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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transgender hate on mum's net

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Steph2002 · 08/04/2026 13:30

I'm just wondering, I see so much hate on here about transgender woman and not a lot about transgender men. Does everyone on mum's net hate Transgender women and if so why? I don't mind sharing a toilet space with a transgender woman in fact my best friend is a transgender woman and she is the nicest person you could ever wish to meet and will protect any woman no matter where they are. I would hate to be sharing a toilet with a hairy masculine transgender man, which seems the way people want to go why? Am I the only person on here that supports trans gender women, if so I need to leave. How many people that hate Transgender women have actually met one and had issues with one I'd love to know.

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BackToLurk · 09/04/2026 07:48

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:45

Women navigate the risk of SA every where we go. The toilets are in no way the highest risk of SA to us. Our marital beds are.

By nit having TW in my toilets, my risk of being SA over my lifetime has not changed at all because they were never the people most likely to SA me.

It's like putting down foxes to eliminate your risk of being bitten by a dog while you breed dogs at home.

Whereas you’d believe a dog was a rabbit if it put on bunny ears.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:49

Wearenotborg · 09/04/2026 07:45

Exactly. And the Supreme Court ruling was awesome for transmen. They are now entitled to abortion care as previously they could have been denied as “men are not entitled to abortion and pregnancy care”. and won’t have to go to male prison if they commit a crime. So that’s fab for them isn’t it?

This is the type of thing that makes me switch off from you becauae you dont seem very sane. Trans men have never been denied abortions for being trans. They never would be. Not in the UK anyway
And on that ridiculous note, I'll leave you all to tell your lies to each other and freak each other out.

If I wanted to sit in a waiting room with a bunch of people seeing things that aren't there, I could go and volunteer at St Annes.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:50

BackToLurk · 09/04/2026 07:48

Whereas you’d believe a dog was a rabbit if it put on bunny ears.

I dont actually think TWAW though so... what I have come to believe is that the irrationality on this side of the fence probably outweighs the insanity on the other.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/04/2026 07:50

Sure.

Wearenotborg · 09/04/2026 07:52

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:49

This is the type of thing that makes me switch off from you becauae you dont seem very sane. Trans men have never been denied abortions for being trans. They never would be. Not in the UK anyway
And on that ridiculous note, I'll leave you all to tell your lies to each other and freak each other out.

If I wanted to sit in a waiting room with a bunch of people seeing things that aren't there, I could go and volunteer at St Annes.

But they would have been if FWS had lost. Tell me you didn’t follow the case without telling me you didn’t follow the case. And how do you think a female would fare in male prison? If males with a trans identity are in danger in male prisons, how would a female fare? And now transmen have access to female rape crisis centres so that’s good news right. Before they would have been turned away from women’s services as they were “men”. So the ruling was great for them wasn’t it?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/04/2026 07:52

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:45

Women navigate the risk of SA every where we go. The toilets are in no way the highest risk of SA to us. Our marital beds are.

By nit having TW in my toilets, my risk of being SA over my lifetime has not changed at all because they were never the people most likely to SA me.

It's like putting down foxes to eliminate your risk of being bitten by a dog while you breed dogs at home.

They’re not “foxes”, they’re also dogs. They’re just men, like all other men.

Wearenotborg · 09/04/2026 07:53

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:50

I dont actually think TWAW though so... what I have come to believe is that the irrationality on this side of the fence probably outweighs the insanity on the other.

So if you don’t believe TWAW, why should they be allowed into women’s spaces?

borntobequiet · 09/04/2026 07:54

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:28

Many trans women arent attracted to women, they are attracted to men. Therefore, they arent heterosexual men, even if you view TW as men.

Therefore it makes little sense for a women to fear what is essentially a gay man wants to look at her in the loo.

Therefore it makes little sense for a women to fear what is essentially a gay man wants to look at her in the loo.

I’d love to understand what form of thought led to this conclusion. It certainly wasn’t logic.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/04/2026 07:55

Wearenotborg · 09/04/2026 07:52

But they would have been if FWS had lost. Tell me you didn’t follow the case without telling me you didn’t follow the case. And how do you think a female would fare in male prison? If males with a trans identity are in danger in male prisons, how would a female fare? And now transmen have access to female rape crisis centres so that’s good news right. Before they would have been turned away from women’s services as they were “men”. So the ruling was great for them wasn’t it?

Yes, for eg the Girl Guides wanted to keep out girls who identify as boys. The law has now been clarified for them: those girls are legally allowed to remain members. Men and boys are not.

Kiminki · 09/04/2026 07:55

BackToLurk · 09/04/2026 07:44

Why should some male people be in female-only spaces?

Men, regardless of how they identify, can never and will never be in female-only spaces. Their presence destroys it and makes it mixed sex.

