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Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved with Transgender, Antifascist Ideology

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defrazzled · 11/09/2025 16:06

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/ammunition-in-kirk-shooting-engraved-with-transgender-antifascist-ideology-sources-pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b

A young father shot dead, this is horrifying.

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TheCatsTongue · 13/09/2025 20:59

Pomni · 13/09/2025 20:56

And what of what he wrote on the bullet casings?

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Yes, stuff moaning about fascists, who are deemed to be far-right. So therefore bullets to kill fascists would make someone the opposite of far-right.

Pomni · 13/09/2025 21:04

TheCatsTongue · 13/09/2025 20:59

Yes, stuff moaning about fascists, who are deemed to be far-right. So therefore bullets to kill fascists would make someone the opposite of far-right.

Sigh.

The fascist one is a reference to a computer game popular with the far right.

All the references are online memes consistent with the far right.

Please read the post I wrote above for detail.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 21:08

nauticant · 13/09/2025 20:53

So let's see, if a teacher showed a video of the assassination to children, and the assassination was a far Right job, then that would make the teacher far Right.

That's how it works according to how we've been set right in this thread, right?

Everyone concerned was “far right” apparently, I expect the trans boyfriend in his animal dressing gown was too.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 21:10

Pretty sure that game wasn’t just popular with the “far right” from everything I’ve read.

RingoJuice · 13/09/2025 21:10

Pomni · 13/09/2025 21:04

Sigh.

The fascist one is a reference to a computer game popular with the far right.

All the references are online memes consistent with the far right.

Please read the post I wrote above for detail.

The first is consistent with having a gay furry boyfriend, which he seems to have.

SionnachRuadh · 13/09/2025 21:12

RingoJuice · 13/09/2025 21:10

The first is consistent with having a gay furry boyfriend, which he seems to have.

I predict that, by tomorrow, the NPCs will have got their upgrade and it will turn out to all be the fault of Robinson's conservative religous family, who did not embrace his forbidden love.

TheCatsTongue · 13/09/2025 21:22

Pomni · 13/09/2025 21:04

Sigh.

The fascist one is a reference to a computer game popular with the far right.

All the references are online memes consistent with the far right.

Please read the post I wrote above for detail.

So Helldivers 2 is far-right, gamers are far-right, shooter is far-right, Charlie Kirk is far-right etc. Is trans far-right?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 21:28

We’re all far right now 😂

TheCatsTongue · 13/09/2025 21:28

As has been said over many threads (from the sensible normal people at least) is that you may not agree with Kirk's views, but that doesn't mean he should be killed for it.

Whereas we have the terminally online trying to find evidence of why his assassination was justified, and we have a shooter who clearly didn't like Kirk and killed him.

Only with people who believe men are women and women are men, do we get the ideas that he wasn't killed because of opposition to his views, but because anti-fascist sentiment is actually sign of fascism, and that he was killed by a supporter.

SionnachRuadh · 13/09/2025 21:29

I'm also considering that he came from the St George area, and seems not have been outside it very much. St George is an odd kind of place. It's a bit geographically isolated - four hours drive from metro Salt Lake - and almost everyone there is Mormon. It has a kind of stodgy conservatism that a bright young man would want to rebel against.

But if you're a right-leaning online edgelord from that culture, your natural environment is DezNat. And, although Utah authorities have been warning against DezNat for years, I've never seen any evidence of it having a violent element. Its main activity is winding up Mormon church leaders by creating funny memes based on 19th century doctrines that the church finds embarrassing.

A young man who's dropped out of church, dropped out of college for unknown reasons, appears to have a gay furry boyfriend and was constantly fulminating about Charlie Kirk "spreading hate" - it seems much more likely that he leaned to the left. Though it might be a very idiosyncratic meme-heavy leftism that he's DIYed for himself.

