SNP in secret attempt to challenge Supreme Court ruling on sex

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I couldn't despise those fecking weasels more if I tried:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/89b42f06-fc36-4f06-98b1-d7b93c175463?shareToken=e40f182647b48214917896a4ae34328b

Oh FFS can we not just push them into the North Sea or something?

Oh I'm so angry with these fuckers.

The Violet Elizabeth “I’ll scweam and scweam until I get what I want “ is just sickening and scary

I'm not even going to read it.
Bastards

Why the actual fuck is the SNP so desperately invested in getting cock into women’s safe spaces? 🤔

Sturgeons legacy..

This is the hill they are prepared to die on; putting male prisoners into women's prisons, this is insane.

How does a lesser court make a declaration that overrules a higher court?

That's a very good question BrokenSunflowers. I doubt the SNP can answer it.

Specifically, vulnerable women’s spaces by violent male criminals.

Just why this one issue? Out of all the spaces to draw a line in the sand, you wouldn’t have thought it’d be to support the rights of convicted rapists and murderers 🤷‍♀️

SNP ministers are seeking a legal ruling declaring that implementing the Supreme Court’s landmark ruling on sex would unlawfully trample on the human rights of transgender criminals.

Aaah!!! They are like spoilt children!

They lost the support of the Scottish Greens. Presumably it's a desperate attempt to get them back on board.

The problem is in the upcoming elections no party is actually decent enough to win against them. So many glaikit people will just vote for SNP as that's who they always voted for. If Scottish Labour got their act together that might help, as prior to SNP being in the majority most of Scotland voters were Labour. Obviously there were pockets of Lib dem up in Islands and up far North. Conservatives have always been more represented in the Borders, some in Aberdeen and parts of Edinburgh/East coast.

It's never been enough to change to a different party as a majority for such a long time. The SNP have been in power so long and people keep voting them on it's going to take a big effort for opposition parties to turn the ship.

Even if a Scottish court issues a declaration of incompatibility, the law still stands and must be obeyed.

The UK government could appeal the declaration, all the way to the Supreme Court, if necessary.

They want to go to court to protect the "rights" (wishes, rather) of, how many, let's say half a dozen transgender criminals in Scotland - some of whom are incredibly violent. Imagine being locked up with "Tiffany" Scott! And in doing so, they are happy to throw away the actual rights of women. If it's just the criminal women, that's about 290 women they don't care about. If they want to extend this favouritism to all spheres of life, that's over 2.5 million of us.

This is to bankrupt FWS, who would then have to request a SC JR or appeal (I'm not sure which) of the lower court's declaration of incompatibility.

Utterly vindictive.

Do they seriously think that as long as they have their fingers crossed behind their backs that it is ok? What is it about this issue that brings on such insanity? Under no other circumstance would anyone dream of housing male murderers and rapists with vulnerable women. On this issue governments will break the law and ministers will endanger their careers to protect those murderers and rapists. Whyyyyy?

Keep in mind that the SG still haven't paid FWS the costs the SC ordered them to pay.

The SG openly defy the rule of law.

Its the dentons play book, get or in this case keep men in women's prisons and everything else will fall

I don't think they would. A declaration of incompatibility affects nobody except the UK government. The purportedly incompatible law still stands and must be obeyed, regardless.

Then it's up to the UK government itself to either change the law, if it accepts the declaration, or appeal it, if it thinks the law is good and wants it to stand.

I don't see how that affects FWS. I doubt whether they would even have standing to appeal a declaration of incompatibility.

For sure, the court will only grant a declaration of incompatibility if FWS win this judicial review, an outcome of which will be a requirement to change the policy, so it would actually be a victory of sorts.

Trans-identifying woman James Morton: "We strategized that by working intensively with the Scottish Prison Service to support them to include trans women as women on a self-declaration basis within very challenging circumstances, we would be able to ensure that all other public services should be able to do likewise."

So the Scottish govt are trying to force the Westminster govt to alter the EA?

Re standing: Doesn't FWS's status as a women's rights organisation give them that?

Scotland must be some kind of Utopia if getting male rapists banged up with vulnerable women is the most pressing issue they need to sort 🙄

I'm totally making this up, but I don't see it's about status. If there's a declaration issued then they could ask to be heard as intervenors, if the UK government appeals. But a declaration of incompatibility is an instruction from the court to the government. it's way over the head of any private organization like FWS, nor does it affect them.