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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

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BlueSkiesAndSunshiiine · 29/03/2026 17:40

It's strange, isn't it? They really can't keep her name out of their mouths. Very baffling.

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murasaki · 31/03/2026 10:48

I'm still laughing about the rozzers.

Does anyone remember that night Dawn Butler, i think it was her, was going to call the rozzers on us all and we had a merry night talking about how scared we were and what we were packing in our prison bags? Fun times.

SockPlant · 31/03/2026 10:48

the convo moved along a lot while i was asleep. I CBA to go through it all.

But it remains: using the Bananarama complaint against women pushing back is all the TRAs have at this stage.

Boiledbeetle · 31/03/2026 10:50

murasaki · 31/03/2026 10:48

I'm still laughing about the rozzers.

Does anyone remember that night Dawn Butler, i think it was her, was going to call the rozzers on us all and we had a merry night talking about how scared we were and what we were packing in our prison bags? Fun times.

I loved that thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4967923-everyone-scarper-the-rozzers-are-coming

Everyone scarper, the rozzers are coming | Mumsnet

Dawn Butler's called the polis on us! Quick everyone, namechange and look busy. [[https://twitter.com/DawnButlerBrent/status/1737853431413657806 htt...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4967923-everyone-scarper-the-rozzers-are-coming

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 10:50

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Well you turned nasty all of a sudden. Males are not marginalised. And I said absolutely nothing at all about your political beliefs. All I did was reply in good faith and state the truth.

Boiledbeetle · 31/03/2026 10:51

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 10:50

Well you turned nasty all of a sudden. Males are not marginalised. And I said absolutely nothing at all about your political beliefs. All I did was reply in good faith and state the truth.

It appears the truth causes hurty feelings!

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 10:51

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 07:51

What I am going to do this morning, rather than engage with you, is report every single baseless lie you’ve posted. Trans women don’t face male violence? I’m tone policing feminists? I can’t: people like you are the reason jk has no support. Stop telling me what to do or explaining what I’m doing wrongly. You look ridiculous. You’re embarassing jk and feminists

people like you are the reason jk has no support.

So now the truth comes out, you don't support her.

Stop telling us what to do.

Any violence transwomen face is male-on-male violence. Nothing to do with women.

SockPlant · 31/03/2026 10:52

that took an absolutely bonkers turn.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 10:54

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:03

If she’d provided facts for this I would have coped but she didn’t. Trump is setting a bad example.
i will not cope with being tone policed and called not a feminist by someone who is tone policing and not a feminist. I hope mn report her to the police for hate speech; I honestly do. What you say online has consequences. People read it

I did provide facts. You didn't.

I never even brought Trump into it. What does he have to do with any of this?

"i will not cope with being tone policed "

But you can tone police the rest of us?

" hope mn report her to the police for hate speech"

Christ!...

murasaki · 31/03/2026 10:55

Thank you, there goes the rest of my morning having another read!

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 10:58

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:12

For calling all trans women predators yes. It’s hate speech. It she said it about a gay person or a black person or anyone else id report it too.
its hate speech this is not hard.

Do not lie about me, I never said all transwomen are predators. That would be libel and actionable.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:00

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:21

I have taken offense and I’ve explained why. I’m not calling trans people predators becuase they’re trans. It’s hate speech.

Good thing I didn't call trans people predators because they're trans.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:02

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:31

See I have no problem with this viewpoint because it’s women focused and not attacking a marginalised group. It’s not hard. Yes it probably is sexist to feel that we need such strict gender roles that people find experiences as living as the other so distressing they need to change it. This is interesting. This I like engaging with.
abusing trans people no not interested

The marginalised group is females. Not males.

SockPlant · 31/03/2026 11:04

spannasaurus · 31/03/2026 00:09

How many male rapists in womens prison are you willing to tolerate to avoid saying anything that might upset transwomen

Edited

(i know i know, but I'm waiting for a train and i am bored so this is entertaining and infuriating me while i wait)

no need to ask this question: we already know the answer is n+1

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:04

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:33

all humans are a potential threat to all humans. Statistically men are the biggest threat within this group.
can we focus on why that is rather than a minority group that are determined to distract from the main issue, vawg?

