Posting upton’s old photos and name on twitter

[Biggadyboom]

Look I’ve been in these discussions since before this forum existed. You don’t need to break it down for me. I peaked in 2018.

But the endless sharing of upton’s name accompanied by photos and horrible comments about him and his wife is not nice. It is totally is transphobia. It’s horrible.

I could kind of understand the point of it, if it was just the name being shared.

But equally the court has ruled that Upton has a right to privacy. I thought it was all about respecting court’s rulings?

but the sharing of private photos (presumably grabbed from social media) and especially their wedding photo with insults to both of them and speculation about their marriage is awful and will not help their be a resolution to this debate. It polarises it even more and is transphobia.

fair enough, don’t let Upton change the rules of the country and workplace based on personal beliefs . But that doesn’t involve posting personal information and photos , insults and horrible speculation.

or are we just going low now?

She stated up front that she name changes regularly.

@Howseitgoin

Your research is focused on ignoring the rape and sexual assault of women when trying to sell the idea of how men should be allowed to be given acccess to womans spaces......

You are 4+N from other threads.

Dear Reader
this poster has already said 4 rapes or sexual assaults of women and/or girls are fine if it gets men into womens single sex spaces.
Eg
Isolated instances don't qualify as significant statistical data.

This is how it will go

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO

DARVO (an acronym for "
• Deny,
• Attack,
• Reverse
• Victim and
• Offender")
is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior.Some researchers indicate that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.

The trend
Personal abuse and
Refusing to use the quote button and
Personal abuse is directed at all posters and
Copy paste selected text and
Personal abuse is directed at a specific poster.

The theme
• Some men must be allowed into womens single sex spaces [WSSS]

(This on a thread about a "sucessful" example of how that turned out)

• Look how violent men can be well except for the men who will be harmed therefore you must agree to allow some men into WSSS.

• You cant say that women may/ will face extra harm from men when they loose their WSSS because @Howseitgoin will say that the men in the WSSS are not men.

(Funny how the NHS Fife had an outbreak of that and hire staff who lack the rudimentary understanding of human biology)

• then will come the reply to requests to prove that women benefit from not having WSSS and not face harm from men in the new Mixed Sex Space "Isolated instances don't qualify as significant statistical data."

• then some badly cobbled together statistical data on how this group of men may experience "Isolated instances" which per @Howseitgoin "don't qualify as significant statistical data"

All this with personal abuse directed at posters and MN posters.

So @Howseitgoin what is your N?

How many women should face abuse and harm before women are not in your words

"Isolated instances don't qualify as significant statistical data." to reach your goal?

Could be true.

But the scoldng nature of the first post and peaking dont track.

And the peaking in 2018 and thinking a medical doctor working in an ED under supervision who only has a rudimentary understanding of human biology dont track.

And the whole tone police vibe of it must ne MNs who are posting on X posts dont track

And the flounse and reflounsed dont track

👋 @Biggadyboom

"I would suggest you don’t take people responding to your posts as people ‘stalking’ you. You are posting here, you obviously want interaction otherwise why are you posting on public forum. To make the baseless accusations you have just made is DARVO in action."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

And I’m The King

"Yes love. I hope you took on all the good advice you got yesterday. Today will be working on personality and empathy for you. . #helptheafflicted."

I rest my case.

"Your research is focused on ignoring the rape and sexual assault of women when trying to sell the idea of how men should be allowed to be given acccess to womans spaces......"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Now now. Let’s use our words with kindness and intentionality today. Before replying to what seems to you like an unjustified criticism of your lack of intelligence and character, pause. Consider the other person may have good reason for their views and reflect on why they may have that perception of you. Remember, how we see ourselves is not how others see us.

Define ‘hateful’.

I'm not sure that you really understand what a Motte or indeed a Bailey even are.

Posting on forums results in people posing back. It's literally how they work.

i think in these instances don’t people say things like penguin biollards, cube of shit, penis beaker? Joined in 2008 when first pregnant, spent first few years on pregnancy/birth forums and relationships. Then AIBU and noticed this issue there before these boards had been separated out. Coincided with a close friend going trans and freaking out . Have followed the issue ever since.

anyway whatever.

This thread is going to be spamed
So Have a kitten (or three)

See @Howseitgoin this is kindness and empathy at work. I think it’s so nice of @AnSolas to Share her kittens. Dont you?

"Define ‘hateful’."

Abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, sex, gender or similar grounds.

How did you get on telling the people on X how norty they have been?

You do realise the people you are talking about have been accused of being Nazis for about a decade, so being accused of literally anything else is, well, going to be almost a compliment.

So like when the TRA issue death threats, rape threats and violence to women, they’re being hateful. Gotcha. So you do see why women won’t let men into their single sex spaces. I knew we’d get there. Well done. Have a sticker ⭐️

Cool.

It’s not possible to change sex
A woman is an adult human female
Men are not adult human females
Men do not belong in women’s spaces.

That's not transphobia

I’m not on twitter. Have to get people to post screenshots.

I have no sympathy for a man who tried to are other women undress in front of him, and get one of them disciplined for refusing.

If you harass someone in the way he has, it’s very unreasonable to expect kid glove treatment in return. His lawyer dragged SP’s lesbian daughter and husband into court, and accused her of racism. And you don’t like it when someone posts a photo of him and his wife? Pot, Kettle.

If this were AIBU….
There’ a nurse at work who doesn’t like me. She avoids changing in the same place as me. She says it’s because I’m a man and really big and it makes her uncomfortable. #Mean. She asked me to leave the changing room because she was dealing with a menstrual flood. I’ve got loads of notes about other times she’s been mean to me- #SadTimes. Her daughter’s a lesbian and she doesn’t hate Trump. #Weird.

AIBU to get her disciplined?

If you have been here that long you had to have some idea of how your first post would be seen. You came to MN and blamed MN for posts on X. You could have just said you seen the nasty posts and did not agree leaving the tarNfeather attitude on X and asked if other had a viewpoint on it.

If you peaked and hold the belief that a medical doctor employed by the NHS lacks a rudimentary understanding of human biology
a) what are you doing about it?
b) what would you suggest others do about it?

So if people had been posting the same stuff about someone who was not trans would you be coming here scolding us for that too? It’s not transphobia, it’s justified outrage at a man bullying women into undressing in front of him. Would you be ok if a non trans male did the same thing? If not, why not?

May not be a kitten lover?
Now why I was offered this gif for Oz🤷‍♀️

I'm not sure that you really understand what a Motte or indeed a Bailey even are.
Posting on forums results in people posing back. It's literally how they work.

Um, I'm not sure that you really understand how Motte Bailey relates to this discussion.

Poster retreats to only ever advancing benign relevant on topic comments as if that's all they do. When they also engage in comments that are contrary to the Talk Guidelines.

And yes, Talk Guidelines are a necessary boundary to forums. It's literally how they work.

You yourself have had posts deleted, which means...you are also posting comments contrary to the Talk Guidelines.

Abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, sex, gender or similar grounds.
So like when the TRA issue death threats, rape threats and violence to women, they’re being hateful. Gotcha. So you do see why women won’t let men into their single sex spaces. I knew we’d get there. Well done. Have a sticker ⭐️

Lol, you inadvertently just expressed a hate speech generalisation against men…😂