Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved with Transgender, Antifascist Ideology

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https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/ammunition-in-kirk-shooting-engraved-with-transgender-antifascist-ideology-sources-pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b

A young father shot dead, this is horrifying.

You might to look a few posts up.

He reportedly had a trans ID boyfriend. More likely a trantifa type. Hear hooves, think horses.

He also reportedly spent his time online in far right communities and inscribed the bullet casings with far right memes.

Are you quite sure you're not letting confirmation bias cloud your judgement here?

Did you just create your account? I'm not sure you realize how suspicious that makes your heavily invested posting on this subject.

There's a subset of US Democrats who were driven absolutely insane by their defeat in 2016. Go onto certain subreddits - not even communist ones, but subs full of Harris voters - and there's a constant thrum of assassination talk, "wouldn't it be great if [X] were taken out".

Overwhelmingly it's just talk, but you've got a significant number of people who have been marinating in this talk for up to ten years. I think some of them will never recover their mental health. And a few might feel like acting on the rhetoric.

That's without even getting into the extremist fringe, or the trans/antifa convergence that happened in about 2020.

Which isn't to say the American right doesn't also have a violent fringe, and they're less likely to live in blue states with strict gun laws.

But Occam's razor says that, if Kirk's killer has any ideology at all, he's more likely to come from that section of the political spectrum that's been bombarding Kirk with death threats for years.

We know all this stuff, but thanks for your input. It’s all speculation as to what motivated him but I’m sure all your subreddits think they know.

Nope. I've been here since it was all fields. Best part of 20 years now. I remember Cod, the great exodus or whatever it was called, I forget now (I wasn't part of the in crowd), penguin bollards etc etc.

Please go ahead and report me to Mumsnet if you think I'm a troll, they'll put you right.

I'm not on Reddit but thanks.

Please link to the evidence where he “spent his time online” rather than what people on social media reckon.

Occam's razor says that, if Kirk's killer has any ideology at all, he's more likely to come from that section of the political spectrum that's been bombarding Kirk with death threats for years.

You're showing your bias / ignorance again. Far right Groypers have been threatening him for years.

Indeed, multiple Groypers have been arrested for threatening Kirk. One notable case involved a Groyper who called in a bomb threat to a TPUSA event, leading to imprisonment. Another was arrested for directly threatening to kill Kirk.

These incidents stem from the 2019 disruptions, where online coordination turned into real-world intimidation. X posts and reports confirm at least three such arrests tied to anti-Kirk actions.

During events, Groypers shouted insults and physically confronted Kirk's team, forcing early endings (e.g., a 2019 incident where they "chased" him from his own event). Fuentes himself has called Kirk "spiritually evil" and lied about threatening Kirk's family on his show.

Online, Groypers have posted memes and posts framing Kirk as an existential threat to "real conservatism," with rhetoric like "war" against him.

Tyler Robinson was enmeshed in an online culture that I'm going to assume not many people on here are familiar with.

If you want to know what his motivations were, or what actually happened, I suggest you try dial down the knee jerk reactions and attempts to overlay your bogeymen / ways of thinking onto this event and instead try to learn a bit about what's actually going on out there.

How much do you know about online alt right radicalisation?

The Utah governor said he was very involved in far left politics. His high school friends say he became very left as a sophomore.
His boyfriend was trans and there's a photo of the boyfriend in a childish hooded animal bathrobe. So also probably a furry.
Far left pro trans violence.

It’s quite obvious that the pp is just parroting stuff. The trans boyfriend story looks legit, whether it motivated Robinson or not.

LOL the projection! How about you check your confirmation bias. You have zero evidence of his motivation.

Yes, a lot of people rushed to pin this on the left.

The Guardian also reported that a friend said he was "leftist" . They've since deleted it as it turns out this was unreliable.

The words on the actual casings found at the scene and understanding the culture they come from is much more credible evidence in my opinion, than claims that he had a trans boyfriend and your assumptions about what that means.

Either way, we will all need to wait for more evidence to really understand his motivations, but dismissing far right influence when the slogans he wanted the world to read point to them seems beyond naive to me.

His live in boyfriend is a trans identified male. More people who know his politics have suggested he was leftist than the one the Guardian spoke to. The Guardian is renowned for lying about US trans/antifa stuff.

I think the jury’s out on his motivation personally, but there is only online speculation for the “spent his time in far right spaces” claim you made isn’t there? Otherwise you’d be able to link to something.

I hope this isn't true.

'A TDSB teacher showed the video of the Kirk assassination to 11-year-olds.
One parent says: “While playing this video repeatedly, he gave a speech to his students regarding anti-fascism, anti-trans, and how Kirk deserved for this to occur.”'

https://x.com/joshdehaas/status/1966662930067243174

Toronto Sun reported it, seems legit but how could a teacher have such a lack of judgement as to show 10-year-olds …

I'm speechless...

That’s horrific. I think some of the sackings have been harsh but I would fully support in that case if this is true, if not some kind of prosecution.

Sure.

So let's see, if a teacher showed a video of the assassination to children, and the assassination was a far Right job, then that would make the teacher far Right.

That's how it works according to how we've been set right in this thread, right?

This is turning into the very definition of the culture wars, it's like supporters of rival football clubs, desperate to blame one side against the other.

Charlie Kirk was on the right, so naturally the instinct would be to blame the left, many of which are openly celebrating his murder. Evidence so far seems to point towards radical left ideology, particularly with the trans link.

And what of what he wrote on the bullet casings?