Minneapolis school shooter

[SouthernNorthernLass]

I had my suspicions when CNN kept referring to the shooter as ‘they’ and said as much to DH.

Lo and behold, a crossdressing man called ‘Robin’ (formerly Robert) Westman.

Mail Online, the biggest news site in the World, is using she in every article.
I think it's to enrage their readers to gain clicks and it's working.

They often do that IME.

That most mass shooters have mental health issues - something which, by definition, I don't think any rational person can argue with - is not the question though, is it?

Your assertion that, since most mass shooters have MH issues, any group or individual you personally believe to have MH issues must therefore be a potential mass shooter is logically fallacious at best and an intentional attempt to subvert the narrative at worst.

For the record, some people who identify as trans may have MH issues, but it does not follow that all trans people do; however much you desperately want them to in order to provide you with justification for your delusion.

It always does. The hard of thinking exist on a diet of clickbait and impotent rage. Such people are phenomenally easy to manipulate; the Daily Heil knows this well.

Bbc still using She on their website

Complaint going in!

So is the use of the word "she" by the DM manipulation?

You are the person inferring that my comment can be extrapolated to ‘any group or individual … [with] MH issues must therefore be a potential mass shooter’, which is actually a logical fallacy on your part. Not mine.

I am simply stating that denying that those with trans identity issues are persons with MH issues means that they are afforded legal and social privileges - such as gun ownership - that other persons with MH issues are not. This is a safeguarding risk. The same kind of safeguarding risk that predicates women having single sex spaces - we KNOW that not ALL men are sexually violent but on the basis that we cannot tell by looking at them which men are and which men are not, the law and safeguarding guidelines excludes all men.

The same applies to people with MH issues. We don’t know which ones are likely to carry out mass shootings or terrorist attacks, so you need to bar all persons with MH issues (and this includes those with trans related MH issues because they are mentally ill). In the UK and most countries we have chosen to ban gun ownership in the general population as it avoids this issue altogether, but given the US obsession with their second amendment rights, the only logical, sensible, legal step to prevent tragedies such as this is to control WHO has access to guns. It is ideologically driven disingenuousness NOT to include those who have GD or other gender related MH issues within the category of ‘illegible’ for gun licences on MH grounds.

On the assumption that question is actually serious then I'd say the fact you've responded in the way you have, and considering the reasoning behind your compulsion to do so, rather provides the answer.

Apparently there is a subreddit called transguns with 19k members. Don’t use Reddit but is it normal to have subreddits for particular groups purely associated with weapons.

Your response is enlightening, just not in the way you imagine.

Diamond82 · Yesterday 21:45

"Mashallah" (God's will in Arabic)

You're thinking of insh'Allah, mash Allah loosely translates as "bless her/his little heart."

Has anyone noticed that the murderer had a Habsburg Jaw? I wonder if he's the product of inbreeding, it would certainly shed light on his suspected mental health problems.

@VoulezVouz I wrote about the Catholic / Church angle because I've also been reading trans rights activists, both formal and informal and I'm concerned with anti- Church rhetoric and general condoning of violent language of TRAs.

It's not because of this case but actual hate speech can lead to violence and why I posted. There's also been others of trans targeting churches and related institutions.

Someone seemed to be assuming we are all white. I'm fed up of popping up and saying I'm mixed race. In this case it is particularly egregious because my family left a country because of ethnic / religious violence.

The delusion is yours. The TRA “community” is known for wishing violence on other people. Check it out anywhere where they feel “safe” in these views.

www.terfisaslur.com

https://medium.com/@rebeccarc/j-k-rowling-and-the-trans-activists-a-story-in-screenshots-78e01dca68d

I've done the same. All the "they" and "them" and referring to him by surname to avoid saying the thing we know they want to avoid is predictable ol' BBC. But "she"? No, absolutely not, they can fuck right off with that.

He’s a violent man, and violent men are drawn to this extremist ideology.

oh ffs

Read the BBC link a few posts above.
He was ‘trans’ even as a minor.

@SinnerBoy he has the long face common in tall men, I wouldn't be surprised if he was a lanky six foot or more. He'd look ridiculous trying to pass as a woman. Something he was probably aware of.

I'd bet every doubletake, every misgendering, every perceived slight was worried like a dog with bone. Possibly dissected on line with his community who would have fed his narcissistic sense of victimhood.

That is a scary list.

To be fair, they also refer to ‘her’ as a ‘lunatic transgender assassin’ which is pretty accurate.

In one on line version they avoid using any pronoun but you could say they ‘outsource’ the truth:

Westman's name was legally changed from Robert to Robin in 2020, Minnesota court records show. In the application the judge wrote: "Minor child identifies as a female and wants her name to reflect that identification."

Speaking at a press conference on Wednesday, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey pushed back against hatred directed towards the transgender community in the wake of the attack.

In their own updates, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Westman was a "man, claiming to be transgender", and in his post on X, FBI Director Kash Patel referred to Westman as "a male".

My DH also read somewhere that he was referred to as "the person" 🙄

And is often autism in disguise. Autism which can make a person feel outcast or that they are not fitting in hence often thinking they might be ‘trans’, and also making them susceptible to bad influences through on line groups who seem like friends.