Minneapolis school shooter

[SouthernNorthernLass]

I had my suspicions when CNN kept referring to the shooter as ‘they’ and said as much to DH.

Lo and behold, a crossdressing man called ‘Robin’ (formerly Robert) Westman.

It never happens

and the media referring to him as her. This isn’t the crime of a woman. I wonder if the mental health of this person was explored fully when they were being affirmed and having name changes? Those poor poor families. Those poor poor children. A tragedy.

I saw the video he made before the shooting. He seemed like the typical gun-obsessed, self-absorbed, self-aggrandizing, hate-filled incel male. I bet the blame gets shifted onto the church, GC women and the right for not affirming his gender.

Another senseless shooting. Poor children.

The BBC is referring to the male killer as he/him/gunman.

Minneapolis school shooting: What we know - BBC News

And yet they still say it never happens.

Those poor children, victims to a mental illness fueled ideology.

It is really frightening, this is at least the second time a trans shooter targeted Christian schoolkids? I’m interested to hear where he got those weapons.

Fuck. It was distressing enough seeing a school shooting in a Catholic Church in the USA.

There's a fair amount of anti- Catholicism in transgender community. When are they going to condemn such hate? It must play some role.

For those wondering if it's been verified they are trans, there's a substantial mix of pronouns used across the press.

The Times has mentioned it.

www.thetimes.com/article/01a0855a-7184-4220-9d6a-6523dc9eaf1f?shareToken=5e32a613e1846559baa6e8df5abc8d95

The video in this thread included a list at 9 mins approx. I have not checked that the list is correct or complete.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5399914-minnesota-mass-shooting-suspect-tran-activist

Now it's come out that he's trans will the BBC respect his pronouns?

What a cruel, senseless crime. Makes me hope there is a hell.

Deleted wrong thread.

Since my post (21:11), the BBC has removed pronouns when referring to the killer.

'Attacker' gender 😠

Other messages he had written on the guns:

• "Israel must fall,"
• "Burn Israel"
• "6 million wasn't enough."
• "Destroy HIAS (originally a Jewish resettlement org for refugees)
• "Mashallah" (God's will in Arabic)

I hope people realise that antisemitism doesn’t stop at Jews and never has. This is absolutely heartbreaking.

To be fair there's all sorts of stuff written by this lunatic to the point that I think it can only be interpreted as their mental state being a complete mess.
Yes what you quoted is very anti-semitic, but I could easily believe they were just spouting "current left wing thing" without knowing anything about it. Garbage in, garbage out.
For example one of the things they wrote was a Douglas Adams quote from The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy series. "so long and thanks for all the fish".
I don't know how that could possibly be taken as being related to murdering people, but it got quoted. There seems to be a lot of young people memes in what they wrote.
I don't want to dismiss or excuse the anti-semitism, but when you look at the wider picture I think this idiot had a lot of serious mental issues. They needed professional help not affirmation.
No one who has written a manifesto, or has a favourite school shooting, should be considered of sound mind. They should be supervised at all times, even when they are eating ice cream and making happy noises.

It's a mental health crisis. But it won't be mentioned or dissected by the likes of the BBC. It's why I think some of these mentally unwell people should be referred to Prevent in the UK. But we all know they won't be.

@lechiffre55 why do you say they? It was a he. A man went into a school & murdered children, he did it.

The BBC website call him the suspect, the attacker, the writer…. and do not mention pronouns at all. Obviously deliberate. Piss poor reporting.

Yes, I read 'he' on the BBC earlier too. That's what their attention is on: editing pronouns. Poor children.

Yeah you are right. A bit overwhelmend right now.
If it makes you happy HE is at the centre of tHEy which seems very appropriate because the HEs always put themselves in the centre of things.

yes you make some good points, I just wanted to include it in the conversation.

The BBC News at 10 report referred to the ‘gunman’ and ‘he’ all the way through. If I hadn’t known about the trans element from another news source I wouldn’t have got it from the BBC. It makes me so irritated because I really want to be able to trust the BBC, with everything else on the internet being so unreliable now.

The Catholic church has been unwaveringly anti-gender ideology, unlike some other churches.

The Vatican's 2024 declaration Dignitas Infinita specifically rejected gender ideology and transgenderism:
the body participates in that dignity as it is endowed with personal meanings, particularly in its sexed condition....we are called to protect our humanity, and this means, in the first place, accepting it and respecting it as it was created.*

It places transgenderism in the same philosophical category as what it sees as other 'assaults on the dignity of the individual human being from the moment of conception' - including familiar issues like abortion, suicide and euthanasia, but also human trafficking, sexual abuse, violence against women, and surrogacy.

So that would make Catholic institutions, like this school, an clear target for violent TRAs.

*NB I'm quoting this, not approving it!

The Mayor of Minneapolis knows who the real victims are: https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1960797912960549031

No it doesn’t. The BBC refers to the shooter’s name. Uses no pronouns at all.