Posting upton’s old photos and name on twitter

[Biggadyboom]

Look I’ve been in these discussions since before this forum existed. You don’t need to break it down for me. I peaked in 2018.

But the endless sharing of upton’s name accompanied by photos and horrible comments about him and his wife is not nice. It is totally is transphobia. It’s horrible.

I could kind of understand the point of it, if it was just the name being shared.

But equally the court has ruled that Upton has a right to privacy. I thought it was all about respecting court’s rulings?

but the sharing of private photos (presumably grabbed from social media) and especially their wedding photo with insults to both of them and speculation about their marriage is awful and will not help their be a resolution to this debate. It polarises it even more and is transphobia.

fair enough, don’t let Upton change the rules of the country and workplace based on personal beliefs . But that doesn’t involve posting personal information and photos , insults and horrible speculation.

or are we just going low now?

@Biggadyboom Biggadyboom · Today 11:15
someone asked what I consider transphobia
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I can't see this at all. There's probably loads I can't see as I don't have a big following. If your issue is with locked accounts, there's probably not much you can do except ask over there?

Thanks for the advice, I'll avoid posting anything negative about Hitler in future because he thought he was in the right, and who am I to disagree?

I clicked on this earlier for a look but it said the page doesn't exist

If you post photos of yourself on social media, particularly an open platform like TwiX, they are by definition no longer private and are available to be shared by anyone for any purpose. It's why I'm on there anonymously and never, ever post photos of myself or my family. If you want privacy, you have to preserve it for yourself and Upton didn't.

I will also put my hand up and say I shared his old name in the form of the hashtag #TheoUpton, which trended almost all day yesterday, because I wanted to make the point that his lawyer was attempting to shut the stable door after that horse had not only bolted but run the Grand National. It was nonsense of her to talk about redacting the final submission statements to avoid his being outed, since the fact that he claims a trans identity has been in the media for the whole of this year. Naomi Cunningham warned against the request because of the risk of the Streisand effect and she was absolutely right. It's not transphobia, but public anger towards a man who has behaved extremely badly towards a colleague because she wouldn't accept his male presence in her female single-sex changing-room.

It worked for me on the second try but it isn't worth the effort.

I haven't seen or heard anything relating to the tribunal that suggests this could be the case. Observers (either in person or in court) have been given clear instructions and risk contempt of court for breaking the actual rules. The case management papers provide a great deal of detail about the arguments made before and during the case timeline. The respondents, through their KC, have made strenuous representations that the tribunal has rejected.

Always blame the women, thems the rules

I've looked for the photos after reading this thread and he looks exactly the bloody same, albeit with less facial hair

It's possibly then someone who got a lot of heat for whatever they posted, and then deactivated, and came back on a locked account. So whatever they said can't have gone down well, even by twitter standards.

Why not tell people off on the platforms where it’s being done? There have been very few on here. It’s certainly not a regular occurrence.

"Going too low"

I heard about mumsnet when I was curious as to why gender critical views were particularly prominent in the UK. As an Australian, I wondered why such a difference given our cultural similarities & came upon research & articles that pointed to Mumsnet as a major source of advocacy for Gender Critical views.

Whilst I'm sympathetic to GC concerns I, like many am also concerned how those concerns have been weaponised to facilitate a widespread culture of transphobia.

My experience only after a week or so here is that the majority of topics are extremely civilised, charming, helpful & benign when it comes to hateful conduct but in the Feminism chats? Dear oh dear. To claim 'are we going too far' has well & truly spectacularly underestimated the extent of hate that has already been embedded under the guise of feminism of all things, a vehicle that has always rejected biological essentialism & bigotry.

So it's no surprise doxing has become an acceptable practice.

Sad to see the UK whose long admired history on the birth place of civics has become so debased over an issue that has been presented as an existential threat but can be managed.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2022/05/mumsnet-founder-justine-roberts-interview

Didn't he tell colleagues that he was trying to get his wife pregnant?
But sure, he genuinely thinks he's a woman 😂

Says the poster who calls women who disagree with them ‘cookers’ and other abusive things? Who posts men’s rights activism to defend their points on a feminist board? Who seems to have no concept of ‘civil’ discussion when it comes to a topic that they disagree on?

Mate, your posts on this board have been outstandingly hypocritical and this one is no different.

It's really very very stupid to ban Dr. Upton's deadname from legal documents. Along with reporting Glinner.

Naturally Dr. Upton's old name and photos are circulating, along with "Upton Girl" and Glinner on the front page. Everyone's read what Glinner shouldn't have said.

I've got to wonder if trans activists just enjoy self destruction, at this point.

I agree.
He’s behaved like an absolute bastard and I hope he suffers the backlash for years

"That you & your posse are offended by being referred to as 'cookers' is on your own actions of stalker like hateful irrational conspiratorial harmful comments where even mumsnet agrees given a multitude of your posts have been flagged as hateful conduct & removed."

