Isn’t AGP also what every woman experiences when they get dressed up & feel good about themselves?

[Theboredpanda]

I have no agenda here. I’ve always just been interested in exploring other perspectives of debates…although I’m sure this particular thought will get flamed on here and end up very one-sided indeed 🤣
I don’t believe every trans woman has AGP, but I believe a significant proportion do. And I’ve always considered that proportion to be creepy, I feel anger at the fact these men get to walk around, at least in some circles, socially accepted as women, just so they can satisfy a sexual fetish. However, I was thinking about how I feel as a woman who’s comfortable and happy about being a woman when I get dressed up in my favourite sexy outfit and put on some makeup. It makes me feel sexy. Not sexually aroused but I do feel sexy. Is that vastly different to what a trans woman feels like when they get dressed up and look (at least in their eyes) like a woman? Could it be that it’s either not AGP and we all feel sexy when we know we look good as the gender we are or want to be…or everyone’s a bit AGP when they think they look sexy because they therefore feel sexy? Or is this a totally unoriginal thought that’s already been troped out by TRAs and actually there is a huge difference??

I am currently wearing men's trackie dacs and a men's fleece.

I regularly wear men's clothes... and just like many women... nah.. I am not feeling that vibe. Just mighty warm and comfy in winter.

Eww.

Well, here's a confession. I and my male DP sometimes share clothes 😬

Before you get excited OP, I'm talking fleeces, jumpers, T shirts and thick woolly socks. Sexy or what!

Well that's freaked my dogs out!

I think it is a bit like foxes.

I can imagine that listening to that all night in a tent isn't much fun though.

Having said that they are cute!

Yeah…coming along with a flawed, half-baked premise and a transparent agenda then unsurprisingly being called out for it isn’t “proving your point”.

Think it through again then come back and try harder.

As far as clothing goes If it's (not too) dirty and it fits, keeps me warm when it's cold or cool when it's hot then I consider that a win

Very cute.

I can hand on heart say I have never been turned on by the thought of my own body or any item of clothing.

Only by another person.

Admittedly I do sometimes think 'hey these trousers make my arse look less like a saggy soufle than normal' by that's about it when it comes to feeling 'sexy'

They also have ever growing teeth. Because their teeth grind down with the grasses they eat, their teeth just keep growing.

...aaaaaaand the faux-naive-questioning mask is off.

That didn't take very long.

Utterly bizarrely, the Pre Raphaelites seem to have been obsessed with wombats -

https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/o-uommibatto-how-the-pre-raphaelites-became-obsessed-with-the-wombat/

Including this poem by Dante Gabriel Rossetti -

OH how the family affections combat
Within this heart, and each hour flings
a bomb at
My burning soul! Neither from owl nor from bat
Can peace be gained until I clasp my wombat.

Well done you, aren't you clever.

Have I missed the OPs masterdebate?

Dammit.

Dear Deidre

I'm currently in a man's viking tunic and I'm not wanking.

What's wrong with me!

TRAs really are a bit thick aren't they?

Note. I have not read the full thread.

The OP needs to understand that the whole point of AGP is that the person being turned on by the thought of being a woman is NOT FEMALE and is therefore not a woman. It is being turned on by something that you are not.

So think of it as being turned on by the thought of being the opposite sex.

Therefore, the reflection of AGP that a woman (female) could theoretically feel is autoandrophilia, or AAP: being turned on by the thought of being a man (but the person having the thought is female and not a man).

ETA - Sorry for the brief interlude. Please return to talking about wombats.

Oh don't be ridiculous. Its just that the rest of us understand the clear difference between feeling good about being sexually attractive to other people (normal), and being sexually attracted to ourselves (AGP).

I wouldn't like to be woken up by it😱but it sounds mildly irritated, it's not as ..elemental as I was expecting. Not as scary as a fox, which I believe may be the origin of the banshee's cry.

Taken one at a time, the wombat yells sound a bit like it's saying 'wow!' 'wow!' so maybe your one was impressed by your tent😃

Well that was quick! Didn't even give it 15 minutes before flouncing off. And ignored the thoughtful detailed reponse that arrived within10 minutes.

Are pandas more or less reactive than wombats?

@Shedmistress, why are you in a Viking tunic?

Ok cool.

No man has ever experienced being a woman so…

OP, after receiving many comments advising why there’s a difference.

Why isnt' the question "isn't it what every man expereinces when he gets dressed up"?, In some sort of manly attire that is.
And what happens when the manly attire includes oodles of lace, full skirted coats, waistcoats embroidered within an inch of their life and high heeled shoes with bows on them?

One might even be led to think that the issue is the differences between the humans not the wrappings.
But now I really want an 18th century attired wombat.

I mean fundamentally there's a difference between feeling sexy (attractive to others) and feeling attracted to yourself. I think it's that simple.