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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Isn’t AGP also what every woman experiences when they get dressed up & feel good about themselves?

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Theboredpanda · 20/01/2026 11:04

I have no agenda here. I’ve always just been interested in exploring other perspectives of debates…although I’m sure this particular thought will get flamed on here and end up very one-sided indeed 🤣
I don’t believe every trans woman has AGP, but I believe a significant proportion do. And I’ve always considered that proportion to be creepy, I feel anger at the fact these men get to walk around, at least in some circles, socially accepted as women, just so they can satisfy a sexual fetish. However, I was thinking about how I feel as a woman who’s comfortable and happy about being a woman when I get dressed up in my favourite sexy outfit and put on some makeup. It makes me feel sexy. Not sexually aroused but I do feel sexy. Is that vastly different to what a trans woman feels like when they get dressed up and look (at least in their eyes) like a woman? Could it be that it’s either not AGP and we all feel sexy when we know we look good as the gender we are or want to be…or everyone’s a bit AGP when they think they look sexy because they therefore feel sexy? Or is this a totally unoriginal thought that’s already been troped out by TRAs and actually there is a huge difference??

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ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:38

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:37

I think it's okay for a male or female employee to mention a service in a store, bra related or not. I'd say you're the unwell one for assuming the absolute worst intentions, thinking you can read minds and thinking that's a reason to slander people.

There was no need to mention a service that everyone knows about. There is only one reason a male approaches a child to talk about underwear, and you have to be very seriously unwell to not know what that reason is.

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:39

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/01/2026 04:39

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:37

I think it's okay for a male or female employee to mention a service in a store, bra related or not. I'd say you're the unwell one for assuming the absolute worst intentions, thinking you can read minds and thinking that's a reason to slander people.

I suspect the general public on both sides of the Atlantic would disagree with you on whether it’s ok for men to talk to teen girls about bra fitting services, but you do you. Your view is totally valid!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/01/2026 04:40

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its not the truth that they made it up. They got the details wrong.

ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:41

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There is only one reason a male approaches a girl to talk about 'bra fitting'. He fully intended to do it himself, and you and I and everyone knows it, so stop playing stupid. That he didn't get that far does not mean it wasn't his intention.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/01/2026 04:41

Grok can come out with whatever old nonsense and you lap it up. I made a point of finding out what the mother said and I went by that, not social media or AI.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/01/2026 04:42

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She’s not the troll here.

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:42

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/01/2026 04:43

I love MRAs finding their way to the feminist board of Mumsnet to spout MRA talking points and DARVO that regular posters are “trolls”.

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:44

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/01/2026 04:42

She’s not the troll here.

Saying that it's okay to accuse people of being pedos on a whim makes calling her a troll a positively nice thing. Why are you defending false accusations again?

ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:45

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Ummm.... every girl who has ever bought a bra knows you are to be fitted.

Projection and DARVO, You're the troll who is upsetting rape survivors on here and making excuses for men getting their penises out in front of women and girls, which says everything about you.

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/01/2026 04:43

I love MRAs finding their way to the feminist board of Mumsnet to spout MRA talking points and DARVO that regular posters are “trolls”.

I love nutcases who think it's okay to accuse people of being sex offenders when they didn't actually commit a crime. It's very sane and sensible, and definitely wouldn't result in a suing.

ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:45

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You really must think we women are stupid and don't know what men are about.

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:46

ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:45

Ummm.... every girl who has ever bought a bra knows you are to be fitted.

Projection and DARVO, You're the troll who is upsetting rape survivors on here and making excuses for men getting their penises out in front of women and girls, which says everything about you.

Many stores don't offer bra fitters, but either way, you're a liar. And defending lies.

ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:46

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:44

Saying that it's okay to accuse people of being pedos on a whim makes calling her a troll a positively nice thing. Why are you defending false accusations again?

I am calling out paedo-type behaviour. If one doesn't want to be accused of it, one doesn't promote behaviour that is of a paedo.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/01/2026 04:47

Reminder: this is a thread about autogynephilia. What brought you here @Skywinn?

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:47

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ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:47

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:45

I love nutcases who think it's okay to accuse people of being sex offenders when they didn't actually commit a crime. It's very sane and sensible, and definitely wouldn't result in a suing.

If a person doesn't want to be accused of something then that person shouldn't do or promote that thing. Quite simple.

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/01/2026 04:47

Reminder: this is a thread about autogynephilia. What brought you here @Skywinn?

What makes you defend false accusations and lies? Not a good look for your definitely not anti trans movement.

ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:48

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:46

Many stores don't offer bra fitters, but either way, you're a liar. And defending lies.

You're a male, what the fuck would you know about bra fitters? More gaslighting and DARVO and projection from you as you're the liar and mansplaining about a topic you know absolutely nothing whatsoever about.

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:49

ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:47

If a person doesn't want to be accused of something then that person shouldn't do or promote that thing. Quite simple.

No one promoted pedophillia. You would get sued making accusations like that. People get sued for less. It's called slander and libel.

ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:49

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So says a bigoted MRA predator.

ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:50

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:48

What makes you defend false accusations and lies? Not a good look for your definitely not anti trans movement.

What makes you call truth lies? Not a good look for your predatory MRA movement.

ThatBlackCat · 26/01/2026 04:51

Skywinn · 26/01/2026 04:49

No one promoted pedophillia. You would get sued making accusations like that. People get sued for less. It's called slander and libel.

Then don't promote males seeing girls in a state of undress in the ladies....

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