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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

We must arm ourselves, say trans activists

157 replies

TonTonMacoute · 27/07/2025 18:37

Why? Why do they need weapons? 🤔

We must arm ourselves, say trans activists
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/9f4637e9f24e8b09

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DrBlackbird · 27/07/2025 21:31

endofthelinefinally · 27/07/2025 21:20

Sadiq Khan really scares me.

So frustrating that’s what plain to see is determinedly ignored by those In positions of authority so they can maintain their liberal credentials.

Pleasealexa · 27/07/2025 21:51

I hope this is flagged to Prevent or other anti terror agency, they are extremist threatening violence after a legal ruling. Even if it's "only" a few they need to be investigated as we would with any other extreme group threatening violence.

All the MPs who emboldened TRAs need to look hard in the mirror (Mr Lammy et al).

AnSolas · 27/07/2025 22:08

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 27/07/2025 19:12

I mean, they made a comment about how lesbians are attracted to other women, not men with gender recognition certificates. That was definitely outside the scope of the question!

Not if you have to track the term "sex" through the Act.
The word can mean something different in section 7 and 12

7Gender reassignment
(1)A person has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment if the person
• is proposing to undergo,
• is undergoing or
• has undergone a process (or part of a process) for the purpose of reassigning the
person's sex
by changing physiological or other attributes of sex.

12 Sexual orientation
(1)Sexual orientation means a person's sexual orientation towards—
(a)persons of the same sex,
(b)persons of the opposite sex, or
(c)persons of either sex.
(2)In relation to the protected characteristic of sexual orientation—
(a)a reference to a person who has a particular protected characteristic is a reference to a person who is of a particular sexual orientation;
(b)a reference to persons who share a protected characteristic is a reference to persons who are of the same sexual orientation.

Sex
In relation to the protected characteristic of sex—
(a)a reference to a person who has a particular protected characteristic is a reference
● to a man or
● to a woman;
(b)a reference to persons who share a protected characteristic is a reference to persons of the same sex

NameChangedOfc · 27/07/2025 22:14

(Beta) males threatening violence if their will is not obeyed. Nothing new under the sun, I'm afraid.

Charabanc · 27/07/2025 22:16

Oh, was this on their pretendy "100,000" people march? If they can believe they can change sex, then they can believe there were 100,000 people on that march.

I know the Telegraph has its agenda, but let's not all get upset over one testerical sign.

Nanalisa60 · 27/07/2025 22:19

Because they are very angry men, who are pretending!! And are very pissed off that other people (mostly women) won’t play there pretending game.

GailBlancheViola · 27/07/2025 22:24

PlanetJanette · 27/07/2025 20:26

The annual thread picking out one placard out of tens of thousands and being presented as representative of a protest of 100,000 people took a bit longer than I’d have expected.

As has the erasure of the thousands of biologically female people - cisgender women, trans men and non binary people - who marched yesterday.

Strange how when women meet to discuss their rights there are NEVER any signs like that, nor rhetoric.

Only ONE side has form for this and that is the one you are so desperate to be on.

EasternStandard · 27/07/2025 22:31

Katkins17 · 27/07/2025 21:09

Because they’re men, and inherently violent, and we’re saying No and they hate it when women do that.

But the powers that be will still be sycophantically moping their brow and calling the poor dears vulnerable!’

Yes men really dislike it when women say no. Anger can be the reaction. Some women also think their anger is ok.

HelenaWaiting · 27/07/2025 22:38

Because for many Trans Rights Activists (if you ask me, Trans Wrongs Activists, acronym TWATS) it has always just been an excuse to bully, belittle and abuse women.

GailBlancheViola · 27/07/2025 22:42

HelenaWaiting · 27/07/2025 22:38

Because for many Trans Rights Activists (if you ask me, Trans Wrongs Activists, acronym TWATS) it has always just been an excuse to bully, belittle and abuse women.

Amen to that.

PeonyPatch · 27/07/2025 22:50

Why do they need weapons and what weapons are they referring to?

TheKeatingFive · 27/07/2025 22:52

PlanetJanette · 27/07/2025 20:26

The annual thread picking out one placard out of tens of thousands and being presented as representative of a protest of 100,000 people took a bit longer than I’d have expected.

As has the erasure of the thousands of biologically female people - cisgender women, trans men and non binary people - who marched yesterday.