Signalbox · 13/09/2025 21:38

If what pp is saying is true we have a far right assassin being widely cheered on by the left on BlueSky and TikTok. It must be very confusing for all concerned. To cheer or not to cheer. 😵‍💫

Pomni · 13/09/2025 21:40

TheCatsTongue · 13/09/2025 21:28

As has been said over many threads (from the sensible normal people at least) is that you may not agree with Kirk's views, but that doesn't mean he should be killed for it.

Whereas we have the terminally online trying to find evidence of why his assassination was justified, and we have a shooter who clearly didn't like Kirk and killed him.

Only with people who believe men are women and women are men, do we get the ideas that he wasn't killed because of opposition to his views, but because anti-fascist sentiment is actually sign of fascism, and that he was killed by a supporter.

You're so myopic it's actually insane.

I'm a GC feminist not a TRA FFS.

No one is saying he was killed by a supporter. Where did you get that from? Maybe try reading about it again. Start by understanding Groypers.

LesbianNana · 13/09/2025 21:47

TheCatsTongue · 13/09/2025 21:22

So Helldivers 2 is far-right, gamers are far-right, shooter is far-right, Charlie Kirk is far-right etc. Is trans far-right?

😂Funny how all the far-right people only seem to shoot the far-right people. Living with your trans partner, like this fella, is now far-right.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 22:13

Pomni · 13/09/2025 21:40

You're so myopic it's actually insane.

I'm a GC feminist not a TRA FFS.

No one is saying he was killed by a supporter. Where did you get that from? Maybe try reading about it again. Start by understanding Groypers.

You don’t have any evidence, it’s just your personal interpretation of the bullet casings. You confidently said at first (then you walked it back) that he “spent his time online” in far right spaces. Where is the evidence for this? You’re just spreading biased internet nonsense.

thatsthewayitis · 13/09/2025 22:15

Newer photos of his boyfriend, definitely a furry. He's wearing tie under the chin fabric hats with animal ears and eyes 🤮 in public not a party.
Left-trans-furry

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 22:15

It reminds me of Imane Khelif and the Russian Conspiracy to lie about a “cis woman”. Which was also TRA internet nonsense made up by one or two people which spread like wildfire.

LesbianNana · 13/09/2025 22:15

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 22:13

You don’t have any evidence, it’s just your personal interpretation of the bullet casings. You confidently said at first (then you walked it back) that he “spent his time online” in far right spaces. Where is the evidence for this? You’re just spreading biased internet nonsense.

The reaching to make this a far-right person is absurd.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 22:16

It really is. Whatever he may or may not turn out to have been motivated by, there’s so much fake news being breathlessly repeated as fact.

Pomni · 13/09/2025 22:20

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 22:13

You don’t have any evidence, it’s just your personal interpretation of the bullet casings. You confidently said at first (then you walked it back) that he “spent his time online” in far right spaces. Where is the evidence for this? You’re just spreading biased internet nonsense.

The evidence is

a. the references are specifically from online meme culture. It's not my personal interpretation. I've never played Helldiver 2! The internet is full of people who do understand the references pointing out what they mean, and it's been reported by credible sources.

b. friends reporting that he spent a lot of time online.

Pomni · 13/09/2025 22:21

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 22:15

It reminds me of Imane Khelif and the Russian Conspiracy to lie about a “cis woman”. Which was also TRA internet nonsense made up by one or two people which spread like wildfire.

Eh? It was entirely obvious that Khelif is a man.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 22:23

Yes, he spent a lot of time online, and? Is everyone who spends a lot of time online “far right” now?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 22:25

Pomni · 13/09/2025 22:20

The evidence is

a. the references are specifically from online meme culture. It's not my personal interpretation. I've never played Helldiver 2! The internet is full of people who do understand the references pointing out what they mean, and it's been reported by credible sources.

b. friends reporting that he spent a lot of time online.

There isn’t the consensus on those messages that you think there is. I knew about the references and heard what they meant, as the press conference was happening because I was reading internet sites which know the origins these references, like you. I didn’t have to wait for them to be posted on Bluesky or reported in the Guardian.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 22:27

You sound like you’ve read a few people’s interpretations in your filter bubble, and not heard any contrary ones.