This is projection again. I have not had posts deleted, I had one hidden because of a link I posted.

You have had posts deleted though. Abusive posts. MN does not 'flag' posts either, so no, posts are not flagged as 'hateful conduct'. It is like you are on a whole other site, or to use another of your favourite phrases 'you are making things up'.

'small & very vocal cohort of illiberal individuals who exploit the platform via mob bullying tactics & misrepresentation to push their extremist ideology.'

Such as yourself?

You have just described your own tactics on this board over the past week. The fact that such a large proportion of your 'evidence' is based on misrepresentations of the truth just add to how apt this statement is about yourself. You obviously consider yourself to be liberal. Yet you post Men's Right Activism content as support for your posts on a Feminism Board. It is rather telling that you believe MRA content is liberal content.

Why should women accept your posting tactics, which bullying is a very good descriptor for, on a feminism board?

I am not sure how many patients will not know of this doctor's behaviour by now. I cannot see that inspiring any patient confidence now or in the future.

'most people on this forum are well behaved & understand the necessity of civilised behaviour'

I would suggest you don't go to AIBU at all to post then.

AS shows the OP has only posted on two threads (both they have started) and has never posted on anything in womens rights before. Not contributed to any of the Sandi Peggie threads, nor any threads on trans vs womens issues. A seemingly new poster who claims they are 'peaked' yet has never contributed to any discussion before.

Yeah. Bad faith.

This is projection again. I have not had posts deleted, I had one hidden because of a link I posted.

Yes you have & you know it. Stop lying.

You have had posts deleted though. Abusive posts.

And yet the post you seem to find most egregious regarding 'cookers' (given that's all you reference) is still there & you & your posse stalk me on every comments thread to repost it. And here you are again doing the same thing rather than engage in the subject matter.

MN does not 'flag' posts either, so no, posts are not flagged as 'hateful conduct'. It is like you are on a whole other site, or to use another of your favourite phrases 'you are making things up"

I reported/flagged many comments from your hit squad under hateful conduct & personal abuse & they were removed. Do the math for the reason. Again you attempt to misrepresent wriggle out of responsibility by some ridiculous play on words.

Even when I make a concerted effort not to respond to the bombardment of misrepresentations of which is your MO, you still continue to stalk every thread repeating the same misrepresentations not once or twice but ad infimum no doubt as you feel threatened by an alternative point of view & wearing people down as a silencing tactic.

I regularly comment on many forums & never seen such pathologically disturbing behaviour.

I have not had posts deleted in my interactions with you. I don’t believe I have had any deleted recently.

oh. You have been reporting everyone? I see. Good to know.

When you post such as your post at 23:41, yes posters will respond. It is a public forum and regulars on this board will post on many active threads. If you, personally, wish to control where regular posters post and which posts they interact with, you might be very disappointed.

No one should have to not post on a thread because you have posted on it.

I would suggest you don’t take people responding to your posts as people ‘stalking’ you. You are posting here, you obviously want interaction otherwise why are you posting on public forum. To make the baseless accusations you have just made is DARVO in action.

”repeating the same misrepresentations not once or twice but ad infimum”

This is a laughable accusation considering the poor quality content you have posted to support your points. I don’t believe you even read some of them. Did you rely on AI to give you links? But then you post them over and over and don’t even go through them in an explanatory post. So, no. This accusation is only projection too.

No feminist who posts regularly on this board is threatened by an alternative view . Although, when that alternative view is delivered with derogation and belittling from the very first post on this board, and continues to spiral from there. why should women accept that bullying action from you?

And when that alternative view is poorly supported and not coherent or even consistent, why should people not point that out? After all, you make no attempt to hold back in your contempt of people who disagree with you.

If you don’t like people responding to your posts mirroring your own words, behaviour and tone, maybe posting on public forums which are not protected bubbles is not healthy for you.

If you don’t want people to interact with your opinions, I would reconsider posting them on a public accesses forum.

”pathologically disturbing behaviour.”

More projection. You are powering the entire Hoyts chain with that one.

Yes love. I hope you took on all the good advice you got yesterday. Today will be working on personality and empathy for you. . #helptheafflicted.

Is this Beth Upton of NHS changing room infamy?

He posted his own progress photos from original bloke, through bloke in a dress, to relatively attractive fake woman. I saw them on some blog or something of his. He posted them with commentary. The text suggested he's posted more of them elsewhere.

It's borderline crazy to blame Mumsnet feminists for what you see as a defamatory Twitter thread - we're wise to self-endangerment of this nature and tend to limit our risk-taking to issues of such importance that we consider the ends may justify the means. Some high-profile TiM's cosmetic appearance is not such an issue.

It's double crazy to treat this as a ghastly breach of rights/privacy/whatever when the vain twerp shares the photos himself. Look both ways before frothing!