Every man who goes into what was a woman’s toilets is entering a mixed sex space where every single woman immediately and instinctive has changed her behaviour to reflect the fact that it has suddenly become mixed sex. That includes all the women who cry ‘TWAW’ - you just need to look at their posts on here about their lovely mates to see they know they are men and are treating them as such.

borntobequiet · 09/04/2026 07:56

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:35

Yeah.... no. Seems like a reach. You know i never thought much about this stuff until I came on this site and now I think the people who speak up against trans people are likely to be irrational so I will just ignore what they have to say as totally unreliable now.

Irrational? Us? Dearie me.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/04/2026 07:57

DARVO isn’t just a river in Egypt.

Gloriia · 09/04/2026 07:59

borntobequiet · 09/04/2026 07:54

Therefore it makes little sense for a women to fear what is essentially a gay man wants to look at her in the loo.

I’d love to understand what form of thought led to this conclusion. It certainly wasn’t logic.

Exactly! Such simplistic crap spouted that they don't fancy women anyway so what are we fretting about.

Sexual violence is about power and intimidation. The fact they don't find us attractive is absolutely irrelevant.

BackToLurk · 09/04/2026 08:01

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:50

I dont actually think TWAW though so... what I have come to believe is that the irrationality on this side of the fence probably outweighs the insanity on the other.

If transwomen aren’t women then what’s the problem with excluding them from women-only spaces? Along with all the other ‘not women’?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/04/2026 08:03

Gloriia · 09/04/2026 07:59

Exactly! Such simplistic crap spouted that they don't fancy women anyway so what are we fretting about.

Sexual violence is about power and intimidation. The fact they don't find us attractive is absolutely irrelevant.

There’s always an undertone of “why do you think they’d be interested in you?”

Helleofabore · 09/04/2026 08:04

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:42

Who said you were hysterical? Do you feel hysterical?

”Again, that's just because of the hysteria you guys spread here.”

You posted this minute before posting this

”Who said you were hysterical? Do you feel hysterical?

TheKeatingFive · 09/04/2026 08:05

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:50

I dont actually think TWAW though so... what I have come to believe is that the irrationality on this side of the fence probably outweighs the insanity on the other.

So what do you think is irrational about saying TW are not women, therefore they should stay out of women's spaces?

Gloriia · 09/04/2026 08:09

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/04/2026 08:03

There’s always an undertone of “why do you think they’d be interested in you?”

Yes us annoying women who will not sit down and stfu, why would the glamorous men identifying as women fancy us! Well they don't, they hate us for calling out their delusions but that has never stopped sexual violence and intimidation.

Misnofitness · 09/04/2026 08:09

Steph2002 · 08/04/2026 21:53

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5498910-one-year-later-11th-april-national-day-of-action

It's just a massive hate campaign against a very small group of people who will they be coming after one they have eradicated all the transgender community

No one is trying to eradicate the trans community. They have existed for millennia. This is about protecting women only spaces,
competitions ect to be for biological females.

to be honest I am sure I have shared a toilet with a passing trans woman and not noticed but I have been in a female gym chaging room with a penis and it made me uncomfortable. That is all. I just don’t want that for anyone.

Shedmistress · 09/04/2026 08:11

I see the batshit signal is glowing bright in the spring skies this week.

Gloriia · 09/04/2026 08:12

The argument that what does it matter if a men uses women's, nothing to fear use a cubicle no-one knows. Well use the men's then!

Seriestwo · 09/04/2026 08:12

Some women don’t think theymind being part of a random man’s fetish.

i don’t want to be in a grubby fantasy of a sexual incontinent. You do you, @GlovedhandsCecilia

TheyAreLovelyLovelyPeople · 09/04/2026 08:15

Well we have had quite the ride on this thread.

TWAW except for when they are hairy but TWANW if they have declined to have horribly mutilating surgery and women, the cunty kind for clarity, are hysterical for not wanting males in female spaces, even though we know from MoJ stats that TW are very very very overrepresented in sexual offences convictions and are therefore as a cohort, dangerous men.

Women are mostly horrid old mummies who are unkind and intolerant, according to our drive-by scolders.

Oh well.

DialSquare · 09/04/2026 08:16

GlovedhandsCecilia · 09/04/2026 07:43

Trans men exist. I actually know 2. My son reminded me. I dont know any trans women. So whatever you say about trans women and their rights would also go for trans men.

What rights don’t trans people have?
Why do you think we only talk about Transwomen?
Again, for those at the back, it’s because they are men. Men should not be using female singie sex provision. Transmen are women so not a threat. As you well know.
Tell that to your son.

Pingponghavoc · 09/04/2026 08:19

Lots of TRA are claiming the 'middle ground' by claiming women's rights are extreme, and using hyperbole on their side.

Both single sex spaces and the idea of a literal sex change are extreme, therefore the 'sensible' middle ground is woman is a meaningful transition.

The end result is the removal of women only spaces and men seen as women, but somehow convinced themselves its a win win situation, or both sides have compromised.

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