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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

460 replies

BlueSkiesAndSunshiiine · 29/03/2026 17:40

It's strange, isn't it? They really can't keep her name out of their mouths. Very baffling.

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Shedmistress · 31/03/2026 09:26

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:25

Yeah but they’re also doing that to her and using it for publicity. It’s not working in the way she hoped

Well, it is working as it peaks people every day. So there's that.

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:27

Shedmistress · 31/03/2026 09:26

Well, it is working as it peaks people every day. So there's that.

I think there are more effective ways.
youre attacking me for a pretty moderate viewpoint tbh

PrettyDamnCosmic · 31/03/2026 09:27

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:22

I’m sorry but there are some jobs (like drs or plumbers) where a higher proportion of the people doing them will be male and at some point they will need to access women’s spaces. Deal with that issue rather than abusing trans people. You think dbs is ineffective? Make it more enhanced. Do international checks for people who’ve left the country.

I’m sorry but there are some jobs (like drs or plumbers) where a higher proportion of the people doing them will be male

The majority of doctors in the UK are female.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 31/03/2026 09:28

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:27

I think there are more effective ways.
youre attacking me for a pretty moderate viewpoint tbh

"attacking"

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:28

Shedmistress · 31/03/2026 09:25

You say this like you think men working in construction (my own industry) is a surprise.

No idea what you think your point is to be honest.

Telling males to use the spaces designed for them is not abuse.

The Trans Loophole lets anyone use it, there are no safeguards. It's OK if you were not aware of it, its just another thing they kept quiet

Can you read it again please. Becuase I think you’ve missed my point: women only spaces are great but how possible to be 100% women only?

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:28

PrettyDamnCosmic · 31/03/2026 09:27

I’m sorry but there are some jobs (like drs or plumbers) where a higher proportion of the people doing them will be male

The majority of doctors in the UK are female.

depends what type of dr.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 31/03/2026 09:30

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:28

depends what type of dr.

depends what type of dr.

You don't like being called out for posting misinformation do you?

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:31

PrettyDamnCosmic · 31/03/2026 09:30

depends what type of dr.

You don't like being called out for posting misinformation do you?

They are the minority in surgery unfortunately

PrettyDamnCosmic · 31/03/2026 09:35

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:31

They are the minority in surgery unfortunately

They are the minority in surgery unfortunately

Men are the minority in general practice. What is your point?

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:41

PrettyDamnCosmic · 31/03/2026 09:35

They are the minority in surgery unfortunately

Men are the minority in general practice. What is your point?

It’s going to be pretty difficult and counterproductive to ban male surgeons from women only hospitals for example: so you can say it’s a single sex space but the reality is it’s not. And you’re going to need something like dbs to protect this.
tbh I don’t know how we got here. The thread is about why jkr and the tras are still going at each other. My answer is because it generates money and distracts from the real issue.
im very bored now. Have a good day and I’m not coming back

PrettyDamnCosmic · 31/03/2026 09:42

@butterfly231
The majority of people on the medical register are female contrary to your assertion. Why not just apologise for posting misinformation instead of indulging in whataboutary.

Boiledbeetle · 31/03/2026 09:46

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:23

Ok now that’s a stretch.
its not racist to say that the technology that found out about her dsd is pretty new and wouldn’t have historically been available?

His DSD. He is a male with a DSD. The court case that meant his medical info became public knowledge settled that one.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 09:46

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 08:58

I’m saying that when you have shared oppressors, aligning with others who have your interests is prudent and insulting them is not.

Refusing to accomodate disordered thinking about what type of mind is appropriate for men and women is "Insulting"? I rather think it's the other way round.

Look, as you yourself said, you are (relatively) young.

To be a woman is to swim from birth in emotional blackmail from men (and from male-centered society). To be constantly having your boundaries pushed by men who want to make you feel selfish and nasty for having them (and even probably believe it).

"I only want a chat, why are you treating me like a predator?" "Ah come on, it's not like I'm going to jump on you! You don't really think I'm going to jump on you do you?" "Someone has to be there for the kids, you know I always go out on Saturdays" "my ex was a psycho bitch! Thank god you're normal" and so on.

The older you get, the clearer it is.

So all this is just the same dynamic. Men finding excuses in how we say No to turn it into our problem, just us being mean, so they don't need to accept it.

You think there's a qualitative difference between nice real genuine trans women and predatory bad ones.

But there isn't, no more than there is a qualitative difference between men who rape and men who try to override boundaries in more socially accepted ways.

It starts with seeing women not as individual people but as a group who deprive them of something they are entitled to.

Mmmnotsure · 31/03/2026 09:53

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:41

It’s going to be pretty difficult and counterproductive to ban male surgeons from women only hospitals for example: so you can say it’s a single sex space but the reality is it’s not. And you’re going to need something like dbs to protect this.
tbh I don’t know how we got here. The thread is about why jkr and the tras are still going at each other. My answer is because it generates money and distracts from the real issue.
im very bored now. Have a good day and I’m not coming back

The thread is about why jkr and the tras are still going at each other. My answer is because it generates money

Which as we all know, is the very thing that JKR seriously needs.

