Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved with Transgender, Antifascist Ideology

251 replies

defrazzled · 11/09/2025 16:06

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/ammunition-in-kirk-shooting-engraved-with-transgender-antifascist-ideology-sources-pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b

A young father shot dead, this is horrifying.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
15
defrazzled · 12/09/2025 17:15

I think that Tyler Robinson was emulating Louis Mangione with the engraving. It's terrifying that people are dying for their opinions.

OP posts:
RingoJuice · 12/09/2025 17:46

First bullet has a furry reference, apparently. Thankfully not familiar with that subculture 🤮

GoldThumb · 12/09/2025 17:48

WeirdyBeardyMarrowBabyLady · 12/09/2025 17:02

I will fully concede that I was wrong to assume there was no truth in the engraved bullets story. Not something that should be leaked to press of course but clearly it was true.

Also clear that a very much planned and pre-meditated incident.

Too many outlets were reporting it for there to be nothing in it, I think.

Bagsintheboot · 12/09/2025 18:14

RingoJuice · 12/09/2025 17:46

First bullet has a furry reference, apparently. Thankfully not familiar with that subculture 🤮

The "notices bulge..." wording is from a meme parodying furries and is an old copy-pasta online.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/notices-bulge-owo-whats-this

I don't think we can draw any inference that he was associated with furry culture from the use of that meme.

Notices Bulge / OwO What's This? | Know Your Meme

Notices Bulge / OwO What's This? is a copypasta parodying both furries and online roleplay subcultures, which is typically used online as a method of troll

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/notices-bulge-owo-whats-this

BaronMunchausen · 13/09/2025 10:54

Seems the 'trans' engraving on the cartridge cases may have actually been the manufacturer part of the headstamp - "TRN" for TuRaN Ammo.

SinnerBoy · 13/09/2025 15:21

I don’t think that there's necessarily anything nefarious about Epstein having "links" to Mossad. They contact all kinds of Jewish people in other countries and ask them to keep an ear to the ground.

I really do not think that they'd bump off a foreign gobshite, let alone find some local kid and hope for the best.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 13/09/2025 15:43

RayonSunrise · 12/09/2025 15:20

Yep. Sounds like the rantings of an online edge lord. Can’t quite believe how many people were convinced he was a trans identified male based on the “reports” that the bullets were covered with trans ideology.

I’m glad we have an official statement so the rumour mill can wind back down now.

How many were convinced of that?

nauticant · 13/09/2025 15:54

BaronMunchausen · 13/09/2025 10:54

Seems the 'trans' engraving on the cartridge cases may have actually been the manufacturer part of the headstamp - "TRN" for TuRaN Ammo.

I think it was the use of a meme about furries on one of the casings which led people to assume Robinson was aligned with part of LGBTQ+ when it's possibly more likely that that was an ironic usage, possibly just for LOLs.

nauticant · 13/09/2025 15:56

Seems killer is far right.

I'd be interested to see the evidence for this claim.

BaronMunchausen · 13/09/2025 16:11

cestlavielife · 13/09/2025 15:55

WSJ Torched for False Report of ‘Trans Ideology’ on Charlie Kirk Shooter’s Bullets, Muted Retraction: ‘So Little Accountability’ https://share.google/oPpm0ZK0npfreYRVo

Seems killer is far right.
Misinformation spread.

Where does the linked article say the killer is far-right?

Edit: just reading about "Groyper"... though it seems to be speculation at this point.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 16:17

defrazzled · 12/09/2025 17:15

I think that Tyler Robinson was emulating Louis Mangione with the engraving. It's terrifying that people are dying for their opinions.

There have been lots of similar signatures. See this very interesting article.

https://www.garbageday.email/p/charlie-kirk-was-killed-by-a-meme

Making sense of our dark new era of extremely online political violence

Charlie Kirk was killed by a meme

Making sense of our dark new era of extremely online political violence

https://www.garbageday.email/p/charlie-kirk-was-killed-by-a-meme

nauticant · 13/09/2025 16:17

The messages on the bullet casings:
"Notices, bulges, OwO what's this?" - furry related, possibly piss-taking of that group
"Hey fascist! Catch!" - possibly Antifa coded
an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows - possibly gamer coded
"Oh Bella, ciao, bella, ciao Bella ciao ciao ciao." - possibly Antifa coded
"If you read this, you are gay LMAO" - possibly shitposting coded

I wouldn't reach on conclusions on Robinson's motivations based on that.

SionnachRuadh · 13/09/2025 16:35

There are lots of ideologues who are very busy trying to shoehorn this into a preferred ideological framework, and to be honest they'd learn something just by watching Heathers. It predates shitposting culture but it absolutely gets the mentality.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 16:41

nauticant · 13/09/2025 15:54

I think it was the use of a meme about furries on one of the casings which led people to assume Robinson was aligned with part of LGBTQ+ when it's possibly more likely that that was an ironic usage, possibly just for LOLs.

