We must arm ourselves, say trans activists

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Why? Why do they need weapons? 🤔

We must arm ourselves, say trans activists
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/9f4637e9f24e8b09

trouble is, coming to this battle of wits they need to arm themselves with sharp minds, stamina, wide reading, lived experience, mental toughness, honesty, and a sense of humour.

Some of which they seem deficient in, and some, notably honesty, which can't be used by them.

They are already armed with penis'. What is a more dangerous weapon than that?!

Men really are the worst.

Transcels are going to transcel.

We've said for many years about what happens next.

The worst thing you can say to an abusive man is "no". An abusive man's response to "no" is to escalate. The most dangerous time for an abused woman is when she tries to leave the abusive relationship.

There are also social issues when cults collapse which can manifest as abuse and violence.

As such the thought process of many here has always been that when this ideology imploded - as it was always doom to because it's authoritarianism based on lies which are only sustainable to a point - that there was a likelihood of it becoming messy and significant risk to women.

The behaviour we have seen from some quarters matches the government descriptions of extremism. I suspect that at some point we will see some steps to deal with problems in line with some of the militant pro Palestinian groups and pro Green groups because a small minority of transactivists will cross a line. In addition to that I think we will see an uptick in numerous actions taken out against individuals for threats and harassment if not worse.

It's really depressing and will not help the interests of those who ultimately end up detransitioning.

What a mistake it was to declassify being trans as a mental health disorder.

the destranitioned man who posted the study said on Twitter that his own anecdotal experience was very much as described.

The violence snd violent threats come mainly from males. If female TRAs are also making threats of violence, then we will also condemn that. We're not ignoring the violent women, we just haven't seen any evidence that they exist in similar numbers to violent males.

That's not erasure. Women are very aware that there are countless women signed up to trans ideology. The Fife tribunal shows some of them in their toxic glory.

The reason for so many girls and young women being present is that the powerful men leading this movement have deliberately targeted the young - with girls being very vulnerable to social contagion. They are the victims of this and I've no doubt they were there in their thousands.

There's so much compassion for them on here and the shameful treatment of them by so many trusted adults who should have been safeguarding them. But until they're able to remove themselves from the toxic organisations promoting sex change as a positive for the young, we can only stand by and watch.

It's fascinating to look at the background of females who transition and to note the levels of sexual abuse (aka as male violence) and the levels of discomfort with being puberty (and unwanted sexual attention) and the lack of willingness to admit to being a lesbian (women who like other women serve no purpose in a world where they offer nothing to males) and the modern demands put on women sexually (driven by porn addled men) and that's before you examine the gap between how women and men are treated with respect. And that's without considering self serving issues about fitting in with a crowd and how women are much more susceptible to it.

The motivations of males and females who either transition or support transactivism are curiously very different. They are not the same.

We can have a closer look at this if you really want, but actually it comes back to the same underlying driving forces that are fuelling the whole men's rights movement and the culture of fear that it's created and it uses to control.

So firstly, the biologically female people at the protest were not even slightly limited to trans men.

Women were also there in their thousands - and across all age groups.

Funny you say that since you have no idea who had produced those two signs - out of tens of thousands.

But how do you know they were biologically female? Did you test their chromosomes? Are you saying there is a way to spot females as opposed to males with a trans identity? What if they were transwomen? Or transmen? Are you saying transmen are not men? You’re sounding very transphobic to be honest.

Is it only men who become trans women who are wielding the weapons? What about the women who become trans men?

As MrsO said, we know there are many female people who do not have transgender identities who are supportive. Hence she pointed out the NHS Fife witnesses.

The point is, what of it? What point do you think is relevant that female people were there?

We know they are there. I have been to events where they have been there too, fully supporting intimidation of women they disagree with. And when you ask them what they think they are protesting, they tell you what they think you believe that has not even a passing resemblance of the truth. But they are there, joining in the intimidation of women none the less.

Annual? The signs I'm posting now are from April.

Every 'trans rights' (in reality anti women) event or protest has these signs inciting violence against women.

At women's rights events, there are no such equivalent signs.

Why do you think that is?

As @Annoyedone has pointed out upthread (repeated below as it's so good) - as it's allegedly impossible to spot the difference between men, women and trans folx it's a surprise to see posters who regularly spout this nonsense suddenly accurately sexing all the people marching.

Of course, those of thus who understand facts, reality and know that sex is binary would generally agree with their assessment. But we're just pointing out their wild incoherence in trying to make a point about "erasure" 😁:

"But how do you know they were biologically female? Did you test their chromosomes? Are you saying there is a way to spot females as opposed to males with a trans identity? What if they were transwomen? Or transmen? Are you saying transmen are not men? You’re sounding very transphobic to be honest".

I know that probably sounded like a very clever gotcha in your head.

What?

Women were choosing to march beside the messages.

The organisers. of whom some are sure to be women, were not getting the police involved to remove the signs under public order offences

So choosing to support the VAWaG message and

And the MRA element of TRA is clearly a core element of the ideology eg men demanding access to womens single sex spaces or in womens sport etc. Recognising the fact that some women support MRA / TRA on that and other ideology is not erasure.

Has there ever been a political cause anywhere of which no women at all supported the ideology?

The point is that all of the implications that this was a protest of 100,000 men are just flat out wrong.

Where did anyone say this was just men?

It's weird that you think in a march of 100,000 people that most women will have seen those two specific signs. I certainly didn't until I saw them very predictably lead the right wing media coverage (while the thousands of other signs were ignored).

No. It's weird that you think that it's fine that, in a crowd of 100,000 people, no-one asked for those signs to be removed. In fact the signs seem to have been quite prominently displayed.

Once again "if that's what they're happy proudly saying in public, one wonders what they say in private" springs to mind.

Two signs. Uh huh.

https://x.com/MrMennoTweets/status/1949533338496008279

And apparently just the signs calling for violence against JKR would need a thread of its own.

Violent threats against women at these events are a feature. Not a bug.

Tbf women wont get firearms licence issued on the basis of trans rights either

Yes, giving weapons to a bunch of violent angry men women. what could possibly go wrong?

And while drugs may make the woman more agressive she will have been socialised not to be violent to a much higher degree than her male counterpart.

Are you aware of any violent trans men?

Imagine saying that or similar, under oath, in a court room, as a professional employee of a UK body charged with public health duties?