Again, men are 50% of the population. They are the oppressor sex. They are not a minority group.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:05

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:35

You can’t though. Not really. Even in prisons some staff will have to be male. Cleaners in toilets might be male. If men want to do this they have plenty of opportunities besides pretending to be transgender.
do you see my point?

So you throw your hands up and give in.

Cleaners put signs up first and usually close the toilets. We've been through this hundreds of times on this site.

SockPlant · 31/03/2026 11:08

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 01:11

Well it’s also group with lived social experiences of male violence, who frequently fear it as much as women do. There are a few bad apples like in every group yes. but I feel by focusing on them jk is isolating a lot of people who would be very sympathetic to her cause.
ill check the book rec thank you! I’m very interested in power and how perceptions are more important than the truth when it comes to influence.

I'll be needing actual hard numbers for that.

But... you actually can't provide them because of the police and others adhering to the TRAs bonkers requirement to record gender rather than sex. And this is one reason that i am adamant that police (etc) should always record biological sex and they can add on GI if they want to (it helps with hard facts)

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:09

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:54

I just think if a man wants to follow you into a public toilet and assault you, a little picture on the door isn’t going to stop him.
and pretending it does gives a false sense of security

If a burglar is so determined to break into your house, a locked door won't stop him so why bother locking your doors at night?

If a hoon is so determined to speed, speed cameras won't stop him, so why bother having speed limits?

Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them
ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:13

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:10

Well we can now do gender affirming care and identify dsds. Semenya is a good example. Clearly not out to hurt women, has no actual choice and genuinely wouldn’t have known had the technology not improved so much

Semenya knew at puberty when he ejaculated instead of getting a period. He knew. Entering a race designed for females when he knew he was male hurts women. You don't get to adulthood and not go to the Drs about why you are ejaculating and not getting a period.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:16

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:15

My issue is not with what jkr says but her beefing with tras online. Please can you stop putting words in my mouth?

If that were even remotely true, you'd called out the TRAs for starting beefs with her, not the victim for responding. What you are doing here is more than clear especially for someone who only joined yesterday and came straight to FWR and then defended reddit. We aren't fools. This happens at least once a months here.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:17

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:20

I’m not uncomfortable. You’re not actually engaging with my main point.
so I will ask you.
how does baiting an aggressive group for 5/6 years online help her cause instead of distract and give them airtime?

Except she hasn't. They have baited her. It's disingenuous to lie.

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:18

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:23

Ok now that’s a stretch.
its not racist to say that the technology that found out about her dsd is pretty new and wouldn’t have historically been available?

The technology is 60 years old! And he knew at puberty!

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:21

Back to reddit he scarpers. Tail between legs.

SockPlant · 31/03/2026 11:28

Mmmnotsure · 31/03/2026 10:02

The Year of the Squirrel 2018 I think.

the year of the Fruitbat(shittery)

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 11:34

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 11:16

If that were even remotely true, you'd called out the TRAs for starting beefs with her, not the victim for responding. What you are doing here is more than clear especially for someone who only joined yesterday and came straight to FWR and then defended reddit. We aren't fools. This happens at least once a months here.

I'm pretty sure I've engaged with the poster several times under different names. The style and pattern are extremely familiar, the "I won't talk to you because you say all trans people are peedators", the lovely sad trans friend and the "now this is a good feminist thing to talk about instead of trans boundary transgressions" pivot.

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 11:45

Hahaha I’m not going to engage with you any more because you’re basically saying my moderate common beliefs (that all humans beings are worthy of dignity and respect and you have to practise what you preach) makes me a man, not a feminist, stupid, etc.
im not engaging with people who make silly claims, huge outlandish reaches and just want people to agree with them becuase like i told jkr, its just giving you guys airtime and making your beliefs have a bigger outreach.

i love having a little fanclub; clearly ive made an impact. Keep bitching about me #letthemspeak

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