Charlie Kirk assassin was living with trans roommate

[ThatZanyFatball]

May have been lovers, and sounds like he knew ahead of time that it was going to happen.

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source

I think this is even more likely in the US where there is no benefits safety net in the same way (please correct me if wrong).

I've seen that too. They've gone no contact except when they need financial support.

I do feel for the parents who must be desperate to keep up any kind of relationship, no matter how impossible the children are.

It does happen. It must be very unusual to share a room if so far apart ideologically, but a shared house or flat is possible.

Interesting and worrying article in Unherd

https://unherd.com/2025/09/the-science-behind-trans-violence/

I'm not convinced by the number crunching but agree it is a very complex area with so many parameters and relatively small sample sizes. I don't disagree that tp are more likely to be mass shooters, or overall more violent though. I wonder if the numbers were split by their actual sex, what that would show. Although that would make the sample size even smaller. It does show that young people who claim to be trans are being very poorly served by the medical establishment. It's desperately sad that they're not receiving good care. I worry that as they radicalised each other on-line and the cohort that are ROGD (for want of a better term) get older, perhaps see how transitioning hasn't made them happy, look for someone to blame (Charlie Kirk), can't deal with the aftermath (Catholic School shooter) we might inevitably see more of them.

Roommates are more like flatmates. I had roommates the first few months I lived in the US but we didn't share rooms, we all had our own. Does it say in any of the links that they shared?

The governor/FBI have said that they were in a romantic relationship.

The discussion elsewhere seems to have shifted from:

The NY Post? Are you that stupid that you believe Murdoch disinformation? There's no evidence the room-mate is trans or that they were in a romantic relationship!

to:

It would be best if we don't discuss any aspects of this case that relate to trans or relationships.

That never happened, and if it did, so what?

Well they have every reason, backed in evidence, to believe that they will.

Best not talking about families who continue to love and support their children even though they don't support their politics.

That's be like admitting they aren't quite as far right as some would have you believe...

Their young male neighbor said he saw them kissing and holding hands. They were in a romantic and sexual relationship. Supposedly Robinson had a previous trans lover.

Or how it can drive them into the arms of extreme ideas or behaviour.

I'm thinking of my brothers friends and how it was the ones from traditional right wing families who went 'off the rails' spectacularly as a backlash.

Was it left wing or right wing?

It seems to me that people are desperate to blame the "other" side so that they don't have to look at their own behaviour and make changes to it.

Yes, well observed

I think you need to look at a recurring theme; trans-antifa promoting violence. Armed Queers co-hosted a workshop with a trans Antifa gun club that was involved in an ICE facility shooting .
Also there are plenty of peaceful gay ex-Mormons.

I suspect there are going to be a LOT of arrests, including of people who technically had advanced knowledge of the crime but assumed it was a (sick) fantasy rather than something Robinson would actually go through with.

This particular crime will likely be recorded as left wing whilst people radicalised in similar online spaces who enact similar violent acts will be recorded as right wing. Ultimately the political label is less important than the root of the problem, which is alienated, marginalised youth falling into grievance soaked online rabbit holes and friendship networks where extreme violence is normalised.

How do we prevent adolescents taking on a ‘wound collector’ mindset and how do we help those who have already developed one to leave it behind?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/spycatcher/201509/on-wound-collectors

Fascinating. Not come across that term before.

Peaceful gay ex-Mormons. Which Lance Twiggs maybe referred to as 'idiot cisfags'?

Do we know if any of them had jobs?

I'm not convinced yet that Twiggs, isn't in a lot of trouble himself and THATS why he's 'cooperating' with the FBI.

I thought the word 'cooperating' was an interesting choice. Not 'assisting'. This suggests potential using information to inform on others to throw others under the bus - most notably Robinson who is their big target.

Some of the stuff circulating suggests there were things said by Robinson to Twiggs BEFORE the event and there seems to have been about five online accounts which made comment prior to the murder inferring something was about to happen in relation to Kirk and these were all within a very small community. If Robinson was acting alone, is this a plausible coincidence? I'm not convinced it is.

One tweeter a couple of days ago claimed to have gone through all the public records and newspaper reports about messages involving Robinson, Twiggs and other Discord members between 6th and 13th Sep (when he was arrested). At the time of the tweet, I couldn't verify most of what he said.

Half of it since has been reported by the BBC and other sources, so its proving to be accurate so far.

Theres a few remaining messages in this series which ask some pretty big questions of Twiggs. I am expecting them to be verified as accurate at some point tbh. I'm waiting to see how this develops and I'm open minded to nothing further appearing along these lines, but over the last couple of days the noise generally about the FBI investigating a wider group has got louder.

Robinson himself has not yet been formally charged (I think that supposed to be tomorrow). This is where the full charges against him will be known and thats going to be interesting.

Yes I thought that possibly they might be wanting to strongly send the message that Twiggs is “cooperating” fully to put the wind up any other less involved co-conspirators who might decide to also help them out in the hope of clearing themselves.

As the guy said on the video @TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown posted yesterday, the fact that apparently Robinson sent him a bald text telling him where to find the gun and there is no apparent response asking what he means or what is going on is interesting.

Formal charging is later today: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/charlie-kirks-accused-assassin-faces-initial-court-hearing-formal-charges-utah-2025-09-16/

DH has pondered the idea of Antifa gun lovers using the 2nd Amendment as a legal defence at some point.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Can you imagine the militant left using the 2nd to say they have a legitimate right to take up arms and defend themselves against authority which tries to oppress them through tyranny, and how the militant right who are wedded to the 2nd might implode at the prospect.

Thanks for that.

So press briefing, newly filed court documents and the charges themselves to hit this evening (Uk time).

Will be interesting.

This particular crime will likely be recorded as left wing whilst people radicalised in similar online spaces who enact similar violent acts will be recorded as right wing. Ultimately the political label is less important than the root of the problem, which is alienated
No, there is no right wing trans violent underground group. There isn't a right wing gay one.
It's Marxism that promotes violence.
And the problem isn't 'alienation' but pornography consumption plus grooming of mentally ill youth. There have been I believe 5 mass shootings in the US by trans young people .