Boiledbeetle · 31/03/2026 10:00

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:28

Can you read it again please. Becuase I think you’ve missed my point: women only spaces are great but how possible to be 100% women only?

100% if the blasted men, ALL men, would do as they are told for once and stay the fuck out

borntobequiet · 31/03/2026 10:01

Ooh, this is fun.

What year is it?

Mmmnotsure · 31/03/2026 10:02

borntobequiet · 31/03/2026 10:01

Ooh, this is fun.

What year is it?

The Year of the Squirrel 2018 I think.

Boiledbeetle · 31/03/2026 10:03

borntobequiet · 31/03/2026 10:01

Ooh, this is fun.

What year is it?

Party like it's 1999!

Only not all posters appear to have even been born then!

Stnam · 31/03/2026 10:09

butterfly231 · 30/03/2026 16:00

Jk is a wonderful woman who I respect deeply and empathise but she has this annoying habit of acting like she’s speaking for absolutely everyone. If she was just a bit less focused on one minority group vs systemic issues women face (such as having to be frightened of men in women’s spaces in the first place) she’d have a lot of support. I don’t think understandably she ever got over Porto (who would that vulnerable and pp) and when she used her experience to talk about it again she was threatened by extreme tras who were missing the wider point. She is so eloquent. Imagine if she spoke for sexual abuse victims or dv as much as this. It’s far more widespread.

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She does speak up for women's rights and abuse victims in lots of ways but no one is interested in that. It is the trans stuff that grabs the headlines because that is a lot more entertaining.

It is also a win for any flagging actor to mention her and trans in the same sentence as they get loads of free publicity.

ChestnutSquash · 31/03/2026 10:13

butterfly231 · 31/03/2026 09:41

It’s going to be pretty difficult and counterproductive to ban male surgeons from women only hospitals for example: so you can say it’s a single sex space but the reality is it’s not. And you’re going to need something like dbs to protect this.
tbh I don’t know how we got here. The thread is about why jkr and the tras are still going at each other. My answer is because it generates money and distracts from the real issue.
im very bored now. Have a good day and I’m not coming back

Yes there are some bad men who use a variety of strategies to circumvent safeguarding. It is an unfortunate but well known tactic, such as entering the priesthood, qualifying in medicine/teaching, volunteering to work with vulnerable people, pretending to be a woman.

This is why safeguarding principles must be applied consistently and impartially. Unfortunately this is a bit of an uphill battle what with these bad men being so determined. There are situations in hospitals where you can't guarantee only female staff, but you can offer as much choice as possible to patients, provide chaperones, DBS check staff.

Above all you can recognise the reasons why a woman might need a female doctor, take her seriously and do everything you can to meet her needs. What you should not do is gaslight her, dismiss her fears, belittle her reasons, coerce her into accepting a male HCP against her will.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 31/03/2026 10:14

She is so eloquent. Imagine if she spoke for sexual abuse victims or dv as much as this.

What is setting up and funding a sexual violence support centre if it's not speaking up for sexual abuse victims or dv?

She's put her money where her mouth is. So many times.

Taking down TRAs and MRAs on TwiX is up to her. And she does it expertly. There's more to the world than bloody TwiX.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 10:14

ThatBlackCat · 31/03/2026 02:11

Aggressive TRAs march through London, Scotland, etc with signs saying death to terfs, decapitate terfs, the only good terf is a dead terf, while pulling out their penises and urinating - literally - urinating on feminist statues in public.

You think they are not going to be noticed if Rowling's name isn't attached? Aggressive TRAs are in-your-face live on tv in rallies. Even if Rowling was a TRA and not on our side, we'd still notice the violent TRAs.

Just bumping this as a reminder of the behaviour that JKR's online sarcasm towards trans identifying men who slag her off first is apparently just as bad as.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 10:19

Boiledbeetle · 31/03/2026 10:00

100% if the blasted men, ALL men, would do as they are told for once and stay the fuck out

It's so telling isn't it.

"We can't stop all the men who might do it so we might as well tell them and women it's ok for them to do it".

Being old enough to remember Bananarama, I'm also old enough to remember when marital rape was legal. "How are you going to stop it?" was the stunning argument used against legally recognising that woman have a moral right to boundaries then as well.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 31/03/2026 10:20

WaffleParty · 30/03/2026 14:57

Well she has misgendered trans women and liked comments by others who have done the same or referred to trans women as men in dresses.
She talked about “throwing open the bathroom doors” to any man who said he was a woman. She is creating a false climate of fear. Trans women have been using those bathrooms for years and have gone unnoticed. You said ONE thing. I hope this will suffice.

Well she has misgendered trans women and liked comments by others who have done the same or referred to trans women as men in dresses.

Correctly sexing people is not a crime & if men in dresses don't like being called men in dresses perhaps they should think about that before they put on a dress in the first place.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 10:27

What JKR has also done, and the dear lord bless her for it, is defanged the TRAs expectation that the threat of prosecution under new hate crime laws could be used to stop Scottish women "misgendering" (correctly sexing) men.

And of course, helping to fund significant legal cases so women are not bullied out of proving our rights exist by organisations with deeper pockets.

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