Trans patient records medical team during cancer surgery

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www.nytimes.com/2025/12/01/nyregion/transgender-patient-records-during-cancer-surgery.html?smtyp=cur&utm_social_post_id=611783878&utm_social_handle_id=5281959998&smid=fb-nytimes

https://archive.ph/z8uok

Has this been shared? These pieces always reveal so much.

I didn't say they were people. Maybe they are. They could be bots?

This is becoming headache-inducing, even more than usual.

We know that you find it more comfortable to dismiss material reality. We get it.

You see, many of us posting on this board seek to understand the material reality you seem to reject. That is why we have these discussions. To sort through misinformation and falsehoods and gain an understanding of knowledge based on the evidence.

Male socialisation pops when it comes to arguing that belting women is fine.

That male with olympic level training will be fully aware he is a male.

There is no way he has gotten to his level of training without having multiple tests to check for olympics qualifying testosterone levels. No way he did not have medical investigations to work out why his body was producing male levels. Algerian has medical hospitals which do DNA testing.

None of the actual female boxers agreed to box males. If they all were told that the other person in the ring would be female.

He was the one who decided that he would get into a ring with a female boxer.

He could have opted to fight as a male against other males.

That was and is his "personal history and experience in the world"

It is very much still along the lines of ‘let’s see if I can find an in to convince female people to stop excluding me in particular.’

I was reading some social media interactions recently about those male people who go along with supporting keeping some male people out of female single sex provisions. They tell women that they support them etc. but then it turns out that they get upset when they are excluded too.

Sometimes it really feels like we are test subjects to trial arguments.

If you're purple with horizontal stripes, you're probably mine. I have the other in my odd-sock pile.

Ahhhh. Thank you, prof.

This is not how genetics work, you don't get an entire chunk of DNA disappear from every cell in the body from one test to another. You can test Khelif till the cows come home and he will still be a man.

Its always good to see the bs that gender identity idealogs are currently spouting, and I must admit that the current trend of calling us sex realists is quite amusing as I really don't think its having the effect that they wanted. I've had a couple of people asking what they mean and as soon as you explain that it means we don't believe that anyone can change their biological sex the response I've had is oh so sane people need a label now too do we 🤣.
When the vast majority of people disagree with your crazy harmful ideology it's really not a good look to try and name call and shame them, all it does is show them quite how crazy you and your ideology are. Operation let them speak is still going strong.

Makes me laugh when @onepostwonder says 'sex realists' with such disdain.

Surely he should be calling TRAs sex fantasists? Because that's the equivalent converse?

On one level, 'sex realist' is a simple pin-pointingly accurate label. Gender critical is so mushy. It does sit in my brain next to 'race realist,' because both sincerely held beliefs feel very similar to me.

We understand that you like to find as many ways to denigrate and demonise the women who reject that you are female in any way. You have effectively called us 'race realists' several times now in an attempt to align a repugnant belief set that is 'race realism' with the very well established and proven science that there are only two sexes and no male person can ever become a female person.

It is right up there with your attempts to align our support of this established science with homophobia and other things as well. For example, the way you attempt to shape concerns about safeguarding as being just like homophobia, and just like being against same sex marriage, when the points being made are completely irrelevant to those comparators.

Unfortunately for you, material reality will always prevail. There is no science that proves that one race is 'better' than the other or that one race has more capacity for intelligence or whatever negative concept it is you are using the term to mean.

There is no science that you have linked to support any claim of yours that you have become 'female' in any way either. There is however, plenty of established and proven science that there is two distinct sexes and that if you have the body of one sex you cannot become the other sex.

Just like your fall back mantra of 'you know nothing about my experience' or 'I know my body better than you do'. These are also highly hypocritical considering your assertions that you are female and have a female body and that you have been through a female puberty and so on.

Either way, your continued derisory attempts at framing evidenced arguments as being bigoted fails every time. It must make you feel better inside to do it. That way you can just keep dismissing people's points. But just like many of the points you have been making, they are not based on material reality.

Ig, this is a poster who doubles down that male breasts can be 'female breasts' based on simply shape, size and some similarities in composition. Who then rejects the fact that a female breast is connected to a completely integrated female reproductive system that monitors and controls milk production complete with feedback systems from their infant.

To some people, replacing testosterone with estrogen is all that is needed. Never thinking about the many other hormones and chemical interactions that happen to support the female breast. All happening controlled by a system that is not simply developed with 'estrogen'.

But apparently, we get told that we 'know nothing about my experience'. As if a male person taking supplements of estrogen can somehow magic a complete integrated system over decades of use.

I believe that a group of male people have used the fact that male people do have 'breast' and that with estrogen they can grow those breasts and that some male people can produce a substance to secrete from their breasts, to think that the male version of the breast is truly just like the female version. And through this body part, they can strengthen their claims to be female because to them this body part is a key to opening the gate to legitimacy of claiming to be female, so to speak.

These claims such as 'we will see' about Khelif are just bravado now. Because I don't believe that even Khelif believes he will be competing in the next Olympics.

This seems appropriate here

https://x.com/womenreadwomen/status/2025448741910479269?s=46

“Canadian taxpayers paid for a training video targeting nurses at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto.

Trans-identified male and BDSM fetishist Nina Arsenault was invited to show women how to respond to "trans women" who refuse to say that they are male.”

This was linked further down the thread too. It is an example of Operation: Let them speak. Yet, Arsenault falls into the fallacy trap where he defends his rejection of feminists saying no male person can be female with the tropish ‘well some women won’t have those body parts that the feminists are saying female people have’ line he trots out.

x.com/womenreadwomen/status/1659516917537976323?s=46