SNP in secret attempt to challenge Supreme Court ruling on sex

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I couldn't despise those fecking weasels more if I tried:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/89b42f06-fc36-4f06-98b1-d7b93c175463?shareToken=e40f182647b48214917896a4ae34328b

Reform are not very keen on the EA 2010 either. So it is being attacked from the left and the right. God help us all.

I'm convinced that Labour and the SNP want to lose at this point.

It's a line of thinking based on the idea that only men with trans identities have human rights. It is operating from within that very narrow misogyist viewpoint that is blind to wider options, by people who have very serious issues in coping with reality and delete facts they cannot manage.

What will fuck it up, is that unfortunately for them women also have those rights. And reality hasn't gone away.

And there is no bloody human right for a man to have a non consenting woman in a state of undress to express himself on. That is not a 'human right', that's a very serious problem between his ears that should not be indulged, no human has the right to use another or require them to expose their body for their gratification, whether it's emotional or sexual or existential, and with this population all three are involved. Fgs can we get this into the court of human rights?

Although once the court explains that women have rights too - as the Supreme Court did - we'll then abruptly see these idiots abandon the human rights act and courts because Wrong and secretly look for ways to fuck all that up too.

Secretly. We have Philipson and the SNP secretly, dishonestly, trying to destroy women's rights, because they know in the daylight it wouldn't be tolerated, they know that honestly and openly they could not do it. So they know it's wrong. Wtf has happened to Britain? Why are these people anywhere near positions of responsibility?

I would also add that it's too late now for the Equality Act. It was intended to provide equality of legal protections to vulnerable groups to protect them from the dominating interests of the powerful. Politicians of all parties have now helped to make clear that when the interests of those powerful people are proven in the supreme court of law to unacceptably conflict with the protections in the act politicians will manoever to subvert and avoid the act .

It's dead. It's finished. Laws only work when the political establishment are honest and ethical, and have respect for law and equality. That act means nothing now, it's pointless, it might as well go for all the good it will provide in protections.

No, Reform are no friend to women either. No party is at this point. And as we've seen with Labour, they are dishonest enough to make noises that suggest they might care about women when it's in their interests to do so, but Labour just frankly lie to your face and then do whatever they want without conscience, and the Tories make noises and write a few articles but quietly let it all crack on without doing anything. Libdems and the Greens are just all openly insane.

This!!!

Which crowd are all these politicians playing to?

Why are they going ahead with whats fairly certain self destruction?

It cant just be the inertia of an old idea because they could have wiped the slate clean with Sturgeon’s downfall or the SC judgment. Are these parties reliant on loads of true believer donors?

Yes, I think that's the only way they are able to try and bridge the yawning gap of cognitive dissonance. By inventing and hallucinating sheer twaddle and then trying to crowbar it into reality and hope nobody notices.

Someone's shown them how to use ChatGPT and so we're probably seeing the results as they think they can just say what they want to happen and ChatGPT will magically make it so.

Exactly. Why can't they concentrate their resources in providing adequate, separate provision in male prisons for any prisoners that they consider to be too vulnerable to be in the main estate?

I suspect it comes down to their firmly held belief that TWAW, therefore they are going to fight tooth and nail to keep them in women's prisons, regardless of the impact on female prisoners.

The TRAs accuse us of obsessing about genitals and chromosomes -which we don't - but this is exactly why facts matter.
Legislation can't be based on "self declaration" otherwise we'd have chaos.

The rules based order is breaking down and as a result politicians and others feel emboldened to be brazen in their disregard. As with Trump, if you say and do extreme and contrary things with impunity then the public simply stop expecting anything different, or better.

Some people are pushing for that sort of chaos, though, and see it as progressive and/or uber liberal. Anything so long as the established order is over-turned.

There is already a wing in Edinburgh that is used for 'transwomen' prisoners.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/womens-wing-jail-now-house-31080228

It was the female wing, but they needed somewhere for sex offenders. Women prisoners got dispersed across the country.

The obvious solution to vulnerable male prisoners is a special wing in a male prison.

Well, it is a wing in a male prison. But it was built to house women from the East Coast, initially.

Just out of interest - although facts are probably redundant here - how does anyone challenge a Supreme Court ruling ? It sounds like the premise for a scam to me.

The point is that there is already a wing - according to the Prison Inspector report, the best wing, in fact, newest and best equipped - available for transwomen.

The SNP has no need whatsoever to try to move heaven and earth to rehouse male criminals who say they are women. They are already housed.

https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/role/sovereignty/

'Parliamentary sovereignty is a principle of the UK constitution. It makes Parliament the supreme legal authority in the UK, which can create or end any law. Generally, the courts cannot overrule its legislation and no Parliament can pass laws that future Parliaments cannot change. Parliamentary sovereignty is the most important part of the UK constitution.'
...
'Over the years, Parliament has passed laws that limit the application of parliamentary sovereignty. These laws reflect political developments both within and outside the UK.
They include:

• The devolution of power to bodies like the Scottish Parliament and Senedd Cymru.
• The Human Rights Act 1998.
• The UK's entry to the European Union in 1973 - and subsequent exit in 2020.
• The decision to establish a UK Supreme Court in 2009, which ends the House of Lords function as the UK's final court of appeal.

These developments do not fundamentally undermine the principle of parliamentary sovereignty, since, in theory at least, Parliament could repeal any of the laws implementing these changes..'

Sorry, those are my boldings. Parliament is the only way to challenge a SC judgment, as far as I'm aware?

This all links to the TRA propaganda point that the SC did not consider human rights implications of its judgement - which it did. It also ignores the fact that women also have human rights and rights under international treaties not to be imprisoned with men. Sadly though, given the Labour governments response to the EHRC guidelines, I suspect they would love for there to be a ruling that it would breach certain male prisoners human rights not to be locked up with women.

Which is what my little brain thought.

So anyone who is drumming up "support" for "challenging the Supreme Court" is just (yet) another grifter. No question mark as I am presenting that as a statement of fact.

Looks like the SNP's latest attempt to treat women badly has forced the Scottish Greens to up their attempts to endanger women.

Listen to Greer's attempt to cover up for criminal men in dresses who rape and getting serious push back on BBC radio today! All on the ever expanding Scottish Greens being awful thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=11&

Because if they can get cock into womens prisons, they can get cock into ALL womens spaces.

TRA's set out to get cock into womens prisons very early on in this shit show because they identified this as once of the quickest & most effective ways to "prove" & enforce TWAW.

See also "Dentons document".

That the Isla Bryson debacle didn't flush the Scottish Greens into the North Sea is one of the great mysteries of the 21st century. The SNP hanging around like a drunk at the bar is more understandable, Scots still think the nationalists have their best interests at heart, Salmond and Sturgeon really put them on the map.
But the Scottish Greens? A more unappealing set of miscreants you couldn't hope to meet, with no political history or standout personalities.
How do they even stay relevant let alone significant after all that's gone down?

This is the only question I’ll be asking politicians about on the doorstep.

"doubling down" as a phrase doesn't quite do this batshittery sufficient justice.

When the Scottish Greens first came into being, many folk - such as my lovely, sedate aunty - voted for them because they saw them as a good, safe alternative to the main parties.

Somehow, they've been taken over by a bunch of raving lunatics but many people still don't realise that the Scottish Greens are different from those down south.