%)
Unsure 6% ( 18-24 yr 6%)

Public toilets, for example in parks
Single sex 81% ( 18-24 yr 77%)
Mixed sex 13% ( 18-24 yr 16%)
Unsure 6% ( 18-24 yr 7%)

Workplace toilets
Single sex 78% ( 18-24 yr 74%)
Mixed sex 14% ( 18-24 yr 17%)
Unsure 8% ( 18-24 yr 9%)

Toilets in a pub or entertainment venue
Single sex 81% ( 18-24 yr 74%)
Mixed sex 13% ( 18-24 yr 17%)
Unsure 7% ( 18-24 yr 9%)

A transgender person is someone who says they are the other sex, that is, a person born male who identifies as a woman, or a person born female who identifies as a man. How do you think transgender people should be accommodated in toilets…
(General population / 18-24 yr)

At work
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 21% ( 18-24 yr 38%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 33% ( 18-24 yr 38%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 36% ( 18-24 yr 18%)
Unsure 12% ( 18-24 yr 6%)

In gyms and leisure centres
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 19% ( 18-24 yr 30%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 34% ( 18-24 yr 42%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 36% ( 18-24 yr 21%)
Unsure 12% ( 18-24 yr 7%)

At university
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 20% ( 18-24 yr 31%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 32% ( 18-24 yr 35%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 37% ( 18-24 yr 23%)
Unsure 12% ( 18-24 yr 11%)

In a bar or entertainment venue
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 20% ( 18-24 yr 33%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 32% ( 18-24 yr 32%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 37% ( 18-24 yr 26%)
Unsure 12% ( 18-24 yr 8%)

In public toilets, for example in parks
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 19% ( 18-24 yr 30%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 32% ( 18-24 yr 33%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 37% ( 18-24 yr 28%)
Unsure 12% ( 18-24 yr 9%)

In hospital
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 20% ( 18-24 yr 30%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 30% ( 18-24 yr 32%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 35% ( 18-24 yr 28%)
Unsure 11% ( 18-24 yr 10%)

How do you think transgender people should be accommodated in changing rooms and showers…
At work
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 19% ( 18-24 yr 30%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 35% ( 18-24 yr 39%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 35% ( 18-24 yr 24%)
Unsure 11% ( 18-24 yr 7%)

In gyms and leisure centres
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 18% ( 18-24 yr 28%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 36% ( 18-24 yr 43%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 35% ( 18-24 yr 23%)
Unsure 11% ( 18-24 yr 7%)

At university
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 18% ( 18-24 yr 26%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 35% ( 18-24 yr 35%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 36% ( 18-24 yr 30%)
Unsure 12% ( 18-24 yr 8%)

Here is the link to the data:
https://sex-matters.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Omni-Sex-Matters-polling-March-2026.pdf

A link to the article:
https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/new-poll-shows-most-people-prefer-single-sex-toilets-and-changing-rooms/

A couple of points to consider with this poll. It didn't separate questions with specific scenarios about male people with transgender identities and female people with transgender identities. Many of the young people answering may have a very different focus depending on the sex of the person. Many female people at that age for instance will have female friends with transgender identities that they are supporting in what they understand that female friend wants.

However, even though some do (moreso than older generations) believe that people should choose the provision, the majority of this age group do not believe that people of the opposite sex should be using the opposite sex single sex provision.

The majority of this age group also WANT single sex provisions.

I don't believe that 18-24 year old will be supporting transwomen going into women's spaces any time in the future without some significant scientific findings that change the foundational fact that people cannot change sex and sex is important in some instances.

Note: The next age group up are less supportive of people with transgender identities using opposite sex provisions than 18-24 year olds.

As long as "going about their day" doesn't involve males in women's toilets, or women's changing rooms, or women's sports, or women's rape crisis centres and refuges, or female-only organisations; as long as these males are not expecting me to refer to them as woman/she/her, or claiming to be women while assaulting/threatening/filming in women-only spaces, we're all good.

The younger you are the less you have experienced in life. Give them time and they will see.

Anecdotal, but 18yo DD and her friends seem to have become increasingly gender critical in the last few years, although most of them wouldn't even know the term itself.

They've grown up alongside probably the first generation of "trans" kids who have been openly affirmed, and mostly they just seem to find them hard work. Apparently they tend to be people who cause a lot of drama, and make everything about themselves, and then complain when their ostracized for it.

As a result that's they eye they use when looking at issues in sports, female spaces etc. That it's people pushing their way into spaces they shouldn't be, making it all about them, and causing drama when it's pointed out they shouldn't be there.

DD in particular has gone from being incredibly upset about 5 years ago when she found out she was a "hateful bigot" to thinking she's right about pretty much everything, although she still doesn't love the way she says some of it.

In my experience, a lot of young people go along with it, but most don't actually believe it.

The way I see it from polling data coming through from around the world is that support generally for male people being included in female single sex provisions is dropping.

We so commonly see the misrepresentation of the real situation used on threads here about how generally the majority of people are 'supportive' of those with transgender identities. And if an open ended question is asked, that is the case. People will usually be overly optimistic in self-reporting this. Hence I would not trust such open ended questions.

What is necessary is to then drill down into whether that person directly supports male people with transgender identities being included in specific situations.

In my opinion, if even one of those situations is not 'supported' eg, sports or prisons or rape crisis support or communal changing rooms, then that 'support' is being over reported and is limited and conditional. ie. not support outside a generic feeling of support that is limited when questioned.

I also think people start to change their minds once they themselves have children and gain an understanding of safeguarding their own children.

What I am seeing often on FWR is a sentiment from those who wish to discredit valid arguments is that 'safeguarding' is infantilising to women in some way and that it is falsely polarised into being the tool of the far right wing political group so therefore it must be rejected .

The girls in my granddaughter's school were very upset and confused when another girl, their friend, came back to school after lockdown declaring she was now a boy and wanted to be referred to as 'he'. This friend shouted at them for 'misgendering' her and all of a sudden expected special and different treatment to everyone else. They were 10 years old. The impacts of trans ideology effect everyone around that person. Other children also have rights

I have also had a couple of parents tell me that their children are so much cleverer and know so much more than we do - about identity and about the world.

And then they tell their children that.

And then I sit back and watch..... because I just cannot battle against that......

Quite. When the question asked is not the nedulous 'do you support trans rights' but the rather more concrete 'do you think that someone who identifies as a woman but was born male, has male genitalia*, should be allowed to use female changing rooms where women and girls are undressing, even if those women object?', the answers are considerably more opposed -

wingsoverscotland.com/transforming-the-question/

*I don't agree even if said man has chopped off his dick but that's what the question in the link asked

It is curious how young people starting out in the world with little money believe everyone should share all their wealth. But older people who have worked very hard for years and gone without in order to pay their mortgage and save for pensions should wish to hang onto that which they have acquired. I wonder what drives such a shift…?