Charlie Kirk assassin was living with trans roommate

[ThatZanyFatball]

May have been lovers, and sounds like he knew ahead of time that it was going to happen.

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source

‘It's highly, highly unlikely some random trans person developed the skills to be able to shoot a sniper gun from half a KM away from a rooftop. You need years and years of military training to achieve that sort of aim.’

Who told you that?
All the experts I have read online/people in RL with a little firearms experience have agreed it was an easy shot which could have been done by a relative novice. A 20 year old with many years experience hunting, no problem.

Fuck me dead!

It's quite scary that there are people out there believing this kind of conspiracy theory bollocks.

It was only a matter of time that some anti semite conspiracy theorist nutjob tried to point the finger at Israel over CK assassination.

This is why there are cases of actual or attempted political assassinations (from left and right).

The OP is unsubstantiated gossip. Until actual, solid, reliable information comes out, it's irresponsible to spread such rumours. The fact the Sunday Times and other mention "reports of" without backing it up is no evidence of it's truth or untruth. It's just speculation by a relative of a flatmate, as sexed up by a tabloid for more sensational headlines.

The Mossad conspiracy theory is a whole new level of batshit.

As a society I do think we need to talk about the fact that many vulnerable young people, with additional needs such as ASD or depression/aspergers etc have been lied to by medical professional.....lied to by people older than them, lied to by their very teachers in school and been told they are trans, when they are actually just struggling to fit in with societal expectations of how to be a male or female. These young people have been subject to surgeries and hormones which aren't helping them....they are angry and they have guns. Some have extreme views and wish death to people who are just telling the truth.

Why spread misinformation like this?

I live in the UK. My dc attends cadets, where she has learned to shoot a rifle. And she enjoys it as she’s a good shot. She’s also pretty good at clay pigeon shooting. We are not republicans.

I don’t think you can diagnose political belief or bigotry or anything else from the fact that someone is a good marksman. In the US, particularly in the southern states, guns are a massive part of the culture. Personally, I think that US gun laws are unhinged but that’s beside the point - it’s pretty normal to own a gun there and pretty normal to be a decent shot, particularly if you hunt.

IF this is true then it may point to a possible motive. IF TR was gay and was bought up in a religious conservative household then it will have had a negative impact on his Mental Health.
I imagine being gay is incredibly difficult in families like that

Absolutely - it's a long list - GPs, politicians, medical researchers.

There are quite determined efforts online to pin this crime on various different groups. I don't think enough is known just yet but IF it is true he has a close trans friend and IF it is true that the US far right are anti trans (which I think it is - not in a gender critical way but in a gender enforcing way) then it would tend to rule out badging this as a far right crime.

Read the article; it seems to be based on a lot more than that.

Pot. Kettle. Black..comes to mind.

No, but such factors can point to the atmosphere of the cultural milieu in which one lives.

This post is indicative of someone having entered into the orbit of, and being sucked down into, a very large conspiracy vortex.

I sometimes hate the way this board stoops and grasps. The notion that because something is “ widely reported” it’s more than speculation is ludicrous. Just leave it - hopefully the facts will come out at the trial.

This post is not completely insane if the full stop if the first line is a typo 🤨👀
"this is infuriating bullshit :"

Antisemitism.

It’s an age-old trope, blaming everything on the Jews.

At least in this instance there is actually going to be a trial (as often in these sorts of scenarios the perpetrator is dead leaving questions unanswered).

Well, hopefully there will be a trial, fingers crossed he’s being kept physically safe (including from himself) in jail.

Nobody is "stooping". They are responding to the thread starter. There does seem to be an indication that the assassin was living with a male who was identifying as a woman. This tells us nothing definitive, but it does potentially point towards some of the sort of surrounding culture/atmosphere that the assassin was inhabiting and how that may have encouraged him to do what he did.

my comment refers only to the word innocently, you don’t teach a child to use a gun innocently

its purposeful…whether its for protection, crime or hunting

Perhaps. It can sometimes just be the appeal of "knowing" things that other people don't.

My thanks to the OP.
And to the other person who added the conspiracy theory.

Yes it is speculation.

But I'm glad to hear it so i can judge for myself how much salt to add to the tale.

I think it is really good MN isn't a rumour policing echo chamber.

Does it? I didn’t realise there was a Sunday Guardian….

Innocently means ‘not guilty of a crime or offence’ or ‘without responsibility for or direct involvement in an event yet suffering its consequences’.

That is, the parents were not guilty of any crime or offence when they taught their child how to hunt, nor were they directly involved in their son’s decision to use those skills to murder someone.

I think you’re getting confused by the difference in meaning between the adverb and the adjective.

I assume the poster is referring to this article which was published today. It doesn't confirm anything, just summarises what other outlets are reporting:

"The FBI declined to comment about reporting on Saturday including by conservative media outlets Fox News and the New York Post, citing law enforcement sources, that Robinson lived with a partner who was trans – a member of a community against whom Kirk rallied – and was cooperating with investigators.

Meanwhile, citing a half-dozen of its own sources familiar with the case, the left-leaning Axios said authorities were investigating whether Robinson believed Kirk’s views on gender identity were “‘hateful’ to people like Robinson’s transgender roommate”."