What's the deal guys?

[shadesOfTeal]

I don't think this post is going to last long but what's the deal with hating trans women so much? I've been a women for 13 years of my life since 18 and it's never been a problem. Suddenly I'm not only talk of the town but also an evil man stealing everyone's rights away from them? I wasn't much of a boy as a kid anyway but. I just wanted to ask like what's the deal? Why do you hate the idea of me existing so much? What have I personally done to you that's been so bad? I feel like I need to be careful with my words because it'll be easy to accuse me of all sorts but I've done no harm to anyone. If you want to ask a trans woman some honest questions then please do, I don't usually talk about it in my day to day life and that, I'm pretty down to earth and will help you understand as much as possible. But I'd like to ask the people that hate me so much, can we ever get along? Please don't assume I'm what the internet and the media says I am though, I'm not like that at all! I just want us all to get on and I'm sick of having my life debated every 5 minutes.

I haven't reported any posts.

I haven't started, other than to give Good Law Project a little.

Humans (well, most...maybe) evolved socially beyond sexual reproduction driving all interpersonal interaction. It is what makes us human. Gender is how that evolution is manifested in culture for good or bad.

my post was deleted.

I probably know why but the fact that i only noticed by chance, and have had to ask mn why, is getting ridiculous. There should be a message to a zapped poster.

Trans people never lost any rights. They have always had exactly the same rights in law as other protected characteristics. Just stay out of ours.

that's your believ

My husband has known since our third date.

He pays himself 92,000 a year to continually lose cases more fool you.

Marie got deleted and warned of a ban i am blooming outraged by that, never a kinder person walked in our path.

Gender is how that evolution is manifested in culture for good or bad.

Please can you explain what you mean by that as it's just word salad.

Funny, that.

That's a handy wee sign, thanks!

I believe its all about hearts and minds these days, Igneo.

I think one post should post on AIBU now that would be a laugh and a half

Whats the deal boys?

It's only in the last 5-10 years that men claiming to be women have started in invading female places in noticeable numbers.
For a large % of the time, the press couldn't be arsed to report it. Women who tried to raise the issue were shouted down (remember the WiSpa case and the flack aimed at the woman who went to the desk about the man in the naked spa?)
And then it took a bit longer for lots of women to realise that it's a problem and start to make a fuss.

Unfortunately that's not quite the script, so for those of us taken unawares before we've understood trans identity politics what actually happens is more like this:

Mum, Dad, I think I'm transgender.

Oh! What does that mean?

I can't explain it.

...

Mum, Dad, I'm calling myself Petunia.

OK, Petunia, but we still see you as the man you are. You will always be the son we love, as you have been from the moment we met you.

Call me your daughter or you are a bigot. As a trans woman I don't associate with bigots. Why can't you be kind?

No, we're not prepared to be coerced into pretending you're our daughter. That would play havoc with our mental health.

Transphobes! You hate me and want me to be unhappy! Don't contact me or I will blame you for not respecting me.

OK, we will respect your request and minimise contact, but we love you and will occasionally message you, in the hope that our relationship can be rebuilt. That's likely to be a difficult painful process for us all, but we think you are worth that.

[What we fear, so hopefully untrue] You are not treating me as part of your family, so you obviously don't love me! [Maybe reality will reassert itself but in the meantime we are all in a state of ambiguous grief.]

Well if it's about the battle for hearts and minds, these men really should work on their people skills, because they are not winning anyone over. On the contrary. They're like an aggressive bull in a china shop. In fact, they do so many own goals they do 'sex realists' work for us. One read of this thread, and any possible trans supporters will run for the hills. I have only come across two transwomen with good people skills out of the thousands of transwomen I've engaged with online.

I agree, Hedgehog.
I sometimes think that threads like this are aimed at goading posters, and then getting people sanctioned or banned.

Im intrigued about what TRA next move will be.

What they seem to want is single sex services to exist, but have permission to use the opposite sex services.

But, by definition, the service becomes mixed sex, and therefore not fit for purpose.

Or if the service can be mixed sex, there wouldnt be a need for it to be single sex in the first place.

A single sex service cannot exist and include both sexes.

So are they going to campaign to remove all single sex spaces? Or are they going to attempt to have services organised by gender?

I think that they want to maintain the situation where they could enter female only spaces prior to all the lawfare

they shouted too loud and reap the consequences.

Oh no. You would be so very disappointed.

@onepostwonder

Where and when did you adopt your daughter?

The background checks can't have been very good if you put yourself down as a woman.

True, but the experiences of almost half of the 99% happen to overlap with my experiences.

Also, colon was only used back then in cases of complication. As far as I know, no one ever used a partial colectomy as their primary surgery.