Isn’t AGP also what every woman experiences when they get dressed up & feel good about themselves?

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I have no agenda here. I’ve always just been interested in exploring other perspectives of debates…although I’m sure this particular thought will get flamed on here and end up very one-sided indeed 🤣
I don’t believe every trans woman has AGP, but I believe a significant proportion do. And I’ve always considered that proportion to be creepy, I feel anger at the fact these men get to walk around, at least in some circles, socially accepted as women, just so they can satisfy a sexual fetish. However, I was thinking about how I feel as a woman who’s comfortable and happy about being a woman when I get dressed up in my favourite sexy outfit and put on some makeup. It makes me feel sexy. Not sexually aroused but I do feel sexy. Is that vastly different to what a trans woman feels like when they get dressed up and look (at least in their eyes) like a woman? Could it be that it’s either not AGP and we all feel sexy when we know we look good as the gender we are or want to be…or everyone’s a bit AGP when they think they look sexy because they therefore feel sexy? Or is this a totally unoriginal thought that’s already been troped out by TRAs and actually there is a huge difference??

Thank you for this thread.

I haw a new phrase.

arguing with soup indeed.

the word is no mate. Stay out of women’s single sex spaces and understand consent.

whether you personally agree or disagree with a law, if you break the law, that is indeed a crime. Soz about that.

I think in an empty section that a couple of metres apart is close for a parent shopping with a teenager. I am usually not right beside my teen when shopping or with anyone I am shopping with.

Of course not, not should you need to be, but that distance was enough for an opportunist pervert to make a predatory move.

It's why women need to be constantly on the alert, and why we need spaces that men are not allowed to enter, for the times that we are vulnerable.

Overnight was clearly action-packed here, Grok no less! Even more impressive than his mum.

5 a.m.? You were on here til 5 a.m.?!

Is there nobody looking after this kid?

I sssumed with all the 'rest room', lack of knowledge of uk law, social customs and massive AI word salad that this 'kid' is not in tje UK. In face his posting style is very similar to a former regular FWR visitor from overseas

Is there any evidence of his having slept in the last 36 hours? Is he a human? Is his 'mum' Grok?

People said this was an MRA, but I'm fairly sure he was a young teen or tween.

A boy's rights activist, if the acronym wasn't unfortunate.

Possible, I suppose.

You've descended to personal comment now? Your posts have run their course. We're not buying any of it.

Yeah. The “Australian” vibes I got were very strong. At least if it’s him, he’s learned to use the quote function

Just to get you up to speed with some history education
https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/History-of-Womens-Public-Toilets-in-Britain/

If that was a human, I'd be quite concerned about DVT.

😁Damn I miss the laugh reaction (again)

You are the one making judgments about a man based on what he wears or his personality....by simply referring to him as 'feminine'. I was asking what constitutes 'femininity' in your view.

Someone who has no concept of other people's personal or private space and so ignores it can be guilty of harassment, for the reason that it is the subjective experience and feelings of the person having their boundaries violated that define the crime.

It was indeed far enough away for an opportunist to take advantage. It really is enlightening that this was the case that our visiting expert poster used as an example. Their description of it was rather strange and the defence was clearly someone who knew nothing about it or bra fitting.

In your narrow view. You can deny the laws or established rules all you like but you are equally as subject to them as anyone else. You can feel as virtuous as much as you like in your own mind.

Making gross and distorted generalisations because one cannot get to grips with the logical details is no excuse.

No they don't.

Is ‘politically correct’ a term used by kids today?

I do suspect the materhorn was climbed over the past 24 hours though.

See also just desserts

There's something grimly satisfying about watching an MRA lose their shit, though.

It never takes much, does it?

A few no's, some swift pointing out of male pattern behaviour

Gloves off, mask flung. Deletions everywhere.

I predict a banning...(probably not the first).

That will keep me chuckling all through my coffee

I have to say, what kind of person actually grows up imagining that it's a good argument to say the law is wrong, dictionary definitions are wrong, opinion is wrong, studies are wrong, statistics are wrong, polls are wrong, you and everyone else is wrong?

On any argument. Let alone one that's trying to get men access to vulnerable women and girls.

It's one thing to attempt to get your dodgy goals by stealth, it quite another to jump up and down on a trampoline while tattooing your intentions across your forehead in caps.

650 MPs agreed on that definition of harassment, on behalf of the UK electorate. You don't get to declare them wrong.