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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Minneapolis school shooter

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SouthernNorthernLass · 27/08/2025 20:58

I had my suspicions when CNN kept referring to the shooter as ‘they’ and said as much to DH.

Lo and behold, a crossdressing man called ‘Robin’ (formerly Robert) Westman.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 15/09/2025 09:04

DeanElderberry · 15/09/2025 08:53

We had the one with the magic country-of-residence-detecting hat a week or so back who kept calling people 'honey' so it is either a new technique for being annoying or a form of tourettes. I think I know which.

I see it as being very camp, myself.

Helleofabore · 15/09/2025 09:06

I see we have already had the swivel from humans can change sex because ‘clownfish’ to some countries allow a legal fiction.

Human beings cannot change sex in material reality though.

Are we about to get all the dictionary links and links about fallacies posted ?

Merrymouse · 15/09/2025 09:15

This is why data on sex is important:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/04/health/female-shooters-youtube/index.html

"The FBI examined active shooter incidents, defined as “an individual engaging in killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area” in the United States. Nine of the 220 incidents that had been identified by the FBI (about 4%) had female shooters, according to the FBI list from 2000 to 2016."

I note that this data relates to 'active shooter incidents', which is a far smaller number than 'mass shooting incidents', but I think would include the Minnesota shooting discussed on this thread.

Obviously this is old data, but one additional female increases the number by more than 10%.

Whether or not the Minnesota shooter's trans identity is relevant (or whether he even had a trans identity) is for the FBI to consider, not me - but he doesn't seem to differ much from the common profile of troubled young man.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2025 09:51

YourLemonTiger · 15/09/2025 08:58

Let me try and put the concept of statistics in language you might understand.

Imagine a terrible fatal illness. It's reported this illness killed 50% of people over 80. Everyone over 80 panics.

What isn't reported is that there are only 8 people over 80 so it has killed 4 of them.
What isn't reported is that 100 people 40-50 died but as there are 1000 of them the illness only kills 10% so it looks less percentage wise, but numbers wise more have died.

My point being basic numbers and statistics can show very different things using the same data depending on how it's presented.

That's the point was making re: looking at trans person head of population and per shooters rather than just numbers.

Very nice, clear explanation.

lcakethereforeIam · 15/09/2025 09:51

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 07:54

No dear if it was all scientists and medics would shred with you. But they to not.

in some countries they are recognised medically and by law as people of the opposite sex.

That is a fact ,

'recognised medically'!

So a young TiM who told his Doctor that he was in labour would be treated exactly the same as a woman who made the same claim? I hope the Doctor realised he was delusional before his appendix exploded.

Although all those tw not having their prostates checked? Well that's an ongoing scandal.

Btw, proof reading is your friend 😃

OldCrone · 15/09/2025 09:59

lcakethereforeIam · 15/09/2025 09:51

'recognised medically'!

So a young TiM who told his Doctor that he was in labour would be treated exactly the same as a woman who made the same claim? I hope the Doctor realised he was delusional before his appendix exploded.

Although all those tw not having their prostates checked? Well that's an ongoing scandal.

Btw, proof reading is your friend 😃

There was a case of a TIF, who was so convincing as a man that when she went to hospital with abdominal pain, they didn't check if she was pregnant. By the time they figured out that her pain was due to her pregnancy, the baby had died.

SinnerBoy · 15/09/2025 10:00

Crazytimes41

im ousting facts.

You certainly are, in favour of propaganda.

lcakethereforeIam · 15/09/2025 10:09

OldCrone · 15/09/2025 09:59

There was a case of a TIF, who was so convincing as a man that when she went to hospital with abdominal pain, they didn't check if she was pregnant. By the time they figured out that her pain was due to her pregnancy, the baby had died.

I remember that. She nearly died herself. I hope the snafu happened because the medics genuinely thought she was male, not because they knew she was female but believed wrong-sex hormones and surgery had actually changed her sex.

BleinhamOrange · 15/09/2025 10:14

Crazytimes41 · 15/09/2025 08:41

What on earth are you talking about dear?

the vast majority of mass shootings whether they be school or in general are carried out by cis men not trans people.

are you aware of this dear? 😂🤡😂🤡

We are not talking about gangland shootings though, we are talking about school shootings of which there were eight over the last year. So at least 12.5% of school shootings this year were carried out by a trans-identified individual.

DeanElderberry · 15/09/2025 12:40

The horrific mindset of someone whose reaction to the murder of two children and the harming of more than a dozen others is to repeatedly post clown faces is very revealing - like the manic amusement at the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

There is something seriously wrong with a significant number of people.

ArabellaSaurus · 15/09/2025 13:04

DeanElderberry · 15/09/2025 12:40

The horrific mindset of someone whose reaction to the murder of two children and the harming of more than a dozen others is to repeatedly post clown faces is very revealing - like the manic amusement at the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

There is something seriously wrong with a significant number of people.

Yes. It's all game-playing to some people.

lcakethereforeIam · 15/09/2025 21:25

Came across this Andy Ngo piece about the murderers mother

Secrets inside the Westman Family: Has Mary Westman Been Wrongly Vilified? https://share.google/skeI522EtZgx4D0iW

It appears the folx who told her 'would you rather have a living daughter or a dead son?' I hope they can't face themselves in the mirror.

Secrets inside the Westman Family: Has Mary Westman Been Wrongly Vilified?

Mary Grace Westman has been demonized for her son’s transition and subsequent violent extremism. But new information reveals the public may have been wrong

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/secrets-inside-the-westman-family

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