Erasure? Gosh, what happened? Did they all just disappear in a puff of smoke?

Annoyedone · 27/07/2025 23:00

TheKeatingFive · 27/07/2025 22:52

Erasure? Gosh, what happened? Did they all just disappear in a puff of smoke?

Didn’t they split up and the lead singer went solo?

TheKeatingFive · 27/07/2025 23:02

Annoyedone · 27/07/2025 23:00

Didn’t they split up and the lead singer went solo?

😂

Annoyedone · 27/07/2025 23:03

TheKeatingFive · 27/07/2025 23:02

😂

I’ll get my coat lol

Enough4me · 27/07/2025 23:11

No one who is correctly sexed is erased and they don't need a weapon as correctly seeing someone's sex isn't an attack.
Conversely, lying to someone about their sex is a lie and is harmful as it doesn't help them to get a grip on reality.

JellySaurus · 27/07/2025 23:14

MarvellousMonsters · 27/07/2025 18:56

““The message was clear: we will not be erased. Our existence is natural, historic and enduring.
You can try to take away our rights, but you will never remove us from society”

is anyone trying to erase (I always feel this is used as a euphemism for execution) or remove any rights from anyone?? This statements seem deliberately dramatic and inflammatory.

DARVO

Their tactic hasn't worked on us, so they're accusing us of applying it to them.

Anyone have a receipt for Shon Faye's sweet address to women? Shon who so desperately wants to be a woman, but the only way he can do that is to erase women because he can never actually be one.

We must arm ourselves, say trans activists
CorvusPurpureus · 27/07/2025 23:15

Oddly, PJ seems to be grouping '...women, transmen and non binary' together as a group of biological females.

If only we had a word for them...

TerminalMoraine · 27/07/2025 23:21

PonyPatter44 · 27/07/2025 21:00

Nicholas Prosper made a fake shotgun licence in order to buy the weapon he then used to murder his family, including his mother and 13 year old sister. While I generally laugh at the sad sack TRAs, I actually think that some of them do pose a potential genuine risk, and im quite concerned by it.

IIRC he also planned to rape his 13 year old sister but his mum woke up before he had the chance to.

Annoyedone · 28/07/2025 05:42

CorvusPurpureus · 27/07/2025 23:15

Oddly, PJ seems to be grouping '...women, transmen and non binary' together as a group of biological females.

If only we had a word for them...

But hold on! I’d @PlanetJanette saying non those binary people are female ans so are transmen!? How transphobic!! Tut tut

ByatchTrollFromHell · 28/07/2025 07:06

As is traditional, I thought I'd reclaim the insult in a MN username. But it's actually disallowed by MN.

On the subject of how seriously to take the threats - I'll just note once again that 'vulnerable' does not equate to harmless.

Many of these people are evidently extremists, delusional, and absolutely raging that women won't do as they're told. They have threatened, attacked, and terrorised women in the past. Yes, they should be taken seriously.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/07/2025 08:10

EmpressaurusKitty · 27/07/2025 21:04

Or the protest outside FiLiA in Portsmouth, in a busy central square. I don’t think there was any violence, to be fair.

But they did drown out the women inside who were talking about their experiences of being trafficked for sex.

They walked round carrying Amnesty-branded placards reading I AM WHO I SAY I AM, a message which surely goes against all safeguarding principles (Jimmy Savile, Wayne Couzens & Stephen Ireland are just three examples of men who wanted people to believe that they were who they said they were).

And they chalked obscene drawings & phrases in an area that children were passing through.

Are we supposed to ignore that too?

This.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 28/07/2025 08:13

MarvellousMonsters · 27/07/2025 18:56

““The message was clear: we will not be erased. Our existence is natural, historic and enduring.
You can try to take away our rights, but you will never remove us from society”

is anyone trying to erase (I always feel this is used as a euphemism for execution) or remove any rights from anyone?? This statements seem deliberately dramatic and inflammatory.

Maybe they perceive silence as erasure. They don’t want to quietly go about their business using third space rest rooms and taking part in third space sports. It’s the need for validation and more importantly attention that’s the key aim and if that can’t happen peacefully it can definitely happen aggressively.

PlanetJanette · 28/07/2025 08:22

The erasure is in the constant pretence here that trans protests are all about biologically male people.

Utter nonsense of course - ignoring the tens of thousands of biologically female people at the protest.