Edited

This.

thatsthewayitis · 13/09/2025 17:44

Just reading that Tyler Robinson lived with a male partner who is transitioning to female who is now talking to the FBI...

Abhannmor · 13/09/2025 17:55

Translation - he is a gay lad with Mormon parents. Looks better if his partner is a 'woman'. He gave $225 to Trump's campaign five years ago. Seems like he had a Damascene conversion recently? His own testimony would be interesting.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 17:56

Signalbox · 13/09/2025 17:44

👀

“Charlie Kirk’s alleged shooter Tyler Robinson was living with a transgender partner who was in the process of transitioning from a male to a female, a law enforcement source confirmed to The Post Saturday.”

https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/

Anything else other than 👀 would be superfluous, so I’ll leave it at that.

petermaddog · 13/09/2025 18:04

cases not the bullet it self

SionnachRuadh · 13/09/2025 18:13

I'd be cautious about him being a Trump donor, not that it's impossible, but five years ago, when he was 17, he wouldn't have been able to make a legal donation. I've seen it claimed elsewhere that he made a similar donation in 2016, when he would have been 13 (!)

It seems that the Republican voter registration that's been going around the internet actually belongs to another Tyler Robinson. It's not a particularly unusual name.

Just being cautious about what is news and what is speculation. Especially since Charlie Kirk received multiple death threats from the left, and since he's now dead lots of people are very invested in the murder being an internecine right wing thing.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2025 18:23

Yes, I think the other guy is in his 30s.

RingoJuice · 13/09/2025 18:58

Not really very surprising to hear he had a transgender partner.

Pomni · 13/09/2025 19:15

No, the shooter wasn't a TRA or Antifa. The evidence emerging strongly suggests he was to the right of Charlie Kirk and influenced by online far right subcultures.

This is just like the TV show Adolescence, when the adults didn't understand the young people's culture and so misinterpreted what they were saying to each other online. In real life now, adults have misunderstood the references here and jumped to the conclusions they expected (or even wanted) to see.

There are 4 things reported as being written on the casings:

  1. Hey Fascist! Catch!" accompanied by downward arrows (↓↓←)

This isn't an Antifa slogan but instead a direct reference to Helldivers 2, a 2024 cooperative shooter game where players control elite soldiers fighting alien threats in a satirical, over-the-top fascist "Super Earth" regime. The arrows represent the controller input sequence (down, down, left) to call in a 500kg orbital bomb stratagem, a powerful airstrike used in the game to obliterate enemies. This game is popular with white supremacists (and others). Tyler Robinson was active on Discord servers focused on gaming (including Helldivers 2) and meme culture.

Helldivers 2's subreddit was temporarily locked following the incident due to heated debates and doxxing attempts. Some analysts link this to "Groyper" culture, a far-right, meme-heavy movement led by Nick Fuentes, who has publicly feuded with Kirk for being insufficiently extreme (e.g., the 2019 "Groyper Wars" where Groypers trolled Kirk's events).

2. notices bulge OWO what's this?"

Far-right online spaces (e.g., incel or alt-right forums) commonly use memes like this to demean their targets.

It's almost certainly taking the piss out of LGBT people, not supporting them. It's a crude, sexualized meme that started in furry and anime online communities, often used to mock or sexualize others in a infantilizing way. But these days, it's often used in trolling contexts on platforms like 4chan or Discord to harass LGBT people, furries, or perceived "degenerates," with homophobic and transphobic undertones.

3. If you read this, you are gay LMAO

No TRA is going to write this! It's a straightforward homophobic taunt, common in anonymous online trolling. Kirk's vocal opposition to "grooming" narratives and LGBT visibility (e.g., his Turning Point USA events) means this could be a targeted jab, although it could simply be brainless trolling. What it's not, is something an LGBT supporting TRA or Antifa would say.

4. Bella Ciao
On the surface this may sound overtly anti-fascist element (as it's an anti fascist song) but in context, it can also be linked to Groyper memes mocking "fake conservatives" like Kirk, or Helldivers 2 fan content where the song is remixed for in-game propaganda. It's definitely not exclusively left-wing in modern meme usage.

There are no credible links between Tyler Robinson and the left. It's misinterpretation jumped on and whipped up by people who really want an excuse to have a go at the left.

Pomni · 13/09/2025 19:17

CrocsNotDocs · 11/09/2025 21:53

Let me guess. It was Mossad. Jesus Christ.

Charlie Kirk received endless threats of violence from the far left and Antifa but it can’t be that obvious, can it?

And also from the far right - Goypers.

There is no evidence the far left were involved, but a fair bit emerging that the shooter was likely emerged in online far right subcultures.